The Flowmaster is starting to feel it's age and rot. Time for a new 1 in 2 out. Not looking for a whole 3400 cat-back just a good sounding muffler, nothing ricey. What's the concensus for a similar muffler but a bit more "toned down" than the 80 series Flow.

Also, anybody with duals and the Razzi rear have the cut out measurements? Center-to-center plus actual opening width would be helpful. Even more helpful if you want to sell it to me :beerchug:

SLP

SLP for sure

u guys nuts? he said he wants a more TONED DOWN muffler from the 80 not a louder one.

u guys obvioulsy havent heard the 2 to be able to compare them.

embe.......... 40 series flowmaster is not as loud and doesnt drown as much as the 80.

ive heard a magnaflow muffler befor and that sounded pretty good to.... again not quite as loud as teh 80.

slp is about the loudest non coffee can muffler u can put on your car though

i dunno sweet...i heard nick's slp and i think my magnaflow is louder.

Hey Sweet a 40 series is louder then a 80s serious if you want quiet just buy a Turbo Muffler

40's are not louder than 80's....... i have a 40 and joel has an 80 and his car is way louder espically when driving.

i think slp and magnaflow are about on par. but slp has a rather "ricey" sound to it imo

Slp is the Best SoundingMuffler out there You and that Would ricey :thumb:

english usually helps bro

Its just funny How you like using that word "ricey" Describe the Word?

its funny how you support SLP as being the only decent muffler or exhaust setup to have on our cars because thats what you have.

ya slp has a much raspier sound. similar to that as a coffee can muffler.

it would make sense that u have the slp though..... then u have that ricey sound with your ricey carbon fiber vinyle covered mirrors ;)

Learn how to spell Vinyl not vinyle I dont have slp on my car i have a 40 Series flowmaster soon to change to SLp

Do you think this sounds like rice http://videos.streetfire.net/search/Slp/1/...EC19D9118BB.htm

my 4-banger sounds like that at idle, but sounds ricetastic when I rev it. why don't you rev it so we can judge you better. lol

Back when I installed my exhaust there wasn't much out there on Alero's to compare it to, so I took a chance with the Flowmaster. I can't even remember if Molson had his exhaust at the Windsor meet back then. :alcoholic: I know SLP has a reputation for being Raspy and last I heard they were only available in a cat-back. I'm looking just for a replacement muffler, transverse, single in-dual out. Exhaust has a noticeable difference in sound between the 4 bangers and the 3400. Even a link to a good thread would help.

You could use these guys www.jonesexhaust.com Ive heard alot of good stuff about them

that doesnt sould like rice but that dude has his heads done along with prolly a cam and alot of other stuff and its a 3800......... so u cant compare that to the way the slp sounds on a stock 3400

a single 40 series is probably louder than an 80, but dual 40s is def quieter.

could always do the GA borla cat back. it sounds good. not loud and raspy

that doesnt sould like rice but that dude has his heads done along with prolly a cam and alot of other stuff and its a 3800......... so u cant compare that to the way the slp sounds on a stock 3400
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IMHO, a 3400 will sound better than a 3800 in all occasions! the V6/60 sound just sounds better.

dude, have you ever heard ANY 3800 from intense racing? a 3400 will never sound like that. ever. the white GTP dyno ranks up there in my top 10 best sounds.

At Windsor, I had the Dynomax SuperTurbo camaro style. keep in mind I have the 2.4 I now have a Imco 1 in 2 out. (Imco = flowmaster without the name)

dude, have you ever heard ANY 3800 from intense racing? a 3400 will never sound like that. ever. the white GTP dyno ranks up there in my top 10 best sounds.
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Well, post a link to a sound clip then. I've heard one 3800s that sound nice at idle, but none on acceleration. Then again that's totally personal opinion. Heck, aside from the turbo sound, even the old 3.8s (like the GNs) just sound bad to me, as well as the 4.3s and about any 90° V6. I honestly like the way my 3400 sounds, albeit a bit loud. I've had many people tell me it sounds like a much larger engine.

true, i mean, you wont find an intense 3800 without a turbo, otherwise they wouldnt be running from 9's to 12's in the quarter.

but the WOT sound of the 9 second GP is amazing, the idle isnt too great.

as for the 3400, idle sounds great, but WOT isnt all that great.

http://www.intense-racing.com/video/...ecord_Dyno.wmv

any FWD sedan that can run 9's in the quarter is fine by me, and it's said that they'll be in the 8's later this year. for a huge beast like the grand prix, that's pretty impressive.

and yea, i realize i'm comparing the 3400 to a race built engine, but if you want to get real technical, no american v6 has ever really sounded good.

now a european 6 cyl, that's a different story.

Not to get too far off topic, but i don't think you can really tell what that GP sounds like if it has the hoses hooked up to the exhaust. On the other hand, I kinda liked the big-cam idle. Turbos do sound good though. European 6-cylinder cars usually tend to all sound fairly similar for the most part, usually really smooth and refined. Same with some japanese engines.

Figure this for a built 60°V6 (not a 3400, but a hybrid engine with the iron heads) for the sound 3rd through 5th inside the car.. http://www.turboz24.com/Files/Exhaust_1.wav

Based on the responses, I considered picking up an Intense GP, but ended up going with the Magnaflow due to budget constraints.

First start up I wasn't even sure it turned over that's how quiet it seems compared to the Flow. Give it a couple weeks to break in and it might get close, but the interior resonance is next to nothing. Outside still sounds good though. I wish I took some before & after sound clips but the rotted Flow was so noisy it sounded like a helicopter was landing on my trunk.

WRX with exhaust has got to be one of the better sounding "non raspy" imports I've heard.

The WRX sound is inherent to the Horizontally opposed engine as far as i know. Raspy isn't all that bad... even dragsters are raspy.

I even found a clip of my 3400 exhaust before i added another muffler (there was a flange leak too)

http://home.comcast.net/Cliff_Scott/Exhaust.mp3

R32 > VR6 > WRX > VQ > All other imports

edit: and by imports i mean affordable sport/compact/sedans

edit2: and by VR6, i specifically meant 12V VR6, not the 24V, but the 24V is nice too :)

Now for some reason I love the G35 and/or FX45 sound, it's unique. And for the "affordable" part, and keeping somewhat on-topic for this forum, the Ecotec does have a nice smooth refined sound to it. Even the Twin-Cam can sound nice if you put the right exhaust on it (Like Oldsman's). Then again, more totally subjective stuff here.

On another note, I picked up a new muffler for the Alero, for some reason I don't think the pace car muffler is going to last all that much longer (cheap construction), It wasn't really designed for every day use anyways.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/C5-Corvette...sspagenameZWDVW

I should have asked for my muffler(s) back both times. They probably ended up being re-sold (how about a rusty muffler for that rusty firebird?).