What Kind Of Light Is Better?

[Alero04]

Oki...I have Eurolights and i like em fine and stuff...but in ur guys opinions...what is better for headlights? <_< i love the bright white/blue effect that the Eurolights give me. But is there anything out there that is better? I dont care money wise, I just want to have really nice looking lights at night :)
let me kno?! im just a girl who doesnt know anything about cars lol!! slowwwwwly learning :D

[johny_boy32]

Try Silvania SilverStars...they are highly recommended on this site from everyone that has them including myself. The bulb #'s are 9005 for hi-beams and 9006 for low-beams. You can buy them online at pfyc.com or at a local target. I hope that helps.

[Alero04]

see i was told by the car freaks around here that that brand sucks! I was told that EuroLights were the best....
cuz I want the best lights. I dont care how much they cost

[FormulaNERD]

haha, you must be talking to the ricers.... eurolights suck, and eventually they'll fry your headlight harness.

[Travis99Alero]

Originally posted by Alero04@Feb 10 2005, 09:45 AM
see i was told by the car freaks around here that that brand sucks! I was told that EuroLights were the best....
cuz I want the best lights. I dont care how much they cost
then the car freaks in your area are jackasses. silverstars are the best you're gonna find without going to HID's.

[Oldsman]

i would do the HID conversion.

[Crolero]

Yea get the silverstars, ive got the preimiums they are about the same as the silverstars but not as expensive. but if you've got the cash, go HID.

[Super White Alero]

Eurolights are decents but they will eventually fire your wiring harness, But if that no biggy then go with Eurolight but make sure they are by EuroEffect, the other seem to fire your harness faster. Or if money really isn't a biggie go HID, and get the 14000, that purple light it gives off, not the brightest light but definately you will get notice.

[cherrington17]

i got silverstars. like em.. but i still don't have my car back. 2 weeks to go...

[Alero04]

what are HID??
and how much do they cost? see i dunno if id like the purple look....but maybe i dunno :wacko:
now that u mention something about euro lights....my left one isnt working and when my ex went to see what was wrong he said my 'pigtail?' needs to be replaced?! wtf!!! is that my wiring? :unsure:

[Naich]

yes, that means the wiring burnt out from the higher wattage bulb.

Silverstars are the same wattage as stock, so they won't fry the harnesses.

HIDs are the types of lights on more upscale cars. They are very bright, and you will not need to use your high beams any more. They are like $350ish for a cheap conversion. But they won't look as nice withoug a projector retrofit which will cost a lot more.

[Alero04]

oki...maybe i wont get HID's right NOW....so go with the silver whatever kind?
do euro lights really suck that bad?!?!?!?! :blink:

[Alero04]

omg u have no idea how pissed off i am at my ex boyfriend right now....f*cker told me eurolights were the best and that those silver oens were crap....OMG! :pissed:

[Naich]

yeah, eurolights look pretty nice, but the higher wattage will burn out the harnesses unfortunately. I learned that the hard way multiple times. I've had many many different kinds of lights.... eurolights in blue and purple, some japanese brands, piaa, a real HID conversion, and silverstars. Of the lot, I am currently sticking with the silverstars, and i've had them about a year now.

Silverstars won't look like HID, so don't expect that... but they're just about as nice as eurolights and they won't burn out your harness. Of course they are a bit more expensive than regular bulbs.....

Some guys on here have also reported good results with phillips bulbs, which i might try out this summer.

[Alero04]

whats the deal with piaa? they any good?

[Alero04]

my main concern is...i love the way euro lights look at night. i want that same look. i dont want it to look cheap or anything like that. i mean onc ei get the cash ill definately get some HID's but i want the same look at the euro lights gave me.....and i heard piaa is a good name? lol btu then again...its from the car losers in my city :P

[rmulax19]

the eurolites will burn your harnesses causing a whole lot of frustration and unnecessary hassle.

i'm probably the 8th person to say this. i have seen it happen on more cars than aleros. eurolites look good but they draw so much power that they literally burn the harnesses right up. they are not fun to attempt to replace.

most people who have the slightest idea what they're talking about will tell you that silverstars are the next best thing to HIDs.

pertaining to all of the "car freaks" around your house...i'm willing to bet that one person tried the eurolites, liked them, told everybody that they were the best lights they've ever used,even though they never used any other lights, and that just snowballed into a whole buncha lies.

