mead, i can hear the pump spinning over.. and it's spinning over with no load, meaning it's not picking up gas... that's the sound mine makes when it's oput of gas, add gas and it will start..lol

There's gas in it!


Unless the gauge screwed up.


I swear to god if you're right, I deserve to be banned.

nate it sounds a lot like when your car did not start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhPwmj0s4AY

Put in 10 litres of Gas, on top of the 1/4 tank that was already in it.

Same results.

Who's next? haha

At 4:30 I'm gonna call the Local Shop here and a Tow truck, I'm out of ideas, I have to do something. I need this car back, I live alone and it's my only vehicle.

starter, headgaskets something like that.

Car is turning over fine so it can't be the starter, and All Fluid levels are fine, oil looks normal, No leaks on the ground under the car. I doubt it would be headgaskets.

ok check the spark plugs and injectors.

Called the Tow, He'll be by to pick it up in a bit.

I'll post up the issue when it comes back from the shop.

my guess... you have a mythological beast jumping around in your upper engine, blocking the proper air/fuel ratio, so it won't turn over.

This problem is usually caused by chupacabras

ok hope it does not cost much to fix.

I second this.

got fuel... fail, i'm sure it has oxygen, so, spark lol

maybe he got water in his fuel somehow? i would have put in some dry gas to see if that helped because water always sinks to the bottom..... has your SES light been on recently while driving?

either way, good luck with it.

Even with water in the fuel I'm sure it would try to start a bit... this is nothing, dead, done (sounds to me at least).

Did you actually check to see if it's getting fuel? Press the schrader (SP?) valve on the fuel rail and have someone crank the engine... should squirt out.
If you can, check the injector wiring (forget if it's easy to get to or not)... IIRC the Pink wire should have system on it, and the other wires give/takes ground... make sure those are working properly (if nothing else, check these at the PCM!!!!!)

If both of those tests pass, fuel is good to go.

Make sure you check spark (incase no one said that already).. if you haven't done it yet, DO IT!!!!! Grab a spark tester and make sure both coils are producing spark.

No spark? Chances are both coils didn't go out at once.

So. Make sure the ICM has power and ground (system on power and .0x volts on ground). Check the crank sensor wires (yellow and purple IIRC).. if you have a scope you should see a nice wavey pattern, if you don't have a scope, throw the MM on it and at least look for some voltage generated (in AC).. at least that will prove it's making voltage...

I don't remember if the IDIS has a cam sensor... but if it does, check that, too. If it's a pulse generator (2 wire) check it same at the CKP. If it's a hall effect (3 wire), make sure it has power, ground, and the signal wire is either producing a digital pattern (boxes on the scope), or at least some voltage.

That'll be a good place to start on the issue... don't waste your money at a shop if you can fix it yourself mannnn.

Looks like Cherry was right.

Shop called, they pushed it in and it started up perfectly.


He's blaming the fuel pump being on it's way out, I knew the price of it so I told him I'll chance it (Because it was spinning up) The Gas line antifreeze coulda taken longer to work too.

There was a knock in the front end, I assumed it was a tie rod, so he put it on the lift and the Coils on both side of the front are broken, as well as the mounts.

So I'm basically getting a new front end. which might explain why my 17's were rubbing last year, if those were worn.

Coils, Mounts, Possibly struts (280,000 on it. good chance struts.)

If it fails to start again I'll put a Rag in the tank and light it on fire. But the shop can't fix what isn't broken. He also tried to explain to me about passlock. then i told him the light wasn't on.

:yahoo:

eff'n chupathingy's... hate those pricks.

The gremlins are back!

It's drizzle and fog here today, So i'm thinking it has to do with the moisture in the air?

Maybe an exposed wire in a potentially get wet area? Check near the wheel wells or even where the hood release is because I know that I sometimes have water squirt in through there.

At least your fuel pump went at home. Try having to go when you are going 45 MPH :rolleyes2:

So Nate, let me guess. The fuel pump isn't working because the fuel in Canada is so could, but it doesn't crack the injectors, block, or manifold, it's a magical thing that knows to go right for the headgaskets and of course we all know that a bad headgasket will cause a car not to start. It will also cause boggers to dry up inside of your nose and you turds to come out sideways. Cracked head gaskets also cause Swine Flu :rolleyes2:

Clutch, Would you mind telling me what that valve looks like?