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99alerogirl 03-23-2009 12:26 AM

engine teardown!
 
soooo i've been working a lot on this engine, and i'm down to the meat and patata's. almost fell and busted my head open trying to get the LIM off... more than a little force was necessary. i was lifting the entire engine off the stand and it still wasn't coming off, but alas, it released. and here's the beauty i found after removing the heads....




yes, that is a LOT of antifreeze in cylinder 5... lovely.




and more... prettyyyyy.




and some of the lovely parts i took off :)



yay!! now i need a torque wrench......

heineck 03-23-2009 12:33 AM

nice, a chick whos not car retarted j/k what are your plans? S/C?

99alerogirl 03-23-2009 12:35 AM

i'm not sure yet... just tearing it down. this is the spare one i bought for $75. as soon as i save up the money, probably in a few weeks, i'll be sending in the UIM and LIM to get ported and polished, i'm also getting a new TB at the same time!

heineck 03-23-2009 12:37 AM

cool, i wish i had a spare :(

Bad99Olds 03-23-2009 12:38 AM

sexy. engine looks nice too.

Vinalero 03-23-2009 02:29 AM

Nice lill lake in that cylinder :lol:

Good luck with the build :)

dragon8807 03-23-2009 02:36 AM

good luck with the build

wish i had a spare too:(

jackal2000 03-23-2009 08:41 AM

you dont need a torque wrench for tear down.

cherrington17 03-23-2009 08:48 AM

she will for the rebuild though. there isn't too much more she can "tear down".

you'll probably need 2 torque wrenches. i'd get a cheap one that does a decent range of ft/lbs and then a good one that does low in/lbs.

99alerogirl 03-23-2009 09:10 AM

yeah sorry, didn't mean for tear down... but yeah... after i got here i just kinda sat and looked at it. and then left. haha, i was like uhhhh. and that stupid accessories bracket or whatever is getting in my way, but one of the bolts is like... terrible.

cherrington17 03-23-2009 09:39 AM

i'd imagine getting a good torque on it would be harder when its just free standing.

having the thing bolted to 2 tons of other metal/rubber makes it easier for engine to NOT move. :lol:

kwhauck 03-23-2009 10:26 AM

not really, most engine stands lock into place so you have no problems....

99alerogirl 03-23-2009 10:32 AM

yeah right now it's just on a crate on a trailer we brought it home on. we haven't had enough people to move it, and I got ancy :(

kwhauck 03-23-2009 10:34 AM

well with just the block now, you should be able to lift it into place yourself and bolt it to an engine stand......

99alerogirl 03-23-2009 10:40 AM

just have to share a funny comment my 15 year old sister made the other day..

"oooh when you get it back together we should put it in that car in the garage!"


she was referring to the 1969 GTO. I was like yes tiff, that would be a brilliant idea!!!! not.

kwhauck 03-23-2009 11:08 AM

that would be sweet, hahah, if i can find pictures, i know in denver there is a porchse with a 3400 in it.......i know cuz my old togs are on it......

Cliff8928 03-23-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 444143)
that would be sweet, hahah, if i can find pictures, i know in denver there is a porchse with a 3400 in it.......i know cuz my old togs are on it......


That could be a definte improvement on a 912, 914 or 924.

clutch1 03-23-2009 12:49 PM

You should put ported/ polished 3500 heads and UIM/LIM... that would be tight. The 3500 UIM is aboslutely massive, I think you'd be pleased with it.

99alerogirl 03-23-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by clutch1 (Post 444187)
You should put ported/ polished 3500 heads and UIM/LIM... that would be tight. The 3500 UIM is aboslutely massive, I think you'd be pleased with it.


how hard is that to do? i mean obviously after you buy the parts... does everything fit nicely?

Ryan from Ohio 03-23-2009 12:52 PM

You tearing it completely down?

may as well...

My dad said the biggest improvement he seen off building a motor was having the pistons balanced.

He just (last spring) rebuilt his motor into a 327 for his 69 Z28.

Cliff8928 03-23-2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 99alerogirl (Post 444188)
how hard is that to do? i mean obviously after you buy the parts... does everything fit nicely?


There's a slight amount of modifying, but nothing terrible. WOT-Tech sells most of what you'd need for that.

