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SittinOnChrome 02-11-2009 01:17 PM

LEAK PASSeNGER SIDE FLOOR
 
Ive been having problem with the passnger side floor being wet ever since I moved to my new apartment with no car port. I guess I never noticed it before. I searched all the threads and Im not sure what to do. I did replace the water reflectors on the passenger side and still have the problem. The door seals seem to be in perfect shape. Any suggestions? I dont know if it the door is out of adjustment. Do we need to put some kind of grease on our door seals I read about that as well. Should I poke holes in my door seals? I guess gm designed our cars for everyone living where it never rains.






AGT 02-11-2009 01:20 PM

Does the door close smoothly? Have you verified where the water comes in? Could be the door seal up top

cherrington17 02-11-2009 01:22 PM

it looks like thats where mine commonly leaks air... so its quite possible.

SittinOnChrome 02-11-2009 01:23 PM

yes the door closes smoothly and there is no gaps that are visible I cant tell where the water is coming in at

cherrington17 02-11-2009 01:27 PM

well.. where it is on the fuse panel door.. its dripping straight down. so straight above that, is where its entering.

just gotta find if there is a place further back in the weatherstripping that its coming into that space from.

try the bdyman method, of putting a dollar bill in the door jam w/ it closed, and pull it out. if it comes out really easy, its not a tight seal.

CactusWill 02-11-2009 01:29 PM

Take the rain guards off for awhile and see if it still leaks. And don't poke holes in the rubber seals, if you want to lubricate them use dielectric grease.

surreal_awakening 02-11-2009 02:12 PM

I've got the same leak unfortunately. Need to get that resolved before she goes back together. I've got different weatherstripping to go in, so hopefully that will fix it, but if not, I'll have to find another reason for the leak. Keep this thread updated.

billytheman1188 02-11-2009 02:17 PM

What you need to do is get some chalk (special stuff for checking leaks). put it on the weatherstrip around the door and close the door. you will see where the door is touching the strip and where its not. If that doesnt work too good then get a hose and run it over the door for a few minutes. then go check where the most water is and go on from there

SittinOnChrome 02-11-2009 02:26 PM

I notice the seal on the top of the door itself is coming off the door Im going to silicone it back together this might be the problem thanks guys

cherrington17 02-11-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billytheman1188 (Post 428820)
What you need to do is get some chalk (special stuff for checking leaks). put it on the weatherstrip around the door and close the door. you will see where the door is touching the strip and where its not. If that doesnt work too good then get a hose and run it over the door for a few minutes. then go check where the most water is and go on from there



essentially... you need to submerge your car in water... and then, while sitting inside, find out what leaks where. :lol:


and different weatherstripping?? they make different types!?

lonnie 02-11-2009 02:30 PM

I thought the last time a member had that problem it turned out to be the weather stripping around the windshield....Oh well! Let us know if that solves the problem so we can all make note.

A leak by the fuse panel is serious to say the least.

surreal_awakening 02-11-2009 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 428830)
and different weatherstripping?? they make different types!?


:haha: nah...by different I mean I have replacement weatherstrip, in grey, to match the new interior going in the car.

cherrington17 02-11-2009 02:39 PM

ohh. i was gonna say... WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME! :lol:

our door frame/weatherstripping setup is horrible. bad design. :No:

CactusWill 02-11-2009 03:10 PM

Just take it to a DIY car wash, and make a deserving friend sit in the passenger seat while you pressure wash around that area of the car.

NickAlero2000 02-11-2009 03:40 PM

:lol: i like that one, make sure to film it when you do it though... :lol:

bdyman 02-11-2009 10:19 PM

i believe 02 and up the weather stripping had holes in them which aided in water draining, the methods dont really work i have fixed so many cars that were backyard fixed like the methods above, and wound up costing them more money to have it fixed right

for me i would do this

yes a dollar bill is the best method as you close the door put the bill between door and door opening, if its loose and slides right out all the way around 2 things.
1.door is out of adjustment
2. ya need new weather striping

so lets say the weatherstriping has been replaced but the dollar bill test failed, well allot of things you can do now
put the window down, grab hold of the door frame and slowly and moving along the frame bend the frame, each time you bend back test the door, if it still fails now adjust the striker in a tad bit, if it still failed

bend the door frame some more, should be problem solved

cherrington17 02-11-2009 10:23 PM

how do you adjust the striker?

