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zoL 08-28-2010 09:36 PM

Engine died...
 
What are my options? How much can I get an engine? Is there a better engine that can fit right on in? What else will I need? PCM or some shit? I think junking it is pretty shitty idea since I want to keep it, and I'd get shit for it. Or am I being insane and should I get rid of it? This is the only problem I've had. I haven't been dumping money into it for maintenance. I'm thinking a student loan will solve my problem. eff.

sleepyalero 08-28-2010 09:45 PM

gtp motor will fit in it

sleepyalero 08-28-2010 09:45 PM

gotta get the right year engine though ive seen it done... and its a pretty snug fit

cherrington17 08-28-2010 09:54 PM

what died in the motor?

zoL 08-28-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 553982)
what died in the motor?


Something about a piston something.

kwhauck 08-28-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 553976)
gtp motor will fit in it


stupid idea....


www.car-part.com

should be able to pick up a decent motor for $400-$700..........

it's a fairly easy weekend swap with a friend and a couple cases...

sleepyalero 08-28-2010 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 553992)
stupid idea....


www.car-part.com

should be able to pick up a decent motor for $400-$700..........

it's a fairly easy weekend swap with a friend and a couple cases...


it was just a thought..

cherrington17 08-28-2010 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zoL (Post 553983)
Something about a piston something.

stop letting nate near your car. :lol:

[ion] C2 08-29-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoL (Post 553983)
Something about a piston something.

www.howstuffworks.com

Nate's swapped his engine before just have him do it lol

zoL 08-29-2010 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 553995)
www.howstuffworks.com

Nate's swapped his engine before just have him do it lol


lol'd

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 553992)
stupid idea....


www.car-part.com

should be able to pick up a decent motor for $400-$700..........

it's a fairly easy weekend swap with a friend and a couple cases...


I don't post out of off-topic for a reason. I don't know shit about cars, believe me. If I tried to do it, the only thing I'd be swapping is a new pair of boxers.

Thank you for that site. I've seen it before and never really put it to use until now, but it does exactly what I need. Thank you again.

Alerojester 08-29-2010 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 553976)
gtp motor will fit in it


i had that idea then realized its more hassle then its worth

cherrington17 08-29-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by zoL (Post 553996)
lol'd



I don't post out of off-topic for a reason. I don't know shit about cars, believe me. If I tried to do it, the only thing I'd be swapping is a new pair of boxers.

Thank you for that site. I've seen it before and never really put it to use until now, but it does exactly what I need. Thank you again.


couple wire harnesses, handful of bolts. its easier then you'd think... your just too easily intimidated by mechanical equipment

Alerojester 08-29-2010 11:05 AM

List needed to change an engine: cherry picker, floor jack, jack stands, tape so if you want you can label where you got things from, and all the wrenches/sockets you'll need, a couple of buddies, some beer and a few hours.

cherrington17 08-29-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Alerojester (Post 554010)
List needed to change an engine: cherry picker, floor jack, jack stands, tape so if you want you can label where you got things from, and all the wrenches/sockets you'll need, a couple of buddies, some beer and a few hours.


and one buddy out of a bunch, who has done it before..... to direct traffic.

Alerojester 08-29-2010 11:30 AM

sorry cherry i forgot about the one who has done this before

wrestlingandrunning 08-29-2010 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 554009)
couple wire harnesses, handful of bolts. its easier then you'd think... your just too easily intimidated by mechanical equipment


truth

Caboose73 08-29-2010 02:35 PM

If you cant do it yourself just sell the shell cause its going to cost a fortune to have a shop do it.

heineck 08-29-2010 02:48 PM

take it to a local trade school. let students work on it. the labors free.

zoL 08-29-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Caboose73 (Post 554020)
If you cant do it yourself just sell the shell cause its going to cost a fortune to have a shop do it.


I hear that, but if I can get an '04 or '05 engine from a Grand Am or w/e with low miles for about a grand or cheaper and then have a shop do it for a grand. I really don't see the trade in value being vastly different as it's already pretty shit. I understand that it won't balance out putting 2k into the car if I were to trade it in at a later time. I think this way would be the cheapest short term solution for me to get me through the next few years until I start making bank.

