Got Air?

[slowandlow]

i do i got my isetup in today there is olny 2 things that i have to wait on .
1. i need 4 more fittings that forbiden has to order from me. to hook all my hose to the valves/tank.
2. this is more pita than anything else. i did a direct port with all my valves. now the problem is the fittings on the 5 gallon tank are to close togher to easly mount all 4 up valves


i will get some pics as soon as i can get my digital camera.

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Jul 23 2005, 04:11 AM
i do i got my isetup in today there is olny 2 things that i have to wait on .
1. i need 4 more fittings that forbiden has to order from me. to hook all my hose to the valves/tank.
2. this is more pita than anything else. i did a direct port with all my valves. now the problem is the fittings on the 5 gallon tank are to close togher to easly mount all 4 up valves


i will get some pics as soon as i can get my digital camera.
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I'm in the middle of re-doing my tank plumbing.. cleaning it up from the previous rush install. I'm taking pics of it .. I'll post later tonight of my setup.

[slowandlow]

yeah i want it installed.later on i will clean up the tank/valves. i am goung to be re hinked to make them look cleaner.

i think i might use elbos and run the valves along the floor and hide them with a cover.

[Oldsmopimp]

Ya I have mine direct to the tank. I hear ya...it can be a lil much hookin everything up. But with your 1/2" fills and 3/8" dumps it will be FAST as F***!! Thats what I got. Heres some pix, maybe will help ya.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/alexdueling/urride2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/alexdueling/airtrunkmockup.jpg

[AftermathAlero]

well I just redid my tank plumbing and cleaned up the wiring ALOT.

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/ca88.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/f665.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/5639.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/e03c.jpg

The wet spot in the tank pic is me testing for air leaks with soapy water.

[slowandlow]

you have a 8 gallon tank? i went with a 5. thanks for the pics. gave me some good ideas. dues it work as good/fast putting the valves in the spare tire well?

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Jul 24 2005, 07:11 AM
you have a 8 gallon tank? i went with a 5. thanks for the pics. gave me some good ideas. dues it work as good/fast putting the valves in the spare tire well?
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get your own ideas! .. lol yea i got an 8 gal. Barely fit. When I did my stereo installed.. I just winged it . Then when i got my air ride.. I went to put it in and barely have room like 1/2" of each side clearance. Putting the valves in the spare .. the rear is quick as fock for 1/2 fill. and 3/8 dumps is overkill. I have to get speed control valve knobs cuz it drops too damn quick. Front is good enough pick up for 1/2" fill and drop is good speed for 3/8's dumps.

U might not be able to do all the valves in your spare tire if you use the plastic hose. Those aren't as flexible as my stainless steel lines. Unless u get stainless steel too, then you would be able to do tighter turns. They're custom made at my local fitting store. for total of 50 ft of lines, all my fittings it came out to be around 500-600 bucks.. Can't remember exactly.. I just put it on my credit card a few months back.

Or you can run hydro hoses. Its a little cheaper than stainless steel lines.

Word of advice.. get good brand name fittings, cheap ones sucks.. Been there on my first week of install.. wasted another 140 bucks on those fittings that i can't return. cuz I threw out the package and receipt. lol which i'll prolly put on ebay later.

[Oldsmopimp]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Jul 24 2005, 07:11 AM
you have a 8 gallon tank? i went with a 5. thanks for the pics. gave me some good ideas. dues it work as good/fast putting the valves in the spare tire well?
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Generally the closer you have the valves to the struts, the better you will be. To me, the diffrence is so minimal that its like who cares...... People say it will be more bouncy with valves far away casue everytime you hit a bump etc... the air is foreced back through the lines. I kinda think its cool cause my gauges for the struts are constantly moving as weight is always shifting...like during turns for example.
And if your running plastic line I would deffinitly NOT put them in the spare tire spot. It looks like Ritchie barley made it with the braided lines.
The way I have mine is nice cause they are right there behind the seat for maintanince, and they sound cool. Its loud as hell.