[Alero04]

lol!! i think u must live near me by the way u kno how the morons are here. :)
There is this one huge group who sit in a parking lot of our play theater and they think they know all. I had no idea. Cuz I had asked my ex about those silver ones cuz I remmeber seeing them in our hardware store. and he told me they were poop. that Eurolights are the BEST lights u can get. Ive had them since....May and the left headlight went out in december. my ex wiggled it around and it came back on btu he complained that he got a shock or got burned (LOL looks good on him if u ask me B) ) and it only stayd on for about a few days after he wiggled it around. now its been out ever since. if i had known those silver ones were the best besides HID's i woulda gotten up without asking my moron ex and his loser car freak friends! Im glad i kno now tho! Cuz from what i remember, those silver ones are cheaper then Eurolights too....
btw...how much ARE the silver ones? <_<

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by Alero04@Feb 10 2005, 11:30 AM
what are HID??
and how much do they cost? see i dunno if id like the purple look....but maybe i dunno :wacko:
now that u mention something about euro lights....my left one isnt working and when my ex went to see what was wrong he said my 'pigtail?' needs to be replaced?! wtf!!! is that my wiring? :unsure:
HID's - High Intensity Discharge. they give the best look since yo udindt care moneywise, they will run you anywhere from 300$-700$ and if you dont want to install them yourself you can easily get some help from autozone or a dealership.

[Travis99Alero]

Originally posted by Alero04@Feb 10 2005, 11:45 AM
omg u have no idea how pissed off i am at my ex boyfriend right now....f*cker told me eurolights were the best and that those silver oens were crap....OMG! :pissed:
he is obviously an idiot then

[Alero04]

yea he obviously is....thats why im single :D
but i cant afford the HID's as of right now....is there a specific line of the silver ones that will give me the look that the euro lights did?!

[johny_boy32]

Go here (http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PFYC&Product_Code=GN1010&Product_Count=14&Category_Code=ALEXT) to get teh silvania sylverstar's, and do me a favor and tell the people your hearing this crap from to learn some stuff about cars before they pass there useless knowledge off on others.

[Alero04]

silvania sylverstar's are the best ones?! sorry for naggin guys but im right picky with stuff like that. i dont want crap...adn now that i found out that i HAD crap for almost a year...it makes me quite mad....so are thsoe ones the best>? other then the HID's of course

[Alero04]

also...i really like how ur spedometor and crap are all in white...where can i get a kit of them? and remember....im canadian B)

[Redog]

Yeah those Eurolights and bulbs on eBay usually have a 80 watt rating (100 watt for high beam) and all they do is cook the hardness. With an Alero, you have to replace the entire headlight which is about $300 for one from the dealer ($100 on eBay)

Stay with the stock wattage 55 watts for lowbeams and 65 watts for highbeams and you'll be good. I have the Silverstars too, for almost 2 years now, and they are fine. I also got the Silverstar turn signal bulbs. They look blue but light up orange, so they keep you nice and legal :thumbsup:

Also, don't go with those cheap hardness extensions that CLAIM to prevent frying your hardness from using high wattage bulbs. I don't see how they work.

Ask your friends that say Eurolights are the best, "How much Horsepower you get from them" If they say anything other than 0, don't listen to them

[1WhiteOSV]

LMAO...only a Ricer would say Sylvania Silverstar's suck. That's a gag! I can't stop laughing! You need to stop talkin to those dumbasses! Keep this in mind: A fart-can and a jumbo jet wing does NOT make your car faster so if any of them have either of those things on their cars, they don't know crap!

