Snow Tires Test

[falloutboy]

Hi Folks,
now that it is getting friggin cold here in Germany. I need some new snow tires.
THEY NEED TO BE STOCK SIZE (f***ing officials)

But here in Germany the biggest testet tires are 205's
The are testet by a magazine, so it was a good independent test.

Now my question is, where to get such a test on US Homepage. At best would be a official test or a test of a car magazine.

If also read a little bit in the tire test post here in forum. But arent that pleased with it (sorry) But i got to say, i havent read all postings.

So now to the other question.
Since my subscription to Super Chevy is going to pass out this december. I wanted to get a new magazine.
I was pending between Hot Rod Magazine
or a magazine that main topic are Aleros :) or at least comparable cars.
What Magazines would that be? Its not GM High Performance :D

Ok, thats it for now.

Thanks folks, u r the best :thumb:

FB

[misslindseysue]

I don't know about a magazine, but I have Cooper Weather-Master snow tires and they're awesome. I've never gotten stuck anywhere.

http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/ProductDet...Passenger+Tires (http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/ProductDetails.asp?ProdType=Passenger&id=218&title=Passenger+Tires)

[pawzbear]

my fave car mag is not a big one.. but it is funny and has cars in it you actually want to read about... MPH is the name =/
Its really hard for me to find in stores around here so i need to get a subscription.

[Mischief007]

Originally posted by misslindseysue@Oct 19 2005, 09:45 AM

I don't know about a magazine, but I have Cooper Weather-Master snow tires and they're awesome. I've never gotten stuck anywhere.

http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/ProductDet...Passenger+Tires (http://www.coopertire.com/us/en/ProductDetails.asp?ProdType=Passenger&id=218&title=Passenger+Tires)
Quoted post


There are the tires that I'm buying this weekend for my Alero in the size of 205/55/16s. I've had Cooper Weather-Master ST2 tires on my Cavalier and they made a huge difference.

[coredump]

Sorry, I dont have a magazine sugestion for you, but I do have a website suggestion for finding tires. www.1010tires.com. The tires are rated based on other users feedback and ratings. It was one of a couple of sites I used before buying my tires last year.

[Matthewfinlay04]

www.tirerack.com is a good website too

[crashontome]

bridgestone blizzaks are very good winter tires. tirerack has em cheapest ive found

[falloutboy]

Ok the prices there, arent right for me.
Because I got to import them, to Germany.
Its just a quest of calculating. Whats cheaper, to buy a tire here in Germany or let it import from the US or Canada.

Are there any STEEL rims for Aleros?
Or how expensive are the original rims?

Thanks for the suggestions.

And dont forget to wirte me some hints about good magazines :)

Greetings
FB

[Mischief007]

You can buy the universal 16" rims of tirerack.com or 1010tires.com or you can try and find 15 inch used Alero wheels.

Here are some prices on wheels:
http://www.partstrain.com/products/Wheels/...BILE~ALERO.html (http://www.partstrain.com/products/Wheels/2002~OLDSMOBILE~ALERO.html)

I just had the Cooper WeatherMaster ST2s mounted on mine stock 16" alloys.

[misslindseysue]

I have my Coopers on my stock 15's and have different 17's for summer.

[falloutboy]

Ok folks,
after considering alot. And getting prices and so on.
I decided to get the cooper tires.
It's very interesting that I have very little to choose from.

And now bet what. I get 4 Cooper tires for 290€ (350$)
These are the cheapest tires i could get. Even tires that are normaly sold in Germany are way more expenisve. I cant believe it.

But gues what. I wanted to put this new rubber on new rims. Steel rims.
The reasons.
1. I dont wanna always have to "peel" the tires of the rims, I change from Winter to summer rubber.
2. Steel rims because of the officels / police.

Thought it would be easy to get some rims. Gues what. Its a pain in the ass.
NO RIMS; WHAT EVER KIND I CHOOSE

One original Rim, would cost my 250€ (300$) ONE f***** rim. Cant believe it.

Its realy a pain in the arse to get stuff for this car.

