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[ion] C2 05-08-2009 11:16 PM

Goodbye..
 
.. to the supercharger. Finished this shit at 4AM this morning. I was at Speed Industry since 4PM last night (and every day this week, but starting last Friday).









Fabricating the downpipe.






Yeah, I still need to get a reducing elbow silicone coupling so I can hook up an air filter.








The rusty metal coolant hose is leaking where it goes into the plastic housing. I don't think it's in straight, or the o-ring is crooked, etc. What a bitch. Spews/sprays coolant, causing air leaks in the system and making me run hotter than I should. Gotta get it fixed before I can tune anything at higher throttle.




EDIT: I know what to do about the BOV.
Original: The BOV doesn't seem to be working, all I hear is compressor surge no matter what looseness/tightness I do with the nut.

My throttle body's throttle plate or something is sticking. Throttle gets stuck at like 10% until I move it with my hand like 2 millimeters to the stopper it's supposed to hit when the cable's relieved of its tension. Lame. I lubed the shit out of the rotating piece and spring where the cable connects. Doesn't seem to really help that much. Probably need a new 62mm throttle body.

And of course I have to fix that stupid ass coolant line so I quit running so hot.

So far it sounds effing awesome. The spooling sound occurs like all the time. Once I fix that coolant line and get the tune dialed in, I'll be able to get some video for you guys.

Nate's Alero 05-08-2009 11:19 PM

dude, amazing, looks amazing

KenshinZero 05-08-2009 11:26 PM

Sweet, I was hopeing you would get pics up soon. cant waight to see the vid

DOHC_tuner 05-08-2009 11:38 PM

I'm proud you dropped the supercharger and installed a Garrett turbocharger. Now I can respect your setup.

Looks awesome! Just get a different design intake manifold and adjust that intake pipe accordingly. Straight pipe over the battery does not look good.

I hope the best for you with this setup.

cavaliers60 05-08-2009 11:48 PM

looks like that pipe is welded.... Looks good. I agree though. I don't like the way the pipes are run. Can't wait to see a video of her. :)

kwhauck 05-08-2009 11:49 PM

yeah piping looks pretty hoopty......i think you need a hood scoop with a direct intake...

[ion] C2 05-08-2009 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOHC_tuner (Post 461076)
Just get a different design intake manifold and adjust that intake pipe accordingly. Straight pipe over the battery does not look good.

The HO manifold (or a custom) will be coming soon... and the straight pipe is awesome. Less bends, less pipe. Straight and clean, none of this million angle bullshit. All business.
Quote:

Originally Posted by kwhauck (Post 461080)
yeah piping looks pretty hoopty......

So you'd rather it have 3 more bends to make it snake around the battery instead of going directly do the hole down?

Also I ran it open downpipe until I was able to get to Midas so they could weld the rest of the exhaust to it. Shit was LOUD. I sounded like a semi. Now it's super quiet... quieter than when it had the supercharger. And I even cut off the cat. When the wastegate opens it's loud like the open downpipe again. I'm going to have it routed to the exhaust, I hate the sound of atmospheric dump.

kwhauck 05-09-2009 12:01 AM

there you go misquoting me, i mean either lose the battery for an even better path, but the best would be a hood scoop like I said above with a direct path for intake...

maybe you will finally hit 13s..........lol

heineck 05-09-2009 12:25 AM

i like thaT FMIC looks clean

black00gt1 05-09-2009 12:31 AM

WHO NEEDS A BATTERY IN THE FROUNT LOLOLOL

looks good :)

AbHeLlRaZoR 05-09-2009 12:40 AM

wow, I did not see that one coming but I like it congrats.

GA_turbo 05-09-2009 04:08 AM

Do you have the BOV connected where the map goes or somewhere else, if its tee of the map you are fine, i cant see where all your vacume lines are hooked up. Also make sure the bov piston its not stuck, i didnt see anywhere on it that said greddy so im guessing is one of the ebay ones.

cherrington17 05-09-2009 07:21 AM

i don't even know anything about turbos... and even I know that piping is retarded. Come'on Ion, relocate the battery and clean that up!

Vic28 05-09-2009 08:01 AM

that things gonna start moving :dance1: I dont really like those clamps you got, t-bolt clamps ftw. hope they dont start popping off on you.

knuckleballer32 05-09-2009 08:19 AM

looks good. ive been waiting to see pics and its comin along nice. sorry to hear you are having trouble otherwise.

Gr1m 05-09-2009 08:41 AM

i would have relocated the battery into the trunk, other then that looks good

jrim 05-09-2009 11:24 AM

Now that's some plumbing :D

Cool ion.

01OldsAleroGt 05-09-2009 11:58 AM

thats a sexy bitch.... fix the extra shit and post some numbers !!!

[ion] C2 05-09-2009 08:33 PM

eff you all the piping stays as is. The battery should be in the front (for many reasons) and this is the best way to route it (mechanically, efficiently) and maybe it's your opinion that it doesn't look good but wait til I clean up the bay.... it's not even clean whatsoever and shit needs to be changed...

The blow off valve is connected properly.. I'm not retarded. It's not that hard. All of the vacuum ports are post-plate on the throttle body, so any work. It is tee'd off the MAP line though. It is a Greddy Type RS clone. I have read that the Type RS's have two springs in them and many people have issues with them not opening, and to fix it, they simply remove the cap and remove one of the two springs. I'll check it when I get back from Texas on Wednesday...