Also, would the '05 engine from a Grand Am/Impala go in fine? Would they need to do some PCM shit or something or would it be just a plug and play type of thing? I would rather buy the engine and have someone install it than have a shop buy the engine and throw their little markup on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by heineck (Post 554021)
take it to a local trade school. let students work on it. the labors free.


I think enough kids have worked on my car for a lifetime. :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 554009)
couple wire harnesses, handful of bolts. its easier then you'd think... your just too easily intimidated by mechanical equipment


You're very correct sir. I'll get the balls someday, but I want to be financially sound before I start experimenting on cars like I did VCR's.

Redog 08-29-2010 04:59 PM

If you swap in a 3400 motor up to '05 I don't think you'll need to have anything reprogramed with the PCM. If the cam is different, which I doubt, that it where you'll have the problems (or if you have Cali emissions and the new motor doesn't or vice versa)

The difference in the GA and the Alero was the tranny gears.

If you're going to pull one motor and drop in another, you should be fine, the only problem I see is hooking up the tranny to the block ;)

cherrington17 08-29-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by zoL (Post 554031)
You're very correct sir. I'll get the balls someday, but I want to be financially sound before I start experimenting on cars like I did VCR's.


understandable.... but... electronics.. you fubar, its done. Machines.. you fubar something you take it apart and do it over again.

with engines... as long as it isn't started, and the fluids are fine, and the harnesses are connected. your fine. just trail and error.

zzyzzx 08-30-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zoL (Post 554031)
I hear that, but if I can get an '04 or '05 engine from a Grand Am or w/e with low miles for about a grand or cheaper and then have a shop do it for a grand.

I would rather buy the engine and have someone install it than have a shop buy the engine and throw their little markup on it.






That and if you let the shop buy you a new engine the whole thing will cost closer to $4000, or thereabouts.

Pacho 08-30-2010 10:11 AM

i have a 3400 engine in south jersey if your interested at all-but we're some distance aways i see

zoL 09-09-2010 06:17 PM

The closest GM Goodwrench place wants $6,000 for a remanufactured engine installed or $5,000 for a used engine installed. He said it costs about $2,000 for labor. Lol.

heineck 09-09-2010 07:52 PM

hahaha did u write him a check?

MotorCity 09-09-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by heineck (Post 554021)
take it to a local trade school. let students work on it. the labors free.


:haha: i am at one of those types of schools I do it all the time

heineck 09-09-2010 08:06 PM

me too. :ninja:

pimpalero2003 09-09-2010 08:18 PM

Just by my car complete then have extra parts lol

guiguilandry 09-09-2010 09:07 PM

and where did you seen it, I'm just curious... because other than me I've never seen one other ever... not even on the interweb and it will not bolt in and the dash won't work etc... etc...

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 553977)
gotta get the right year engine though ive seen it done... and its a pretty snug fit


zoL 09-11-2010 05:12 PM

Anyways, I guess I'm going to go to some local mechanic because it's bound to be cheaper than the $100 an hour that dealership wanted.

Also, when looking for used engines is there anything I should ask to make sure everything is all good besides the normal "does it run?" Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by heineck (Post 555266)
hahaha did u write him a check?


Lmfao, yeah.

Ryan from Ohio 09-11-2010 05:29 PM

mOST PLACES SHOULD BE ABLE TO START THEN ENGINE FOR YOU.

Sorry about the caps to lazy to retype it.

How much is your alero worth? Surely not $5-6,000?

kwhauck 09-11-2010 10:20 PM

buy one with a warranty, usually it is a 6 month 6000 miles warranty, gives things a little time if the junkyard motor is bad...

[ion] C2 09-11-2010 10:41 PM

If you buy an engine through AutoZone's EverDrive program, they come with 3 year full warranties and typically cost $1500-ish.

pimpalero2003 09-11-2010 11:48 PM

Or buy my car lol. Take engine and trans and parerga rest then scrap it! Keep the seats though comfy as all hell


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