Definitly go w/ Sylvania Silverstars, hands down the best bulbs you can get w/o goin HID

P.S. I, personally, have melted a wire harness from 80w bulbs on my Alero <_<

[1WhiteOSV]

BTW..I don't think I've seen you on the boards, welcome! If you have any audio questions, feel free to ask...I am a Best Buy car-audio Installer (MECP certified)..almost everyone on here has a great deal of knowledge of our cars so you shouldn't have any problem at all finding answers to any of your questions :)

-Adam-

[Alero04]

Originally posted by Redog@Feb 10 2005, 02:12 PM
Yeah those Eurolights and bulbs on eBay usually have a 80 watt rating (100 watt for high beam) and all they do is cook the hardness. With an Alero, you have to replace the entire headlight which is about $300 for one from the dealer ($100 on eBay)

Stay with the stock wattage 55 watts for lowbeams and 65 watts for highbeams and you'll be good. I have the Silverstars too, for almost 2 years now, and they are fine. I also got the Silverstar turn signal bulbs. They look blue but light up orange, so they keep you nice and legal :thumbsup:

Also, don't go with those cheap hardness extensions that CLAIM to prevent frying your hardness from using high wattage bulbs. I don't see how they work.

Ask your friends that say Eurolights are the best, "How much Horsepower you get from them" If they say anything other than 0, don't listen to them
[QUOTE]
so if my 'pigtail' as my retarded bf refered to it as...IS fried....i have to replace my entire headlight? or just PLEASE tell me that im reading that too quickly and am working too hard here at work so im reading things that arent even there?!?!?! :wacko:

well i have eurolights for my blinker and its legal here so, all id have to do is jsut replace that light with the silver one...
im gonna have to ask u guys exactly what to get wehn i get paid next week for my lights....cuz i wanna make sure i get the right wattage AND the right look :lol:

[Alero04]

Thanks 1whiteosv!! ill be hitting u up one mroe then one occasion im sure. ull be sick of me by the end of it all :P
im new to this whole car thing and trying to learn how to do it RIGHT....cuz clearly the morons that live in thsi city are just that....morons...(i always knew they were f***ing stupid...but i didnt think they were THAT dumb...cuz some of them do have nice cars...just not to my liking)

[1WhiteOSV]

depends how "crafty" you are....I fried my harness...the dealership will tell you that you have to replace the WHOLE thing (about $200/light) but I just pulled mine apart and soldered on new wire and everything was fine. If it comes to that I, or someone, could post a how-to (if it isnt done already)

[Alero04]

well, i havent taken the bulb out. cuz honestly, i didnt think anything of it. my ex assured me he was going to fix it and it'd be fine...lies lies lies lies. :P
so should i go home and take the bulb out?
and me fix something wire wise? i dunno man...imma girl who is JUST learning light info....i dunno if i could fix something on my own and have it function afterwards :P

[Redog]

Get the new bulb first then take the old one out

Be sure not to touch the glass on the bulbs. Natural oils on human skin will cause the bulb to fail quicker

[johny_boy32]

what he said...and i sent a you a pm alero04 on where to get the different gauges. If you need anything else feel free to ask.

[FormulaNERD]

usually by "fail quicker" you mean nearly explode! lol.

at work we were changing these bulbs for these really bright lights at a security post, well nobody told us to clean the bulbs after touching them.... turned them on and boom... boom boom... it was actually pretty sweet.

[Alero04]

so, im to get the sylvania ones....do they have them for the blinker light too? cuz i hate that orange.....i have the euro's for my blinker now and i am NOT going back to the orange/...YUCK :blink:

[FormulaNERD]

they have some that appear to be blue on the outside, but at night they actually light up LEGALLY with orange. you can get those but if you want to risk getting pulled over (probably not a problem since you have euros now) you could just keep the euros, they should be the same wattage as stock, and not cause any problems. i run the blue euros with no problem...

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/2/web/614000-614999/614269_6_full.jpg

[Redog]

Yeah I got mine at a car store in Central New Jersey but I've seen them at Walmart too.

usually by "fail quicker" you mean nearly explode! lol.


I didn't want to scare her

Here's a pic of Silerstar T/S bulbs ;)

Ask anybody I love to post pics of my car ;) :lol:

[Redog]

another

[Alero04]

oki bc its nto illegal here to not have front yellow blinkers...gotta have the orange rear ones but its legal to have blue or white front ones.....so i can KEEP the euros for my blinkers?!?! they wont fry anything?

[Alero04]

also....will they be the same color blue/white that the silver ones that imma put for my regular low beams?! or will the euro blinkers and the silver headlights...clash?!?! <_<

[Oldsman]

for the blinkers you can keep the euros. they cause no problems. i have been running them for years.


depending on how fried your harness is you will have to replace it or have someone you can trust (drive down here) to fix it up for ya.