[slowandlow]

i am getting ALKON fittings i told forbidden to get me good stuff that will work good. actuley i am going to stuff my tank in the corner of the trunk and face the valves twards the center. it will eat up 30%of my remaining trunk space.

[AftermathAlero]

Cool.. yea forbidden gets the good stuff.. so you'll be straight. Just the hard part to fixing all the air leaks from the first time after you put on everything. Heres some more tips: If you screw on fittings not tight enough or too tight, air will leak. So it'll take you sometime to get adjusted with the tightniess. Dont be surpried if he gets leaks galore on the first time of airring up. Just keep spraying soapy water and re-do the fitting (unscrew it , rethread it with teflon tape, screw back on) and check if its fixed. Fix each leak one at a time.

[AftermathAlero]

Also did u get manual gauges or digital one? Manual one will require you to run lines into wherever you put your gauges like the dash and stuff. I got the digital gauges, less plumbing, just a little more wiring, Only thing is that you need to program it for the sending units for it to read correctly. I didn't do that when i first got it and was wondering why the air tank gauge never went over 80 psi on the readout. LOL

[need4speed]

Originally posted by AftermathAlero@Jul 24 2005, 01:05 PM
Just the hard part to fixing all the air leaks from the first time after you put on everything. Heres some more tips: If you screw on fittings not tight enough or too tight, air will leak. So it'll take you sometime to get adjusted with the tightniess. Dont be surpried if he gets leaks galore on the first time of airring up. Just keep spraying soapy water and re-do the fitting (unscrew it , rethread it with teflon tape, screw back on) and check if its fixed. Fix each leak one at a time.
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:thumbsdown:

almost sounds to me ya don`t know what your talkin about dude, look if ya take your time and have experience with installs of air suspension you will not have a problem, there is no need to re-install fitting twice!! one time and that`s it
ya the soapy water is a good idea, but the experience is needed with the install

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by need4speed+Jul 24 2005, 05:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(need4speed @ Jul 24 2005, 05:23 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-AftermathAlero@Jul 24 2005, 01:05 PM
Just the hard part to fixing all the air leaks from the first time after you put on everything. Heres some more tips: If you screw on fittings not tight enough or too tight, air will leak. So it'll take you sometime to get adjusted with the tightniess. Dont be surpried if he gets leaks galore on the first time of airring up. Just keep spraying soapy water and re-do the fitting (unscrew it , rethread it with teflon tape, screw back on) and check if its fixed. Fix each leak one at a time.
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:thumbsdown:

almost sounds to me ya don`t know what your talkin about dude, look if ya take your time and have experience with installs of air suspension you will not have a problem, there is no need to re-install fitting twice!! one time and that`s it
ya the soapy water is a good idea, but the experience is needed with the install
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lol.... noob.

richie knows his poop.

air fittings are tempermental, like he said, too tight, or not tight enough, it can be hard to tell and will leak either way.

sure someone who has done 100+ air installs might get a little more lucky, from expirience alone. but we're talking about installing your airride yourself.

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by need4speed+Jul 24 2005, 11:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(need4speed @ Jul 24 2005, 11:23 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-AftermathAlero@Jul 24 2005, 01:05 PM
Â;-) Just the hard part to fixing all the air leaks from the first time after you put on everything.Â;-)Â;-) Heres some more tips:Â;-) If you screw on fittings not tight enough or too tight, air will leak.Â;-)Â;-) So it'll take you sometime to get adjusted with the tightniess.Â;-)Â;-) Dont be surpried if he gets leaks galore on the first time of airring up.Â;-)Â;-) Just keep spraying soapy water and re-do the fitting (unscrew it , rethread it with teflon tape, screw back on) and check if its fixed.Â;-) Fix each leak one at a time.
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:thumbsdown:

almost sounds to me ya don`t know what your talkin about dude, look if ya take your time and have experience with installs of air suspension you will not have a problem, there is no need to re-install fitting twice!! one time and that`s it
ya the soapy water is a good idea, but the experience is needed with the install
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I dont have a problem with my suspension.. its leak free for 3 months now (had the air ride since may). I'd just redid some relocating of a compressor and cleaned up the wiring in the back. Before It was hell cuz I couldn't access the wiring cuz it was behind my air tank. I was telling him since its his first time doing it. Just giving him some pointers.

