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cherrington17 03-29-2008 10:15 AM

yeah.... won't fit in spare hole.... so back to the idea with the sides....

(the spare part was somewhat veto'd as well. not only will they not fit exactly properly with some wood, but with my parents being insurance agents they jumped all over me and i won't fight that.... they could cancel my policy. :glare: )

YALEROYNOT 03-29-2008 12:01 PM

I am throwing around the Idea of an amp rack. this is a few of the ideas I am thinking of



or i want to stack my two amps like a stairs on top of each other.

cherrington17 03-29-2008 12:20 PM

i might do something like that.... if i can pull it off, it'd be slick. keep all my trunk space and loose the little bit of overhead i have

.... but i'm not sure if i have enough length to pull that off. whelp.. back to measuring. :lol:

cherrington17 03-29-2008 01:20 PM

:( looks like i'm making an amp wall similar to what ryan did. amps are too long for the shelf, and the hinge idea just has too many flaws to be considered much more then a "theory"

damn me and my eff'n huge amps!


but i did get the adapters cut down the the right size and my wiring ran, so its just a matter of getting the wood cut/carpeted, amps mounted/wired, speakers in/wired. :yahoo: its coming together nicely!

Cliff8928 03-29-2008 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by YALEROYNOT (Post 346366)
I am throwing around the Idea of an amp rack. this is a few of the ideas I am thinking of



or i want to stack my two amps like a stairs on top of each other.


I have similar much more basic version of that in my Beretta, it works well and doesn't interfere with the trunk space.

lonnie 03-29-2008 03:35 PM

Wow I'm surprised that you couldn't get those in there I thought for sure they would fit...I'm going to do the amp wall as well I like the stealthyness of it and I think it is alot better then mounting to the seat like they are now.

Dont forget to do the headlight mod, I did it yesterday and it took all for 20 minutes, but I did prep my relays and wires first.

cherrington17 03-30-2008 11:27 AM

headlight mod?? :huh:

lonnie 03-30-2008 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 346508)
headlight mod?? :huh:

Yeah look in the low/high/fog on at the same time thread...its where you get the lows to stay on with the highs as wells as the fogs...all thats needed is couple of relays and some wires and terminals. Pretty cool I think. Did you decide on what you are going to do?

cherrington17 03-31-2008 07:31 AM

i did. pics will be posted later today... :yahoo:

and i'd rather just get HID's... which might be a present next year... until then my silverstars work just fine, but i do think i need to adjust my headlights, they are aimed a little low.

lonnie 03-31-2008 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 346612)
i did. pics will be posted later today... :yahoo:

and i'd rather just get HID's... which might be a present next year... until then my silverstars work just fine, but i do think i need to adjust my headlights, they are aimed a little low.

Cool can't wait to check them out...and that mod isn't for everybody but its just like anything else I suppose. Are those HID's expensive?

cherrington17 03-31-2008 08:16 AM

oznium has them. 250 by the looks of it. which, back when i was considering it, it was 4-900. so 250 doesn't seem bad for MUCH better view of the road...

lonnie 03-31-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 346626)
oznium has them. 250 by the looks of it. which, back when i was considering it, it was 4-900. so 250 doesn't seem bad for MUCH better view of the road...

:( Holy shit that's alot of cheese but considering I guess it is a deal....well to say the least I'm cheap, and can't see paying that much, but to each his own. What kind of work are you looking at for an install like that. I would imagine its not just plug and play is it?

cherrington17 03-31-2008 10:36 AM

its relatively plug and play... i'm guessing about as much work as installing these new speakers...

everytime you read about someone on the boards having issues "installing their ballasts" those are for the HIDs. they just have a small box for each light, that converts the power.

lonnie 03-31-2008 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 346643)
its relatively plug and play... i'm guessing about as much work as installing these new speakers...

everytime you read about someone on the boards having issues "installing their ballasts" those are for the HIDs. they just have a small box for each light, that converts the power.

