i guess it all depends on the one you get cause he has been running the same one as this at 19 psi for two years no problem... but i hear what your saying

Yep it's a gamble, some explode and destroy the engine the day it's run, some last for a couple years.

whats the main difference because i compared it side by side to a garret today(buddy has one on a mazda) and they look identicle

Materials quality... build quality... It's not like you're going to notice a massive problem just by looking at it... :huh:

true....

not to defend them 100 percent but they have good reviews and decent videos of there turbos

KKK has a fan club too. My point is that you will find good reviews and cool videos about a lot of things that are less than stellar.. for example, that 'hurricane' turbo intake or whatever it was.. you know, the thing with the fan on the end.

yeah thats true..... my friends is doing good tho,.. i would think even if the internal propeller fins blew out they would get blown through the exhaust not the engine?

if i could get my hands on a garret that cheap like ion i would buy it in a heartbeat

There's 2 impellers in a turbocharger..

And note that one side feeds INTO the engine. Thanks for pointing that out C2.

All it takes is 2nd rate workmanship, bad bearings, or oil coking or starvation, and the resulting bearing wear will create enough shaft play that the turbine and compressor wheel can (and probably will) both hit the insides of the housings. Bad ju-ju.

Wait, what am I talking about.....I have an ebay turbo....LOL.

It's been replaced once, for that very reason. So don't chance it, do it right.

you want a garret turbo, there are two here locally........i would be willing to get them and ship to you if you are interested....

Garret T3/T04E 50 trim with .50 AR and .68 exhaust, this thing is pretty much brand spanking new! It has just seen idles, no driving. I'm looking for $350

Then a no-name turbo that has been rebuilt by Blaast Performance with garret internals, it's a T3/T04E .57 trim with .50AR and .63 exhaust
looking for $150

i wouldnt mind the 150 one if you can get it....i need 2.5 in inner cooler outlet though is that what it has? cause my piping is 2.5in. and also is the wastegat already on ? because i dont know how to hook one on if it doesnt..

i completely understand all of what you guys are saying and yes i want to do it right the first time.. but i got to thinkin even if it did have the impellars go bad and blow to peices wouldnt they either go out the exhaust and the other wouldnt make it into the motor because there is a screen on the intake before the throttle body on the stretch with the MAFS....so i dont see it getting into the engine itself ...please correct me if im wrong tho guys im here to learn so i can do this project right lol

Dude.... research.

It doesn't matter what the outlet size on the compressor is. You use silicone adapters. You're custom making the manifold, why can't you simply use an external wastegate? If it doesn't have an internal "already on" just go external, it's much better...

Sure there's a screen but you'll get bits making it through.

thats what i mean is the external wastegate.. how does one get attached? i suppose i could go home and look at the one on this turbo tho to find out....

so you would go with the 150 dollar rebuilt with garret internals?
and how hard would putting on waste gate be if it doesnt already have one?

http://www.cxracing.com/

here is the website my buddy gets his stuff from. he assures me it will be ok especially at 8 psi... anyone ever heard of them? they seem to sell alot of stuff

That's the company that makes the intercooler I bought.

Turbos, I wouldn't trust them too much. Any < $200 new turbo is risky. Don't cheap out on the most important part of the setup...

You need to quit having people buy things for you or having "your buddy" do everything for you. Research for yourself and figure out what's best.

he got the turbo for 265 i got it less. because he buys in bulk....

upon doing research just now no reported problems have been reported with this turbo well taken car of and low psi.... engine ruining would be hard from the impellers going out according to our mechanics at my work... some online rports of blowing impellers apart only a small handfull harmed the car, this brand specifically was rated very high for off brand turbos, i mean its no garret or something like that but its also not some plastic "turbo any car " deal either lol..

i brought it to them to look at and evreything, and he said if an impeller blew you would notice and just stop the car but as far as anything sizeable enough to get into the motor would be very unlikely, our master technician had an off brand twin turbo setup blew one to peices running 22psi and his motor was unharmed.... not trying to be an aragant rooster or anything im just showing my research findings.;)

If I were doing this all over again, I'd by kwhauk's garrett he listed up there for $350. Without a doubt.

if i had 350 i would.... i can always upgrade later

If I had $650 I'd get spyhunter's GT3076R.

not to be arragant but i think comparing this turbo to say a garret is no different than say a honda to a chevy.... mixed opinions, one may be beter than the other in some cases others not,. all in how you treat it. since ion told me to do some research i spent time looking at the two online and varies other names and escept for minor things the main difference is origin of make and brand name... so like anything else moreless its popularity and manufacture name.... and how you treat it....

(not being a smat ass by researching it ion i just got curious about the differences of the two) lol

I'm not so thrilled with the turbo, but it's not my car, so good luck with it. Why did you get such a small intercooler? It's too tall. There's only going to be air flowing over the bottom 6" of the core. You should've got something shorter and wider.
Ion, sell yours get one of these! Good prices for good turbos :thumb:

are you turbo'ing a 2.4 or a 3400?

Um, I'm not...

My Alero has the 2.4 and it's been turbo'd for almost 4 years.

i was given the inter cooler lol im going to try and make it work ...

and nate's alero im turboing the 3400

While it's always cool to get free parts, you're better off selling that intercooler and getting one that will be more effective.

i dont think it will fit anywhere anyways lol.... however surface area to air is not as a big of deal as it may seem... now if none of the surface is showing thats not good, but if you have half or more hitting moving air the difference between a fully exposed cooler surface and partially exposed is not that noticabley different unless your trying to get the maximum everything and run strictly as a performer stand point...;)

but yeah i dont think its gunna even fit so using it to sell for another was already posibly in the plan lol

The surface area exposed to oncoming air is more of a big deal than you think. The part that isn't exposed isn't cooling the charge. If you have half the face showing on an already small intercooler, you effectively cut that intercooler in half, which makes it tiny. You'll want something that fills the bumper and exposes the whole core to oncoming air.

I don't know who you've been talking to...

....like i said it probably wont fit anyways/.

get an intercooler from a MK3 Supra, they are proven to be some of the best OEM intercoolers ever made.

or just buy one that fits. whatever floats your boat.

and as he said above you can compare chevy to honda, my CRX Si would toast the majority of the stock v8's

thats the plan. lol. this one will work i just went out and place fitted it and the amount of cubic inches exposed is barely less than the 22x5.5x2.5 one...due to amount that actually is exposed due to its thickness and width....however the longer one would look better probably but this one if i decide to use it the effectiveness will be darn close... this is backed up by measurements and math lol:p

lo:haha:

stats and timeslips of crx si, or :bs:

lol ..... there is a guy on my street that always races up and down the road in a crx and it sounds like he cut off the muffler and attached a folgers can to it lol

Yeah seriously....

ummmm.......