bdyman 02-11-2009 10:31 PM

look on the c-pillar should be 35-40 torx head, loosen the bolts, just a bit ya can hit it with a hammer so ya dont loose the height of the striker, and move it in, re tighten, if that doors POPS its to far in back it back out a tad bit

doors usally have a small pop, dodge doors have a huge pop, gm likes to keep it rather unnoticable

cherrington17 02-11-2009 10:34 PM

so moving it into the door, would help?

bdyman 02-11-2009 10:39 PM

yes pushing the striker plate in, not pulling it out which will casue it not to seal at all, so push it in towards the inside of the car

cherrington17 02-11-2009 10:42 PM

hmm.. i'll have to try that. wouldn't that be in our B pillar, not C?

C pillar, i thought, was back near our rear window?

bdyman 02-11-2009 10:52 PM

on a 4 door it goes like this
a-pillar/b-pillar, c-pillar, d-pillar or sail panle
2 door
a-pillar/b-pillar, c-pillar

and its a DOOR FRAME APPLIQUE, NOT B-PILLAR

cherrington17 02-11-2009 10:53 PM

ah. gotcha.

99alerogirl 02-11-2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 429003)
ah. gotcha.


psh, noob.

worknprog.99 02-11-2009 11:19 PM

if you have a sunroof its the right sunroof drain....i had that same thing a while ago...
before you disagree heres the story...
the sunroof drain leaks into the headliner edges runs down the plastic panel and into the door jam as shown in your pics.
it got my fuse box wet and blew the fuses..... just try and see by pooring water into the drain to see if it comes out if not theres your problem;)

Gr1m 02-12-2009 08:25 AM

i would try to cover up that passenger fusebox, if you short that your gonna have even bigger problems

worknprog.99 02-12-2009 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gr1m (Post 429067)
i would try to cover up that passenger fusebox, if you short that your gonna have even bigger problems


yes thats what i did until i fixed it i laid a cloth over the fuse box and put the cover back on.

meadus101 02-15-2009 03:37 PM

I'd probably wrap it in Plastic and A tape that won't ruin your dash, with the cloth still inside.

zzyzzx 02-27-2009 02:12 PM

Are you sure it's coming in through the door. On my Escort I had the exact same problem, and it was coming in through the HVAC intake. On most cars there is a drain hole though the fender (inside part you can't see) where the water from your windshield runs off to. Over time leaves, pine needles get in there and it becomes a small composting pile that clogs up the drain hole. Cleaning it out solves the problem.

SittinOnChrome 03-01-2009 12:45 PM

Update. Finally a semi-warm sunny day in Ohio so I adjusted the striker like body man said and greased the weathstripping with dielectric grease. Now we wait for the rain.
I'll let you know if this fixes the problem.

cherrington17 03-01-2009 01:32 PM

dielectric grease! thats what i remember hearing you can use on the stripping...

THANK YOU!

SittinOnChrome 03-26-2009 08:26 PM

Update this leak ended up being my winshield seals. All i did to fix was apply some 3M adhesive sealer under the winsheld seal and its fixed finally. The water was coming in at both top corners.

xstrong4lifex 03-26-2009 08:27 PM

I had the same problem but on my drivers side.

dbailey 04-07-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SittinOnChrome (Post 446149)
Update this leak ended up being my winshield seals. All i did to fix was apply some 3M adhesive sealer under the winsheld seal and its fixed finally. The water was coming in at both top corners.


When you say windshield seals, where are those? Mine is leaking on the passenger side too but intermittently. :(

SittinOnChrome 04-27-2009 06:42 PM

I ended up having to get the whole windshield replaced. It cost me 171 dollars went through Guardian Glass came with a no leak warranty. The good thing is they came out to my work place and replaced it in the parking lot which I thought was pretty cool.

CactusWill 04-27-2009 07:56 PM

Ok... But was the glass actually cracked or broken?

SittinOnChrome 04-29-2009 01:30 PM

no the glass wasnt broken or chipped just the seal was bad but they had to replace the glass supposedly they just cant reseal the glass without breaking it

surreal_awakening 04-29-2009 01:38 PM

If that was the case, you'd never be able to go to a junkyard and get a windshield. Sounds fishy to me.

SittinOnChrome 04-29-2009 01:42 PM

Yeah they said they can try to replace the seal but 9 times out 0f 10 the glass ends up breaking. I just thought screw it.... its only 171 bucks. Oh well the money is spent now.


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