[Travis99Alero]

Originally posted by need4speed+Jul 24 2005, 07:23 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(need4speed @ Jul 24 2005, 07:23 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-AftermathAlero@Jul 24 2005, 01:05 PM
Â;-) Just the hard part to fixing all the air leaks from the first time after you put on everything.Â;-) Heres some more tips:Â;-) If you screw on fittings not tight enough or too tight, air will leak.Â;-) So it'll take you sometime to get adjusted with the tightniess.Â;-) Dont be surpried if he gets leaks galore on the first time of airring up.Â;-) Just keep spraying soapy water and re-do the fitting (unscrew it , rethread it with teflon tape, screw back on) and check if its fixed.Â;-) Fix each leak one at a time.
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:thumbsdown:

almost sounds to me ya don`t know what your talkin about dude, look if ya take your time and have experience with installs of air suspension you will not have a problem, there is no need to re-install fitting twice!! one time and that`s it
ya the soapy water is a good idea, but the experience is needed with the install
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bodyman knows all guys, bow down to his knowledge. :lol2:

[Oldsmopimp]

No, You most always have to redo fittings. Not nessisarilly the brass to brass fittings since they are soft and easier to seal. Its plumbing straight to the tank where its steal NPT. I had to WRENCH on those suckers to get them to seal right. But then again I have a cheap tank. And ontop of it the ports are pre-machined, and then welded on therefor the thread warps a bit from the weld. So with that ontop of steel not being as soft as brass it can be a pain to get no leaks.

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by Travis99Alero@Jul 24 2005, 11:43 PM
[
bodyman knows all guys, bow down to his knowledge. :lol2:
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werd ..lol

not everyone has a 2 gallon tank from air ride tech. and there pre-assembled block valves :lol:

[slowandlow]

i dident get any gagues. or at least he did not put any in the package he set up. i do have a ajustable presure regulator. and want to get a nice digital setup with load leveling. is a gague mandatory?

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Jul 25 2005, 06:10 AM
i dident get any gagues. or at least he did not put any in the package he set up. i do have a ajustable presure regulator. and want to get a nice digital setup with load leveling. is a gague mandatory?
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oh yeah gauging is a must. The load leveling is crap.. Thats just 1 more thing to break. Not needed. But you gotta have gauges to monitor your air ride height, and/or detect any leaks while your driving. you could drive it locally if your not traveling more then 30 min, but for your ride height you'll need to get in and out of the car to make sure you clear the tires for turning or else you'll messup your fenders cuz our fenders sucks.. really thin metal. Will bend and buckle.

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by Travis99Alero@Jul 24 2005, 05:43 PM
bodyman knows all guys, bow down to his knowledge. :lol2:
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that does sound alot like bdyman... what a schl00b

[-Alero-]

so how much did it run you, to order all your stuff from forbidden?

[slowandlow]

2- Viair 450 compressors
4- SMC 1/2" valves
4- SMC 3/8" valves
1- 60ft roll of 1/2" air line
1- ADJ pressure switch
1- 5gal direct port tank
1- 10 switch box
1- water trap
4- airlift bag struts
2223 and change
and 4 ardcon fittings 33 bucks

and i spent about 100 in pipe to conect all the valves to the tank


so you put the gagues so the mesire you presure to the bags?
do you need 1 for tank presure?
i was thinking of getting this.

[slowandlow]

here is a pic of my valves
and also my pumps

[AftermathAlero]

Cool.. the compressors gets pretty hot .. So you'll want it to be not be too close to anything. Everything else looks good bro.

