The Coldest Air Intake...

[johny_boy32]

I don't know if this is a repost but I thought I would post it anyways. I saw this on another forum I am a member on. Click HERE (http://www.eclipseforum.com/forums/uploads/post-12-1115331738.jpg) and HERE (http://www.eclipseforum.com/forums/uploads/post-12-1115331539.jpg) for pictures.

[johny_boy32]

And just so everyone knows....this wasn't made by a civic driver but for an eclipse instead....not that they are any better.

[doubleN0alero]

rice is still rice no matter how you dish it up

[johny_boy32]

^dido^ It is so funny reading some of the posts on that site, half of the punk @$$ kids think it will actually work and the other 1/2(Obviously the wiser and more knowledgable) know it wont.

[Crolero]

wouldnt that suck up mad water vapon into the enige?

[b-spot]

Originally posted by Crolero@May 17 2005, 08:18 AM
wouldnt that suck up mad water vapon into the enige?
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Lol.. the ice is OUTSIDE the tube. And that mod is totally good for 0.05 hp

[doubleN0alero]

which doesn't compensate for the extra weight that you're hauling around.

[jamcllw]

Originally posted by b-spot+May 17 2005, 10:00 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(b-spot @ May 17 2005, 10:00 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Crolero@May 17 2005, 08:18 AM
wouldnt that suck up mad water vapon into the enige?
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Lol.. the ice is OUTSIDE the tube. And that mod is totally good for 0.05 hp
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If you were in a high humidity area you could build condensation on the inside of the tube.

[Vtolds]

They do that little trick for drag racing but mostly for cars with turbos, to keep the air cold.

[Crolero]

cold pipes and warm air will cause condensation. Chem 101 :thumb:

[b-spot]

Originally posted by Crolero@May 17 2005, 09:50 AM
cold pipes and warm air will cause condensation. Chem 101 :thumb:
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several hundred degree engine turns that back to vapor pretty damn fast ;)

[eag182]

any of those import drivers realize most of their cars were made here?

[fusion]

They have a better system then that dumb rice box intake...

The Cryo CO2 kits are SIIIICK...

here's a link: http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sc&cid=1

[ImSoBored]

I think somebody had or has that on their car.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by fusion@May 17 2005, 01:17 PM
They have a better system then that dumb rice box intake...

The Cryo CO2 kits are SIIIICK...

here's a link: http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sc&cid=1
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why not just get nitrous.....

[kwhauck]

Originally posted by fusion@May 17 2005, 01:17 PM
They have a better system then that dumb rice box intake...

The Cryo CO2 kits are SIIIICK...

Â;-) here's a link: http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sc&cid=1
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from what i've read on other forums these kits are pretty worthless........
and i agree with -alero- you might as well get nitrous.........any compressed air is cold when you let it out because of the pressure change.......

[fusion]

Well, obviously these kits are designed to be used with turbo kits, considering how
hot they can get.

Obviously paying mad bills for this system by itself is not worth it.

And besides.. this post was in reply to the funny rice box intake... not on how to boost horsepower... especially when the CryO2 intake cooler is put inside the tube, thus decreasing some of the air flow.

my 2 cents.


If u want HP bang for the buck, then yes, NoS

[AleroBloke]

Originally posted by fusion@May 17 2005, 10:17 AM
They have a better system then that dumb rice box intake...

The Cryo CO2 kits are SIIIICK...

here's a link: http://www.designengineering.com/products.asp?m=sc&cid=1
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Rice box intake!! hahhaha

[kwhauck]

Originally posted by fusion@May 17 2005, 07:55 PM
Well, obviously these kits are designed to be used with turbo kits, considering how
hot they can get.
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still worthless with turbo kits from what i have read.........intercoolers get the job done........a lot of people have seen no gain to even a small loss using these cryo sprayers......the only good i have heard they are for is to spray an intercooler during dyno tuning to better simulate the cold air if you were actually driving......