Oh ok yeah I've heard about these problems but seem to be installer error....maybe. Ever heard the life cycle on one of those ballast..I wouldn't want to pay that much and the ballast only last a short period of time. Now do the lights just sit in the stock locations or do you have to modify that as well? I like the idea of them I just don't like the price.

cherrington17 03-31-2008 10:58 AM

i'm pretty sure they sit in the stock location. I'd have to research more, if the purchase started getting more realistic. (wouldn't buy it myself... but if my g/f got generous.... :lol: )

alright... back to work. knees have rested.

lonnie 03-31-2008 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 346652)
i'm pretty sure they sit in the stock location. I'd have to research more, if the purchase started getting more realistic. (wouldn't buy it myself... but if my g/f got generous.... :lol: )

alright... back to work. knees have rested.

Better treat her right then:lol: ! I hear that I have to return a radio to a fire station chat later.

cherrington17 03-31-2008 04:39 PM

2nd amp in, mostly connected. 1 xover in, 1 tweeter, 1 speaker all in. power all run, tested and functioning (except for a power off "pop") i'm assuming that due to bad ground, or audio wires run near power ones?

eff this is alot of work. espicially when working alone. my bro and dad will be home soon, maybe they can help finish the job tonight.

lonnie 03-31-2008 05:53 PM

I hear that have you run into any snags getting the speakers in there?

cherrington17 03-31-2008 05:58 PM

a couple. i have my xover out lines running next to both power lines.....

and the GIANT problem of running 16ga power lines over to the speakers through the door grommet...

lastly the magnets are a little too deep still. they hit the window brace. shouldn't be a problem, but it doesn't make my comfortable.

lonnie 03-31-2008 06:03 PM

Did you put your xovers in the back as well, and what about making the trim ring wider. Are you using a fish tape of any sort to run those wires cause it makes a world of difference for me?

cherrington17 03-31-2008 07:20 PM

i used a coat hanger to fish the wires. it took a little bit of time, but it worked a HELL of alot easier then just doing it normally.

the xovers are under the back of the front seats. there is a little ridge of metal there, that i used some strong plastic velcro-like strips to hold them in place.

and what do you mean make the trim ring wider?

cherrington17 03-31-2008 07:50 PM

Pics...
The New wall...


Just TRY to find the remote wire...


The Tweeter Issue


Told you they were HUGE amps....



Speaker in the Door


Trunk View...


AANNDD i'm spent.

soo sore. but it sounds great, and when i turn it up... its loud as hell!

cherrington17 03-31-2008 07:52 PM

the wires will be hid... just need some rest first...

Ryan from Ohio 03-31-2008 07:56 PM

Dont be scared to hack into them sails. Your blocking a lot of your tweeter and that imaging cant be good at all. It will make a giant difference ;)

I was very hesitant to hack into mine, but I figure I can get a set at the yard for $25 if it ever comes down to needing bone stock.

cherrington17 03-31-2008 08:44 PM

they sound pretty damn good for now.. and i'm way too sore/aggrivated with how long that took to hack into them now. maybe down the line.


and after setting it all up, my speakers now pop when my h.u turns off.... why is that? bad ground/power near RCAs??

lonnie 04-01-2008 12:37 AM

I meant make it thicker so that the speaker is pulled alittle futher off of the glass, and you may be getting that pop because of the gain levels on the amp. If you can adjust the gain on the crossovers I would turn them all the way down and same for the amp. Then work my way up to a comfortable level with out the popping. If it isn't your gain settings then you will have to in stall a switch to turn them off before the HU

lonnie 04-01-2008 12:38 AM

Hey please tell me you wrote the measurements down on that wall cause I want to do that.

cherrington17 04-01-2008 08:26 AM

i believe it was about 37"x17" the hardest part was doing the two curves at the top.... but i just have 2 L brackets at the bottom and drilled two holes in the top (through the overlapping metal lip)

lonnie 04-01-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 346859)
i believe it was about 37"x17" the hardest part was doing the two curves at the top.... but i just have 2 L brackets at the bottom and drilled two holes in the top (through the overlapping metal lip)

Oh ok so where you screwed it at the bottom you don't have to worry about the gas tank? It looks really good, where did you get the carpet from?

cherrington17 04-01-2008 10:43 AM

the carpet is just cheap gray crap from a hardware store. :lol: and its identicle to the color of everything else. it was like $10 for 10 yards. its the same stuff i covered my box with. cheap carpet+spray adhesive+ a dozen staples.

