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Caboose73 04-26-2009 01:18 AM

no you can put it any were i just T off of the big coolant line

worknprog.99 04-26-2009 01:19 AM

gottcha.
if its not the gauge any ideas?

Caboose73 04-26-2009 01:21 AM

it might have to do with your fans not kicking on cause you said it cools down a little when driving it.Did you check your thermostat yet?

worknprog.99 04-26-2009 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Caboose73 (Post 456937)
it might have to do with your fans not kicking on cause you said it cools down a little when driving it.Did you check your thermostat yet?


it gets weirder now that you mention the therma. i replaced the thermastat last week and it drives a little hotter than it did before. and still idles hot and the fans dont turn on... but if you turn the car on and the ac is on the fans will keep it from going over half until i drive it... but after it heats up it wont cool off until you idle then for some reason it cools a little and so on....

Caboose73 04-26-2009 01:31 AM

hmm thats weird well after you get that gauge you will be able to tell if its just your gauge messing with you or if its a real problem. and if you get the gauge and it reads hot then the only other thing i can think of is you got a clog some were

worknprog.99 04-26-2009 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Caboose73 (Post 456939)
hmm thats weird well after you get that gauge you will be able to tell if its just your gauge messing with you or if its a real problem. and if you get the gauge and it reads hot then the only other thing i can think of is you got a clog some were


a clog is what i was thinking, i was going to flush and go to green anyways soon so mabye if a clog is the problem it will go away...

Nate's Alero 04-26-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 457005)
a clog is what i was thinking, i was going to flush and go to green anyways soon so mabye if a clog is the problem it will go away...


lolclog.....how many miles?

worknprog.99 04-26-2009 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nate's Alero (Post 457007)
lolclog.....how many miles?


73500

Spilner521 04-27-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 456861)
im going with an hks bov for the turbo anyone else have one?

Yep, that's what I have. One of the better valves since it's impossible for it to leak boost. I like how it sounds when it dumps full boost pressure (25psi), but if you don't like the whistle when it dumps at part throttle, you can always take out the fin.

worknprog.99 04-27-2009 02:08 PM

i have seen multiple fin inserts for the hks that sound cool... do you have any video clips of yours?? im going to get one here soon but im interested to hear one on another alero;)

[ion] C2 04-27-2009 02:31 PM

All of his video clips are HORRENDOUS quality, unfortunately. :( Can't hear anything good whatsoever.

worknprog.99 04-27-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 457400)
All of his video clips are HORRENDOUS quality, unfortunately. :( Can't hear anything good whatsoever.


i will youtube some then lol
i will make sure my videos are good quality ;)

[ion] C2 04-27-2009 04:46 PM

Same, the day my setup goes on (Friday hopefully) I'll be getting video after tuning.

worknprog.99 04-27-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 457448)
Same, the day my setup goes on (Friday hopefully) I'll be getting video after tuning.


i wish mine would get done fast like that lol.

[ion] C2 04-27-2009 05:01 PM

I just decided to turbo a week ago too. :lol:

jrim 04-27-2009 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 457450)
I just decided to turbo a week ago too. :lol:


Who's doing your install?

worknprog.99 04-27-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 457450)
I just decided to turbo a week ago too. :lol:


its probably easier on a 4 cylinder though lol.

[ion] C2 04-27-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jrim (Post 457463)
Who's doing your install?

Uhm, me.

jrim 04-27-2009 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 457468)
Uhm, me.


Oh, your post implied it was being done by someone else. Hopefully it will pull the times out of your car that it's capable of because I know you've spent a hell of a lot of money on it.

[ion] C2 04-27-2009 06:07 PM

Friday's the day I have tentatively scheduled with Speed Industry to let me use their tools/lift and they'll be fabricating the downpipe.

xXManwhoreXx 04-27-2009 06:11 PM

get the mms downpipe, its a 2.5, and just extend it since the turbo will be in back of the engine just have a little extention welded in

worknprog.99 04-27-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by xXMahanXcorEXx (Post 457482)
get the mms downpipe, its a 2.5, and just extend it since the turbo will be in back of the engine just have a little extention welded in


the turbo will be sitting where the battery used to be.... im awaiting two flanges and my welder friend to be ready lol

guiguilandry 04-27-2009 08:42 PM

Here they are.... Hope it's all good for you...

worknprog.99 04-27-2009 09:50 PM

sending you another pm....

BlackJack 04-28-2009 07:46 AM

ok, I know this is probably a dumb question, but have you changed the sending unit for your coolant temp?

Also, if you go aftermarket temp guage, don't replace the stock one with the aftermarket sender. The computer needs input on your temp (via the stock sender) to calculate advanced modifiers on many things, to name a few: Fueling, transmission shift points/pressure, fan on/off times, etc.

Welcome to the land of the boosted, and good luck.

Also, I will confirm that the stock internals are not forged. The pistons and crank are both cast, and the rods are merely shot-peened, and even the cam is cast core. However, I've run as much as 18psi intermittently on completely stock internals, and finally blew a piston due to fuel starvation in an altitude change.