But hey I drive a car, that drive only a few people in Europe. :biggrin:

Greeting
FB

ohh here a pic of my ride
http://freechat.webkicks.de/deppenchat/pro.../falloutboy.jpg (http://freechat.webkicks.de/deppenchat/profile/falloutboy.jpg)

[misslindseysue]

Wow that is expensive. I won't even tell you what I paid for my Coopers. Steel rims is probably a good idea though. That's what a lot of people around here do, too, that I've seen. Then you can just leave them on the rim and change them when you need to. No need to remount your tires twice a year. Steel rims should be cheaper too, especially if you go with a 15".
Can you import a rim/tire package from someplace like www.tirerack.com? They sometimes have good deals on stuff like that. There are other sites that do, too. I don't know who all carries the Coopers.

[falloutboy]

I dont need the tires any more, cause i already ordered them.

Hm importing is nice said.
but think about it 50$ per rim
+ transport costs (guess at least 100€ <- Euro)
+ around 4% costum fee
+ importing tax of 16%

= quite expensive for a set of steel rims.

But its all a question of calculation.

I need to order some other stuff for my baby, so perhaps I can get the rims with it, and hope to safe a little money.

Ohh and about rims.
To put rims on a car here in germany you need.
1. A offical dork head, that allows you to have these rims.
2. he only allows it IF
you have a special letter from the manufaturer that says that these rims (or what ever) can carry that vehicle and are in the limits of the German law

and so on.
wanted to have 195 / 60 / R15. Not possible
But RoninKouga has em.
but officlas dont care.

Its a real pain in the arse to tune cars here.
Ok u only have realy safe cars on the road.

so enough for today
cya

[falloutboy]

Remounted my tires this morning.
First I was very carefull, not to damage the Tire pressure Sensors.
But hey there arent any???? :(

And those Cooper Tires look like they where made for offroad cars.
Like our Nissan X-trail or Nissan Pick Up
(Yes im working in a nissan dealership :eek: )

Drove my first 20 km with em, good guidence, got to steer very sensitiv when driving with more than, 120 km/h

They have a very soft rubber mixture, hope it gets very cold this winter, so i can realy try em out.

Have broad ways between the "rubber sockets" should work nice with extreme wet streets.

And the thing with road noise. Nearly nothing, not louder than my summer tires.

BUT
Due to the fact of the big rubber sockets, they are a little bit tricky to balance
(is this the right expression ?? )

so thank for the help.
Ohh and about the rims, i decided to take some aftermarket rims for summer and use the orginal for winter.

Greetings

[Mischief007]

Originally posted by falloutboy@Nov 5 2005, 10:21 AM
Ohh and about the rims, i decided to take some aftermarket rims for summer and use the orginal for winter.


Cool. You're doing the same thing I am. I actually already found my Summer rim. Keeping it at stock 16" size though. Not going bigger.

[the.saint]

bit late, but winter has set in later here.

I have the same problem being in Europe but i solved your tire pressure monitoring plroblem:

A. Indirect TPMSs

Indirect TPMSs typically work with the vehicle's anti-lock brake system (ABS). The ABS employs wheel speed sensors to measure the rotational speed of each of the four wheels. As a tire's pressure decreases, the rolling radius decreases, and the rotational speed of that wheel increases correspondingly. Most indirect TPMSs compare each wheel's rotational speed with the rotational speed of the other wheels. If one tire becomes significantly under-inflated while the others remain at the proper pressure, the indirect TPMS can detect it because that wheel's rotational speed is higher than the rotational speed of the other wheels. This information is conveyed to the driver by a simple telltale. The telltale indicates that a tire is under-inflated, but cannot identify which tire is under-inflated. Current vehicles that have indirect systems include the Toyota Sienna, Ford Windstar, and Oldsmobile Alero.

B. Direct TPMSs

Direct TPMSs use pressure sensors, located in each wheel, to directly measure the pressure in each tire. These sensors broadcast data via a wireless radio frequency transmitter to a central receiver which analyzes the data. The central receiver is connected to a display mounted inside the vehicle. The type of display varies from a simple, single telltale to a display showing the pressure and temperature in each tire, sometimes including the spare tire. Thus, direct TPMSs can be linked to a display that tells the driver which tire is under-inflated. An example of a vehicle equipped with a direct system is the Chevrolet Corvette.