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

I still don't know if this is better or worse than the guy who hooked up a Toro leaf blower motor up to his intake...lol

[ptrudel]

Originally posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat@May 18 2005, 02:50 PM
I still don't know if this is better or worse than the guy who hooked up a Toro leaf blower motor up to his intake...lol
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are you serious?? :wtf:

[ShortysTRM]

So...ummm...how is NOS any less ricey than a dry-ice cooled intake? I've never seen Vin Diesel hit a dry ice button and go into warp drive, and I've never heard of anyone blowing up an engine because they put ice on their intake (as said above, this is a trick that has been around for a long time, usually used at the drag strip between runs or on the dyno). Frankly, it's a good idea, but I assume that the air would pass through too quickly to really make m,uch of a difference, which is probably exactly why CryO2 put a bulb in the intake instead of just surrounding the tube with lines or something. I think people are way too quick to judge things now, but looking at a small, harmless, bolt-on "mod" like one of these things and saying "Just git nawws" is twice as retarded as this guy's "rice box intake."

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

Originally posted by 2000_olds_alero+May 18 2005, 04:30 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(2000_olds_alero @ May 18 2005, 04:30 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-AlbinoMonkeyRat@May 18 2005, 02:50 PM
I still don't know if this is better or worse than the guy who hooked up a Toro leaf blower motor up to his intake...lol
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are you serious?? :wtf:
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yeah, but for some reason I can't find the pics. It's actually not a horrible IDEA, just the implementation of the idea was quite ghetto. lol

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

I'm not imagining it: someone else seen it too.
http://forums.stangnet.com/showthread.php?t=417698

[UnoWHO]

Thats Dumb....Im not even close to knowing alot about cars..but I do know simple math and chemistry.

The Ice around the tube would cool only a portion of the tube...and not fast enough to cool any air down enough to make a difference...The air is moving so quickly that itd have to be cooled instantly at a certain point right before being heated again going into the the cylinder where its 50 times hotter than it was colder in that tube...doesnt make any sense...justa show item I think

I mean if you look at the intake systems first picture...its condenstaed only like 6 inches past the actual ice box...thats where the cooling ends...and starts to heat again as its put through two strokes of the engine in the cylinder(Intake, Compression...its put through those at the same time the engine has just got down Blowing up a gas air mixture in the same cylinder so I Imgaine its hot) giving it plenty of time to warm back to where it was originally and even hotter before the combustion stroke.... which goes Boom lol

[alero_ecotec]

well, it does look like dry ice rather than real ice, which is quite a difference considering ice is frozen water and dry ice is compressed CO2 gas, also, dry ice has a surface temperature of -109 degrees F, or -78.5 deg. C .............so i dont know, i think implemented in the right way, over a majority of the intake it could cool the air somewhat.........i'd like to see someone build an intake that flowed straight liquid nitrogen through the walls, considering the boiling point of liquid nitrogen is at - 309 deg. F

[sound_xtreme]

dump some liquid nitrogen in there. j/k

[UnoWHO]

The only thing I can think of that would do something to this effect we are trying to reach would be some type of Very very cold gas that is also flammable...so that once in the cylinder it burns off well

[ShortysTRM]

I dunno how effective it is exactly, but water injection is good way to cool compbustion temps. It's atomized so it cool temps quickly and will not cause hydrolock. They use it a lot on forced induction engines where intercoolers aren't practical/feasible, or just as an extra bit of cooling after the intercooler.

[neuroplasma]

I think I'd rather repeatedly smash my head into a wall than read through some of the threads on that forum again.

[RAVAGE214]

OF COURSE!!! Why waste all that money on a supercharger when i can just hook up my craftsman leafblower to my intake for free! ill be running 14's in no time!

[natedawg9640]

alero_ecotec hit it... it's definately dry ice... i was gonna say that till i kept reading down and he already covered it.... there is no possible way normal ice would be cold enough to frost the pipe past the box... and if it were normal ice you'd have to drain the box... the dry ice just evaporates... at first i didn't notice that the ice was around the pipe... i thought the air just went on the ice... i was like... yeah great plan... suck a c02 rich mixture in... that'll work great. they should think up a limited spray liquid oxygen injection for intakes... it's be super cool and oxygen rich... that'd be the poop

[mike2002]

i wouldn't be suprised if it had led's on the inside of that ice box to to complete the "fast and the furious" look