to good to be true
 

while looking through the j-body classifieds i found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=200227430017

is there any way to tell if these are the real deal???

The casting numbers are correct so I would think they are the right ones.

they're all over the place for that price. of course it's real. secret cams are posted up on j-body classifieds almost every day for $100

Yeah it's really not that expensive to do the cam swap, and it's pretty beneficial.

the problem with the cam swap is the difficulty of installation. all the timing components need to be removed when installing the cams. it can get fishy if you don't know what you're doing, but by all means.....

How do you know the right position for the cams when you put the chain back on? I always wondered that. I guess screwing your valves is not something you want to happen...

there's markings and i have an engine overhaul manual that tells you how to do everything if you want it lol

Usually you put the motor at top dead center and there should be marks on the cam gears which you line up so they are pointing at each other and it should turn right on. I am just speakign in general for motors I have no idea if the cam sprockets are marked on the 2.4.

what the cam swap does? gives more hp? i'm rebuilding my blown engine so i'm thinking maybe geting them if it does something :) sorry i'm a noob on engines don't know anything about them :P

then maybe rebuilding is a bad idea.

i'm not the one who is rebuilding my macanic is :) now i'm just looking for the parts and ect... :P

Is that a new slang for Mechanic? haven't heard that one before...

native language != english

if you put high performance cams in, dont you have to change other stuff too..... you cant just put the cams in and say....ok, im done. lol

thanks guys for the reply..i just wanted a second opinion, i didn't wanna end up with the stock cams or get screwed over.



it wont be that bad because the timing chain snapped so i'm gonna replace the chain, head, water pump and cams all at the same time.

a tune would be nice but nope

If you're rebuilding and you're having a Mech do it. Go for the secret cam swap and get it all covered now. Instead of having to pay to have someone go back in and do it later.

Do it man!

when you put your exhaust, you put it on your car and said: "Ok im done" I suppose.

High performance cams are only more aggressive cams.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft1.htm

the cams are a nice swap, i did it to my cavalier and also did the 2.3 throttle also and bump the fuel pressure about 5 psi more to compensate for the low end loss and OMG this thing was crasy fast, S&^% i even got better gas mileage.
this pic was with just the HO throttle and the cams.
http://b6.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/0...27970326_l.jpg
this pic is with the ho maifold, throtle, cams and bumped the pressure up 5 psi.
http://a442.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...871aa8c821.jpg

i never would of thought of bumping up the fuel pressure a lil bit..how did you do it FPR or HP Tuners??

hmmm learning alot of interesting and new things

Yes, you can swap just these cams in and say "I'm done". They're said to give you an extra 15-25hp depending on other mods. For $100 you can't beat it.

How do you know where the timing chain goes on the cam sprockets? Easy, use a white paint marker and mark the chain and sprocket in the same place. When you put everything back together, line up the marks. Done.

sounds like i really should look into swapping the cams while the head's apart eh?

just curious, how does the cams swap make the car sound? does it lope? my other car is a WS6 so im really a V-8 guy but for that kind of performance gain for $100 i might be interested

It won't really lope unless you go with W41 (or custom ground) cams and at that it will require some machining work and most likely some tuning to get it to run good. I wouldn't recommend W41 cams on an automatic unless you really want to punish it revving to 7400.

it is actually pretty easy...........there are dowel pin holes in the cam gear and timing chain housing.

what i did was put motor at TDC on cyl #1 and then used dowel pins to lock it all in then install timing chain.

it lopes a little put nothing compared to a V-8