[slowandlow]

i will stack them vertley to gain space.
i will put a shelf off the sub box. my goal is to retain the most of my trunk as possable.

1 more thing where did you drill throgh to run your air lines? i am going to run 2 lines along the back of the trunk to get to the passanger side. and 2 to the driver side and run the fronts up the pinch welds but how to get them out of the trunk and to the pinch weld that runs along the sides of the car?

[AftermathAlero]

I'd just drilled through the top of the strut tower for the rear

Rear pics
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/be49.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b302/Aftermathalero/2e3e.jpg

The front I ran inside the car. like a normal stereo 4ga power wire.. Just find a hole in the front under the dash and poke through the grommet. But however you want to run yours.. you can drill through the trunk and run it under the car. It all depends on you, and what you want to do & where it'll be at.

I don't have pic of the front.. never took any.. lol Was lazy at the time.

[Oldsmopimp]

Ya if u have plastic lines(only tru ballaz like Ritchie can afford the s.s.braided, lol) I recomend running them inside the car. Its just safer.
I did my rears same as ritchie(cept I didnt drill thru 2layers where its spot welded :P ) And fronts up to passenger side, to the right of the glove box thru the fire wall, then each side across and another hole into strut tower. I dont have anypix sorry.

EDIT*** to the LEFT of the glove box, sorry

[slowandlow]

i plan on wraping the lines in http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.c...tnumber=082-348 (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=082-348) but you recomend in the car.

you just pull up the door cills and there is room down there?

[AftermathAlero]

you can put them outside if u want.. alot of truckers got their plastic lines outside in the trunk bed, under the hood. Its however you want to run them and how comfortable you feel where its located.

[slowandlow]

i got the lines ran inside the car it was easy to remove the door cills. abd i got all the lines cut but olny have 2 hooked up to the valves so i can wrap in texflex i left 3 feet of tubeing at the front so i can push them into the wheel whells. i just have to figure where to drill. i also have to wire up the pumps and switch block. anfd then add the digital control. and install the struts.

[slowandlow]

CAN YOU USE THE DIGITAL AIR MANGMENT WITH A SWITCH BLOCK? sorry about caps

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Aug 3 2005, 02:42 AM
CAN YOU USE THE DIGITAL AIR MANGMENT WITH A SWITCH BLOCK? sorry about caps
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yea, just tie in the wires the same way as the switch box.

[slowandlow]

i think i am not going to add the switch box and just go digital. i put the displat between the seats just above the on off switch for the tracton control. but i cant shift in to 1st or 2nd in the shifter. next weekend i will be installing the struts. i have everything done exept for the power tp the setup and the struts install.

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Aug 7 2005, 05:05 AM
i think i am not going to add the switch box and just go digital. i put the displat between the seats just above the on off switch for the tracton control. but i cant shift in to 1st or 2nd in the shifter. next weekend i will be installing the struts. i have everything done exept for the power tp the setup and the struts install.
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if your car is a daily. i would install the switch box too, cuz the digital control screen is just another electronics waiting to break. If its not a daily, theni wouldn't worry bout the switch box.

[forbidden]

cant wait to hear how that digital air controller works for ya.. Thats the first one i sold. But then again its just been out for over a month...

[slowandlow]

i like cutting edge.i did have to figure how to remove the air line from the push fittings and when i did it was a brese. i will get some pics. i have ben slacking off with this heat. and i have alot of wireing to do.


how much clearance around the pumps do i need?

[forbidden]

yea the Alkon fittings are no joke... best there is hands down As far as the compressors.. you just need 4 or 5 inches away from everthing. They do get hot as hell, but you will know that because you will bump up on them and it will let you know quick!!!!

[slowandlow]

here a few pics so far. the last one is fuzzy but it showes the gouges to the strut.