[Redog]

All the Silverstars are the same color

[FormulaNERD]

my blue euro turn signal bulbs light up bright white (with a slight blue tint of course).... and when i had silverstars they didnt "clash". the bulbs i have now are even less blue than silverstar bulbs, and they still look fine with the euros

[Alero04]

So the euro blinkers and the silverstar low beams wont clash? lol i need it all to match and look perfect :P

[Alero04]

LMAO!! sorry guys for bugging yas :)
how much are these silverstars anyway?

[Oldsman]

your not bugging us. always glad to help out

my euros light up white so it doesn't clash. all the lights up front are white so it looks real good.

they will run you around $40-50 for a pair


http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/7/web/415000-415999/415926_28_full.jpg

[Alero04]

k cool! Now here's hoping that my wiring isnt f***ed.... :angry:

[Oldsman]

hopefully it isn't. good luck with it though.

[Alero04]

LOL! i just went on the forum for the morons in my city...the one they all go to...yea, apparently they DO know their poop and im the one who's a moron....lol ppl in this city are hilarious :P

[Oldsman]

those who think they know their poop........are annoying to those of us who do


LOL

[Alero04]

lol!! true true
hey do u know how much piaa lights are by any chance?!
and if they are any good?

[Oldsman]

i would say they are decent.

you looking at those for the blinkers?

[FormulaNERD]

PIAA's are ok.... but WAY overpriced.

http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Scre...gory_Code=ALEXT (http://www.pfyc.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PFYC&Product_Code=GN1002&Product_Count=3&Category_Code=ALEXT)

[Alero04]

well i have euro light blinkers....
oki...u kno what.....lets pretend i have factory bubs in my car....what would u suggest would look the bset for now? i dont want eurolights...my blinker doesnt have to be orange as it is legal to have white or blue blinkers for the front lights.....HELP !!!! LOL (keep in mind im gonna get the HID's in due time)

[FormulaNERD]

i'd get the euro blinkers if mine were still stock.

[Alero04]

which i alraedy have....
so blinkers are DONE! :D
now for my actual lights...low beams....
should i go silver or piaa?!?!

[Alero04]

i need ur guys' opinion bc i know what looks good...cuz well, we all got the same car :)...i just want it to be the best looking....next to HID's of course :)

[Oldsman]

go silverstar

[Alero04]

really? cuz ill pay the extra little amount for piaa if they're better....im sooo confused :blink:

[FormulaNERD]

piaa = 6/10.... 70? bucks?
silverstars = 7/10..... 40 bucks?

phillips vision plus = 8/10... 20 bucks :thumbsup:
they ARE NOT BLUE though.
can get them here:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/aid-auto/viplrebu90.html

[Alero04]

what u mean 6/10, 7/10, 8/10....??!?! like 8 outa 10 rating of goodness? :P LOL

[FormulaNERD]

my PERSONAL rating... based of various amounts of research and personal expirience.... still just an opinion albeit.

[02_Silver_Ho]

If you're looking for a white light, go with silverstar, but if you want something with a noticable tint to it, definately go with PIAA. You may pay more for PIAA, but i've had mine for over 3.5 years now, so basically you're paying for quality. Depending on if you want a blue or a purple tint, go with either the plasma or super plasma bulbs. :thumbsup:

[johny_boy32]

Just go with the silverstars...you wont be dissapointed

[mike2002]

i have silverstars, they arent blue at all, there more of a perfect white vs yellowish that stock lights have. im not really that impressed with them. i did some research and on other car forums people took pics with stock, then silverstar, then GE, then PHILLIPS...the ones that formulanerd just posted. the phillips but out the most light, way more than silverstars, GE was a close second, silverstar was 3rd, stock was 4th

get phillips

also, if your harness is bad, go to the junkyard and find any car that uses the same bulb as your car. take the bulb with you, and plug harness's into it untill you find one that fits, then just snip the thing off with 6" of wire still on it, then cut of your harness and splice it in. make sure not to mess up the polarity, just make sure it goes on the same way as the stock one


PS i cant believe there's 64 posts on this in 10 hours, you guys really chime in when its a girl that needs help...i should have put "female" in my avatar LOL

[FormulaNERD]

yea.. i have the phillips, i tossed my silverstars :)

lol... it's not pronounced mike.... its pronounced mika.... hah eurotrip was a pretty good flick.