i took a look under the car, and the gas take is mounted under the backseat. the screws are basically directly under the metal overlap, which is nowhere near that. i double, then triple checked before i drilled, but yeah, no problems there. I'm not sure about the sedans, but i'm in the clear for those. plus, i bolted that wall in place, then from the front, put 2 screws back through into the box. so if anyone tries stealing any of it, it won't budge at all....


there is a downside though(as i just found out today... how can i fold my seats down? :lol: doh! i usually pull the strap, then push from the back... and i realized as i did that, i was being dumb and pushing on the wall.:banghead: my dumbass moment of the day. i got it, but i'll have to keep some bungies in my trunk now... until i can rig up some kind of pulley system, going to the backseat..

lonnie 04-01-2008 12:12 PM

Ha ha Ha I wish I seen you pushing on that wall LMAO! I guess I'll have to get my ass on the ground and see where the tank is for a sedan. I was thinking of that though you know having to put the seats down and it dawned on me that I have kids, and when I need to get them down I'll just call them out...LOL! You do have the wall now you could just remove the latch...I cant see those seat going anywhere....unless of course you were in an accident then it may not be as pleasant. I want to do this this weekend, and I hope I can by a 4X4 piece of MDF or Plywood from Lowes.

lonnie 06-14-2008 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 346859)
i believe it was about 37"x17" the hardest part was doing the two curves at the top.... but i just have 2 L brackets at the bottom and drilled two holes in the top (through the overlapping metal lip)

That would be 37 1/2" X 18" Just cut it today now I got to find some damn carpet.

cherrington17 06-14-2008 06:08 PM

i had a little room going around the outside to snake wires under.... but the carpet filled it in nice so it doesn't look bad at all.


and i got mine at Tru-Value. I'm not sure if you guys have those around there. but its the cheapest most generic carpet i found. which... ironically, matches the other stuff perfectly. :lol:

lonnie 06-14-2008 11:01 PM

Well I had to go to a local radio shop here to get the carpet and it was like 8.00 for a square yard which was more then enough. I decided not to mount the amp to the board and only carpeted the trunk side of the board, so when looking in all you see are the subs. I also had enough room at the bottom to run my wires to the other side. To solve the back corner issue I just angle cut them and they fit perfect. All and all I really like the wall, and getting the seat down is no problem cause my arms are long. I'll throw up some pics one of these days.

Ryan from Ohio 06-15-2008 10:09 AM

I cut mine on 45 degree angles. I also took the plastic shroud out and ground the back side so the board will fit.

I see most of you just pulled that off.

I got my board out now and can snap some pics of it later tonight or tomorrow.

But its time to go east some breakfast and play with my new toy!!!

lonnie 06-15-2008 03:37 PM

I took my shroud off awhile ago because I had to squeeze 3 amps and a cross over on the back of the seats but now the other 2 amps are gone and I just left it off. The only thing I had to angle were the corners that met up with the curved upper part in the trunk. I'll get some pics

CharleyO99Alero 06-15-2008 09:06 PM

***

BTW ... the gas tank on the 4 door is in the exact same place as on the 2 door.

lonnie 06-16-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CharleyO99Alero (Post 365171)
***

BTW ... the gas tank on the 4 door is in the exact same place as on the 2 door.

Thanks charley now I can drill with out worry, cause I'm going to mount my cap in the gap between the seats and the wall.

cherrington17 06-16-2008 08:48 AM

as i was driving the last night i had the stereo really low and noticed the speakers sounded a little odd. hmm... so i went through and played with the fade/balance. on the full front left, the back right speaker is on.

:lol:

i, apparently, need to write down what colors i'm using for what wires, because simply plugging them into the HU, and not even an hour later plugging them in on the other end, is too much to remember. I'm retarded :banghead:

lonnie 06-16-2008 09:12 AM

Better get those polarities right....Hey cherry are you using a stiffening Capacitor? I'm going to try and install mine this afternoon, and wondered if you had one with both of those amps you are running? Do your lights dim at all and do you ever pump your stero? If so do they dim then?


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