[need4speed]

still the sloppiest install i have ever seen, all that money invested and not even a thought went into that install
what a disgrace

[polarexpress17]

http://www.pittspeed.com/forums/images/smilies/ban.gif @ that guy,

anyways. how do you know that he's not testing all his lines and wires to see if they work, before he hides them?

[slowandlow]

i still have alot of work to do i hurt my thumb so it is in dis repair. i need to wire the pumps and switches and the struts . most of the ploming of the air lines are done
but the monotor between the seats is realey nice

[slowandlow]

well i got all the valves wired up. i have all but the tank sensors installed. i have the air line ran. i need to wire up the pumps. install the tank sensor. drill wholes and install the struts.

do i need to run a switch for the digital air mangment or can i leave it on all the time? and if i do will it kill my batteries?

[slowandlow]

well i got the pumps wired up and relays installed now i have to do some wire managment. and run a switched power. the olny problem is the relays wont turn on the pumps. but the pumps will turn on manuley when i by pass the relays. i do have some leaks

[Oldsmopimp]

u must be using a pressure switch from Rick?? For some reason Mine and Ritchies too, didnt work. I just wired a manual switch.

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by Oldsmopimp@Aug 16 2005, 10:54 PM
u must be using a pressure switch from Rick??Â;-) For some reason Mine and Ritchies too, didnt work.Â;-) I just wired a manual switch.
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its richie! ..lol.. my new pressure switch works good. Got it from rick. its by Viair. .. mines on the pressure switch and manual switch.. got both. Was just running manual switch before, but turn compressors on and off alot gets old. Especially for daily drive like mine.

[slowandlow]

i am useing the digital air managament and it uses relays. and that is not turning on the pumps. and i do have at least 1 leak once i get the pumps working good i will be testing for leaks.

[slowandlow]

well i contacted easy street they are sending me a new controler sence mine has no voltage to turn on the pumps. i did get my tank presurised and i have a 1 psi leak every 3 hours should i wory or work on fixing this?

[Oldsmopimp]

nah, 1psi over that time is nuttin. at 120psi, my tank only dropped about 8psi over 24hours. Its hard to get a leak free system with a setup like you have. as long as you can drive for an hour and not have to air up a bag over and over, your all good.

[slowandlow]

i dont have the bags in yet. i want to get the rest of the system up and running so i am not stuck with my car on the side of the road or in the driveway.

i love makeing it go pppppppppuuuuuuussssssssssssss when i hit the up sence i dont have the bags installed.

[slowandlow]

i was reading around not to go side to side it puts alot of stress on the body and i herd some one got a cracked rear glass. is this true.

[Pimpalero03]

it can. ive seen it on one alero and a coule grand ams

[Travis99Alero]

i did side to side all the time with air and juice and never had a problem. i'm not sure what the guy that cracked his back window f***ed up to have that happen, but i wouldnt worry about it, unless you have a bodykit molded on.

[sound_xtreme]

the alero on cardomain had fast bags and was hoppin it

[Pimpalero03]

same as the grand am i know, it was fast bags.

[Oldsmopimp]

U just cant be stupid with it. Its common sence. Were dealing with a unibody car (a CHINCY one at that) Its not built to take that kind of stress, let alone bouncin like a '64. Sure, u can side to side but keep it within reason. I rarley keep over 115 or so psi in my tank, cause anymore than that and the front or rear is up in a split second. So the car goes from layd out to all way up in a single tap. And I mean it slams up.
Sure, if your hoppin around and bendin corners on 3 your askin for trouble. Just remember its an alero, not a '64 Impala.

[slowandlow]

i dont want to hop it i was just trying to get some facts. actuley i will have 170 on my tank that is what the digital setup is set for and you cant change it.

[Oldsmopimp]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Aug 23 2005, 02:43 AM
i dont want to hop it i was just trying to get some facts. actuley i will have 170 on my tank that is what the digital setup is set for and you cant change it.
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Sux to be you. with 1/2" fill like you have...at 170.....he he he. just wait.

man, with the $$ they rape you with that controller, ya think youd be able to adjust it....