If you want forged, like the others said, go 3500 crank (~2,500 new, and will require retooling for crank position sensor), SBC 5.700" small journal forged rods (side clearanced) ~$300-400 w/2 extras, and a custom set of forged pistons (~$600-800 per set).

Sky's the limit (or your wallet, which ever empties first).

worknprog.99 04-28-2009 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackJack (Post 457637)
ok, I know this is probably a dumb question, but have you changed the sending unit for your coolant temp?

Also, if you go aftermarket temp guage, don't replace the stock one with the aftermarket sender. The computer needs input on your temp (via the stock sender) to calculate advanced modifiers on many things, to name a few: Fueling, transmission shift points/pressure, fan on/off times, etc.

Welcome to the land of the boosted, and good luck.

Also, I will confirm that the stock internals are not forged. The pistons and crank are both cast, and the rods are merely shot-peened, and even the cam is cast core. However, I've run as much as 18psi intermittently on completely stock internals, and finally blew a piston due to fuel starvation in an altitude change.

If you want forged, like the others said, go 3500 crank (~2,500 new, and will require retooling for crank position sensor), SBC 5.700" small journal forged rods (side clearanced) ~$300-400 w/2 extras, and a custom set of forged pistons (~$600-800 per set).

Sky's the limit (or your wallet, which ever empties first).


well i never checked that (head smack) but its at the shop now getting the coolent flushed and they would check why they dont work, i know the guy there, so hopefull i dont have to mess with that part anymore....

i dont plan on rebuilding the internals at the moment, seeing as im running low psi to start i should be ok, however come this weekend when we start to install things it will be very tempting to keeo buying things and putting them in.... this project should be done middle of may and waiting for tuning. reason it will take so long is i work alot and have college so limited time:cool:

kwhauck 04-28-2009 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 457646)
well i never checked that (head smack) but its at the shop now getting the coolent flushed and they would check why they dont work, i know the guy there, so hopefull i dont have to mess with that part anymore....

i dont plan on rebuilding the internals at the moment, seeing as im running low psi to start i should be ok, however come this weekend when we start to install things it will be very tempting to keeo buying things and putting them in.... this project should be done middle of may and waiting for tuning. reason it will take so long is i work alot and have college so limited time:cool:


i have a forged 3500 crank, i will sell you for $350 shipped......rollover car 4500miles on the motor when rolled.....

worknprog.99 04-28-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 457648)
i have a forged 3500 crank, i will sell you for $350 shipped......rollover car 4500miles on the motor when rolled.....


i may look into that in a few weeks;)
unless you sell it before then

kwhauck 04-28-2009 04:43 PM

i've had it for 6 months......

BlackJack 04-28-2009 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 457820)
i've had it for 6 months......


PM sent

Spilner521 04-28-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by worknprog.99 (Post 457383)
i have seen multiple fin inserts for the hks that sound cool... do you have any video clips of yours?? im going to get one here soon but im interested to hear one on another alero;)

The HKS isn't on the Alero :thumb: I'll see if I can get a video.

I had a couple short video clips of the Alero years ago, but Ion's right, they were pretty terrible quality, taken with a point and shoot digital camera on video mode.

worknprog.99 04-28-2009 10:28 PM

some stuff came todayy!!!
 
pic of the cooler and the turbocharger;)

[ion] C2 04-28-2009 10:31 PM

Why did you get such a tiny odd shaped intercooler?

And what brand turbocharger is that?

worknprog.99 04-28-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 457912)
Why did you get such a tiny odd shaped intercooler?

And what brand turbocharger is that?


the cooler looks strange in the pic it is 18in long it actually has n=more surface area than the 22 in i was going to get and the turbo is a t3 .63 trim 8 psi wastegate

[ion] C2 04-28-2009 10:39 PM

Ya, what brand turbochager?

worknprog.99 04-28-2009 10:48 PM

nothin special just something to get me going ibought it off a buddy i would have to go look. he lives near columbus ohio and gets alot of stuff new and used this is new. i think they sell it on ebay from cxracing or something like that... hopefully if all works out i can get the garret,

reason i didnt get it first was because i got this one at avery good price and didnt wanna spend 1400 and have it not work lol

[ion] C2 04-28-2009 10:57 PM

Ummmm.... eBay turbos tend to be unreliable. Meaning when that compressor wheels self destructs, all of those metal pieces get to go in your engine.

I picked up my Garrett freshly rebuilt and ported for $180.

worknprog.99 04-28-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 457924)
Ummmm.... eBay turbos tend to be unreliable. Meaning when that compressor wheels self destructs, all of those metal pieces get to go in your engine.

I picked up my Garrett freshly rebuilt and ported for $180.


where the hell did you find that?:ninja:

[ion] C2 04-28-2009 11:00 PM

You can find them all over for that price. It's a .48/.42 T3. It can only support around 300whp. But hell I know someone selling a GT3076R for $650.

NEVER use an eBay turbo unless it's on an engine you don't mind rebuilding when that turbo blows.

Caboose73 04-28-2009 11:01 PM

Or you can get a turbo from Hahn over at j-body


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