[Alero04]

lol!! i like how i created a busy topic :P
*takes a bow*

[Alero04]

Just to inform u guys...lol i went on the forum which the car freaks go in that live around here....lol they told me that the lighting problem is CLEARLY my fault...i should 'educated' myself on these things before i do anything to my car. *funny cuz the lights were a gift and i didnt even kno anything about them til the bf brought the car back to me...with lights installed*
so basically they're calling me stupid for not knowing about my wattage and what the possibile risks are that could go wrong if the wattage is wrong...i was like...awwwe :( im sorry fellas...i didnt know i had to educate myself on something i ddint even know i was getting. i didnt know it was MY fault that my harness may be f***ed up...
the morons in this city really do make me laugh a wee bit :lol:

[Alero04]

also i was looking in the forums yesterday and saw oen about LED dome lights...festoon white LED dome lights to be exact :D i WANT and NEED them!! how much do they run? and again....canadian chick here....where can u get them?

[FormulaNERD]

http://www.autolumination.com (http://autolumination.com/festoon.htm)

theres the link, but i'm not sure which size you need <_<

edit:
link fixed

[Super White Alero]

ok alero04 here the HiD (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7953390068&category=36476) which I found on Ebay that are new choose the 9006 bulb so they will fit your lowbeam. Also side blinkers (http://www.epimporters.com/products/description.php?II=45) and singal lights (http://www.epimporters.com/products/description.php/II=29/WEBID=926f90e72bb857157188cc6c4525ddc8)

[shockz]

How much are the silverstar light bulbs for low and hi beams???

I've got to get a fog light and some other blubs... so I might as well look into these too.

Nevermind... too pricey for a lightblub... I was expecting 12 at most. Not 32.

[FormulaNERD]

just get the phillips shockz.

10 dollars a bulb.

[Sno]

Originally posted by Alero04
also i was looking in the forums yesterday and saw oen about LED dome lights...festoon white LED dome lights to be exact i WANT and NEED them!! how much do they run? and again....canadian chick here....where can u get them?
I just got 3 LED fuses, 1 for my dome and 1 for each light in my rearview, they look awesome.. haven't installed them yet ofcourse, my car is coming back in March... but from what i've heard/seen, they are nice and bright, and illuminate almost everything :thumbsup: also... how much to the Phillips brand headlights run? and are they a blueish tint like the Euro's? Cuz i'm looking for brightness, visibility factor, and like a blue tint in my headlights... I was looking at silverstars but they are like pure white... no tint, so are Phillips tinted?

[FormulaNERD]

blue tint robs light output.

the phillips are as far from blue as it gets. and are the brightest standard wattage bulb you can find (and cheap to boot!)

and silverstars to add a bluish/purple tinge, it's just not something your brain processes as blue. but it does this to achieve the appearance of being brighter.

now i'm just waiting for someone to argue with me... hehe.

[Alero04]

oki...i was told by the moron guys here...(in my city not on this forum) that piaa is too high of a wattage for my lights. adn my wiring sucks so thats why the euro lights didnt work....that everyone in the 'club' has euor's and they work fine. so its my wiring that is pathetic...not the lights....

[FormulaNERD]

no. eventually, the euros will burn up any harness... some people go longer than others, but in the end they burn up.

i mean, some cars might have a higher headlight wattage, but that doesnt make it any better or worse than an alero.

they're just idiots trying to A) impress you B) feel better about themselves for owning a honda/toyota/neon/etc

[Alero04]

lol well these freaks think they know it all. cuz its just my wiring thats f***ed....cuz apparently my wiring SUCKS! lol and if i wanted to get piaa...im stupid cuz its too high in wattage..... :rolleyes:

[FormulaNERD]

well the PIAA are 65/55... that sounds right to me? maybe someone else can have some input.

[Alero04]

see i belive u guys....i mean f***...we have the same car. some honda junkie thinks he knows my wattage and what is best...grrrr

[Oldsman]

just laugh at them. thats all you can do.

[crammers]

http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ord-Light~b...~Kit-1-6850.htm (http://www.eautoworks.com/html/ord-Light~bulbs-HID~Conversion~Kit-1-6850.htm)




sum cheaper hids i found :)