[AftermathAlero]

yea.. they should made that control adjustable pressure switch. oh well. .i hope ur new one works. Dont forget to fix all ur leaks. Spray soap and water on all the fitting connections.

We told you not to get the digi controller. but you wanted one.

[forbidden]

cracked back window...lol thats funny. the only way that will happen is you you dogleg ALOT.And still thats a little far fetched. I have had mine bagged since 99 and never had any problem with it messin stuff up. And I run 240psi soon to be nitrogen... so dont listen to that crap. PLus side to side does not put the car in a bind.

[slowandlow]

hey that digital contriller is sweet it has volts tank presure load leveling leak ditecton. and i can pre set my presure levels so when i hit auto it will bring me up to cruse levels

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Aug 28 2005, 12:33 AM
hey that digital contriller is sweetÂ;-) it has volts tank presureÂ;-) load leveling leak ditecton. and i can pre set my presure levels so when i hit auto it will bring me up to cruse levels
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damn.. that lazy.. i can do that too with my manual switch box front usualy 2 hits and set , rear 2 hits also. I can monitor mine for leaks with my pressure gauges.

[slowandlow]

well i got the right side on. and it is low. at full down do your tire rest on the plastic front wheel whell liner? i did put my down valves on backwards so it will not stay up. but this is a easy fix.

i dont have a camera at the moment it is in china till the end of the week

[Oldsmopimp]

lol..........I give up

[slowandlow]

not bad this is prety sweet i got my valves installed right and it is sweet fast but not hopping off the ground fast. but my front is leaning out a bit and the back looks like it is the front of a truck but that was pita to get in and i need to align the slot of the strut.

i think the hardest thing is finding and fixing the leaks and makeing sure you install the valves right so you dont have to do it twice.

[AftermathAlero]

uhh.. mine hopes when my tank is at 150psi.. 1/4 - 3/8 off the ground.

uhh.. the rear, you want 2 degrees of negative camber. so tuck em in the wheelwell. Front are fine. They look like they have positive camber, but after 1 weeks worth of driving and stuff.. its just looks like it. But your front camber will be at 0 degrees at 50-60 psi of inflation.

[slowandlow]

i droped it off to get aligned and they were like i dont know if we can align this and i told them you need to let the air out if you are jacking up the car off the ground. and they said they jack it up by the lower control arms so they keep the wait on the car. so i was like ok. i dont think they aligned a car on bags. also they told me i might have to fix the one wheel that was way out of alignment befor they could fix it.

[forbidden]

they have to align it whit ti a ride height or it will not work. dont align it with no psi in the bags....

[AftermathAlero]

umm.. the only thing they can only adjust is the TOE setting. cept for the rear has a camber slot.

yea.. you don't air out the car when getting aligned, you get it aligned at your ride height that you ride on.

PLUS.. WHY IN THE HELL (excuse me) .. are you getting the alignment so quick.. you need to drive on them for at least 100 miles for them to break in. Or else you'll be redoing the alignment again.

[slowandlow]

thanks for the advice actuley i was told that my ho is screwed. i was sent to a different one and they have a new one where they dont have to jack up the car. it is makeing a thumping noise from the rear now. it is toed in and cant be ajusted and the drivers side front strut is 1.8degred tilted but the right is right on. he said he cant do anything for my car and sent me away.

i hand titened the rear strut main bolt with 2 renches. on on the nut and on in the shaft.

[slowandlow]

well today i was working on getting rid of the air leaks i olny have 7 left to fix and down from 12 but one of my valves is leaking the actual valve it self

[AftermathAlero]

is it the fill or dump? if its the dump, you prolly messed it up, when you installed them wrong.

[slowandlow]

actuley it was the olny valve in installed right of the dump valves. all the other ones work great. i also think i might replace my bering plates. i have some places where you can see the metal bareings and there is no rubber.