99alerogirl 03-23-2009 11:46 PM

what's having the pistons balanced? some of the pistons look to be rusting on top, correct me if i'm wrong and that's not possible. especially in cylinder 4... there was a lot of water in it, can't really see it well in the picture though.

kwhauck 03-24-2009 12:02 AM

build for boost with new pistons......and get the entire assembly balanced.....

99alerogirl 03-24-2009 12:02 AM

what does balanced mean?!?!?!

[ion] C2 03-24-2009 12:06 AM

means like, taking off material from the rods and crankshaft in places to make everything balanced as it spins

99alerogirl 03-24-2009 12:08 AM

hmmmm ok.... hahahahhaa

Bad99Olds 03-24-2009 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 99alerogirl (Post 444518)
hmmmm ok.... hahahahhaa


its like when your drunk and take off certain articles of clothing to make aerodynamics and balance more easily attained. atleast thats how u perceived it at the time.

99alerogirl 03-24-2009 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad99Olds (Post 444522)
its like when your drunk and take off certain articles of clothing to make aerodynamics and balance more easily attained. atleast thats how u perceived it at the time.


OH ok.

WhiteV6 03-24-2009 12:17 AM

That isn't balancing the pistons though. Balancing the rotating assembly is where you match each piston and rod to each other, and the crank to this weight. Anything that bolts to the crank can also be included to get the balance set.

This makes the engine run much smoother, which will help everything from durability to peak RPM potential, power output, and efficiency.

You should drain the coolant and spray the cylinders down with WD 40 after the water is removed. Rust in there is not good.

Ryan from Ohio 03-24-2009 09:21 AM

Crankshafts are balanced at the factory. I used to be an engineer at such a facility. (LS7 baby!).

Ok they are balanced, but there is a balance SPEC. The truth about balancing is theres nothing perfect. I can spin the same crankshaft up and have different readings every time...

Bad99Olds 03-24-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan from Ohio (Post 444629)
Crankshafts are balanced at the factory. I used to be an engineer at such a facility. (LS7 baby!).

Ok they are balanced, but there is a balance SPEC. The truth about balancing is theres nothing perfect. I can spin the same crankshaft up and have different readings every time...


i just got sexually excited thinking about the ls7. not as cool as the ls9 or lsa, but damn is it close.

cliffordwoeller 03-24-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 99alerogirl (Post 444530)
OH ok.


I love how the examples you have to use for her to get the picture.lol :haha:
its all good I need good examples to understand things also, if you can relate it to xes then I will def get it then lol :scpimp:

Bad99Olds 03-24-2009 09:45 AM

haha yea, because you watch that much porn.

Ryan from Ohio 03-24-2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad99Olds (Post 444631)
i just got sexually excited thinking about the ls7. not as cool as the ls9 or lsa, but damn is it close.


Among the LS7 we also did the Viper, GT40 and Hummer cranks. The sister company specializes in cranks for drag racing, Callies High Performance.

We made a few different prototypes for GM closely related to the LS7. Most of them had a little les stroke- Im assuming for Turbo ;)

Bad99Olds 03-24-2009 09:50 AM

mmmm, less stroke. that gives me a boner too. god im a walking erection this morning. this international relations exam apparently cant kill my sex drive.

cliffordwoeller 03-24-2009 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad99Olds (Post 444639)
haha yea, because you watch that much porn.

lmao hey there is nothing wrong in my mind of a healthy dose of porn, sex,girls or anything else of the nature

Ryan from Ohio 03-24-2009 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bad99Olds (Post 444643)
mmmm, less stroke. that gives me a boner too. god im a walking erection this morning. this international relations exam apparently cant kill my sex drive.


I was wrong. looks like they went supercharged...
http://smallblockscreensaver.com/images/X09PT_EP047.jpg

I dont follow these things...

Bad99Olds 03-24-2009 10:49 AM

its ok, forced induction is forced induction at the end of the day. lol. this is a predominant reason my next car is going to be the most recent gen of cts-v, becase that ls-a is just too effing sexy. corvette perormance with cadillac luxary? SOLD!

kwhauck 03-24-2009 11:54 AM

i concur, i want a cts-v for my next project car something fierce....

hennessey cts-v

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd5lx0PUkGY


Bad99Olds 03-24-2009 12:19 PM

i mean the lsa is a detuned ls9, so you wait till the zr1 guys get rid of their parts, or untill there is an aftermarket, and you can squeeze some crazy ponies out of that bad boy.


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