[slowandlow]

here is the ride

[polarexpress17]

doesnt look all that bad, i love how the back wheels tuck, and the rims set it off very good, now lets see some in action pics

oh btw, if you drive with your car that low id suggest buying a warehouse and filling it with new axles, cause your CV joints will go like crazy

[slowandlow]

cant drive that low the fronts rub the fenders and fender llineings. i am likeing 40/60 psi ride front rear

[-Alero-]

dude that looks really nice, makes me wanna get air even more

[polarexpress17]

im getting air on my probe, but i think the hood makes his car with the air ride

[slowandlow]

found out that 35 up front and i rub when i turn. i like the ride fron 40-45 front and 60-65 rear. can you use rhe camber kit to fix the toe in the rear?

[Oldsmopimp]

Originally posted by slowandlow@Sep 23 2005, 03:23 AM
found out that 35 up front and i rub when i turn. i like the ride fron 40-45 front and 60-65 rear. can you use rhe camber kit to fix the toe in the rear?
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lol...........this is why I said, "i give up" earlier..... But Ill try again...

A camber kit fixes CAMBER. not toe. toe is not adjustable in the rear, and there is really no reason it should be messed up. If it showed a bad reading on the alignment rack......either they screwed up, or you have some major problems. Either you twisted something hittin switchez, or during your install....or maybe you bought the car used, and it had been smacked good. I dunno.

[AftermathAlero]

Damn bro.. you ride backwards of me. I ride with 50-55 psi in the front, and 30-35 in the rear. I got like 1/4" clearance for the rear fenderwell in the rear.. when its at 30-35psi. I love it slammed. Plus i'm kitted so my kits like 1 1/2" off the ground.

Sometime i ride the front with 25psi, but i can't turn only drive straight. Then when i turn i raise it back up to 50-55psi. (gotta clear them DUBS) .. ur 18's only require 40-45psi to clear.

Car looks good though. Only wish ya brought it to someone who knew what they were aligning.

[slowandlow]

no bought it new and i dident twist anything. the car was re ended once and was hit in the passanger side.
ok i am not the best car guy i am prety new to renching on cars. but i am very good at electroincs i designede and bult a slot machine. i took a 9mill mounted it to a rc car and put a wireless camera on it. bult a op amp and can buld/fix install computers and home theaters.
all i want is a little feed back and a little advice. all i ask is for a little patiance and a little help.
forbidden has ben very helpfull and so has tech suport at easy street. helped me wire in the switch block to the digital setup and installing a seccond relay for the seccond pump.

if i knew everything i would not be on here.
yeah some things i say is dump some times my spelling is bad b ut all i want is help not to get bashed.

[Oldsmopimp]

Damn, now I feel bad. I dont mean to sound like a dick. Just some of things youve said/asked.....Its like, "ok, this guy seriosly needs to bring is car to someone experianced with airride, etc.." But your right, at least your trying to learn. Keep at it and good luck with the car. Its looking good.

[Oldsmopimp]

Oh ya.....and you may wanna take it somewhere else to get it alligned. The toe should be fine in the rear. Try to find a reputable place that does work on modified cars..not just in and out everyday cars.

[slowandlow]

i went to a guy that dues way out customs. he said it is normal for a little toe in on the alero. i showed him everything i did he said it looks good. and i asked him to fix all my air leakes. so for about 100 he is going to move all the valves in to the area where the spare is and fix all my leakes . and get rid of the thumping noise. also i was tild i can get another 1/2-1 in with a few mods to the front to make it drop as much as the back but i think i am going to hold off on that.
he had a nice hemi 300 putting lambos kit on. that just dont look as cool as in the pics you see.

[AftermathAlero]

In the front : to get another 1/2" you need to cut slots in the pinch weld lip and beat them flat or just grind the area down and weld up where the pinch weld seem was.

Thats the easy 1/2"

Another way get is to down size ur tire profile. like if u have 18's ... get like 215/35/18 instead of 225/40/18 and it'll make it lower, but your speedo will be off by alot.