PappaSmurf 05-09-2009 09:25 PM

Chris,
I think that the piping is fine, it is more THERE because of performance than looks. What if you were to do an anoidized red pipe? I bet everyone would get off your back then and tell you how nice it looks. I WISH I had the knowledge (and finances) you have in order to turn my regular 4-banger into something like yours. AWESOME job!!!!
And thanks again for the info on the magnaflows.
-Smurf-

cherrington17 05-09-2009 09:29 PM

fine then.

eff you for NOT changing your piping to make it more streamline and performance oriented.

more bends = more turbulent air flow. I guarantee that if your battery was relocated, even being in the trunk, that your electrical signals will travel faster then the air in your intake. Not moving your battery because your stubborn and lazy makes less sense then it does to relocate it.

DOHC_tuner 05-09-2009 09:45 PM

Once you get different intake manifold the plumbing of the pipe will just flow with it.

meadus101 05-09-2009 09:58 PM

The pipe directly off the turbo looks like it's squat.

leoalero 05-09-2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 461082)
The HO manifold (or a custom) will be coming soon... and the straight pipe is awesome. Less bends, less pipe. Straight and clean, none of this million angle bullshit. All business.

So you'd rather it have 3 more bends to make it snake around the battery instead of going directly do the hole down?

Also I ran it open downpipe until I was able to get to Midas so they could weld the rest of the exhaust to it. Shit was LOUD. I sounded like a semi. Now it's super quiet... quieter than when it had the supercharger. And I even cut off the cat. When the wastegate opens it's loud like the open downpipe again. I'm going to have it routed to the exhaust, I hate the sound of atmospheric dump.


do you have pics of the downpipe??

itsbmw 05-09-2009 10:36 PM

Nice :) Help me supercharge my GP :)

[ion] C2 05-09-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOHC_tuner (Post 461220)
Once you get different intake manifold the plumbing of the pipe will just flow with it.

Indeed. Then the piping will be nicely curved around the battery. For the manifold have now, and what I want, this is the best option.
Quote:

Originally Posted by meadus101 (Post 461226)
The pipe directly off the turbo looks like it's squat.

It's cut weird. I need to get a new black one anyway.
Quote:

Originally Posted by PappaSmurf (Post 461214)
Chris,
I think that the piping is fine, it is more THERE because of performance than looks. What if you were to do an anoidized red pipe?

That's right, I'm wasn't concerned with visuals however almost everyone I know loves the way the pipes are (and Jan suggested it) and I wasn't about to wait even longer to get my car back so we could order some more pipes just to satisfy someone's love for unnecessary bends. I don't really like powdercoated charge piping. The polished is fine for now.
Quote:

Originally Posted by leoalero (Post 461243)
do you have pics of the downpipe??

I'll take some some other time... I was more concerned with getting my car running than taking pictures as Jan stayed past the shop closing hour of 10PM and stayed with me until it was completed at 4AM.

Bad99Olds 05-09-2009 10:58 PM

Looks awesome man. Glad everything is coming along great.

cherrington17 05-09-2009 11:14 PM

gimme less bends, or give me DEATH!

[ion] C2 05-09-2009 11:15 PM

Dude with or without the battery there, it's going the same direction, the pipe would just be angled downward... I tend to like everything straight and clean...

cherrington17 05-09-2009 11:21 PM

your engine... looks like a windows 98 screensaver.

Nate's Alero 05-09-2009 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 461261)
your engine... looks like a windows 98 screensaver.


:haha:

[ion] C2 05-09-2009 11:25 PM

gtfo my thread


heineck 05-09-2009 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 461267)



:haha: :haha: :haha:
:emotlol: :emotlol: :emotlol:

KenshinZero 05-09-2009 11:31 PM

:lol:

itsbmw 05-09-2009 11:32 PM

Oh god. not that screensaver

/self

cherrington17 05-09-2009 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 461267)
gtfo my thread



even you can't deny that was a good burn... :lol:

i'm done. hope you can get this one tuned/running better then the last one.

BlackJack 05-09-2009 11:53 PM

C2 this might be a dumb question on my part, but if the BOV won't kick, what size spring is in it (4psi, 6psi, 8psi, etc) vs. how much boost are you pushing? when I put mine together, same problem before I realized I had a 12psi spring in there and was only running 8psi boost.

[ion] C2 05-10-2009 12:09 AM

Yes, I discovered this BOV is designed for HIGH boost, lol. Supposedly all I need to do is remove one of the springs (It has 2 inside it) and it'll work great. I'll do that when I get back from Texas on Wednesday.

DOHC_tuner 05-10-2009 12:19 AM

I was thinking the same thing but wasnt sure

Spilner521 05-10-2009 02:00 AM

Looks good :thumb:

I'm not really a big fan of the pipe over the battery, but I like that it's a straight pipe instead of bending around the battery like mine. You could always turn the battery 90° and move it back to where the stock airbox was, then drop the charge pipe down a little. That would clean it up and make it look better. I do like the overall look of everything though.

The BOV...I know you were on a limited budget, but you would've been better of with an authentic valve instead of an eBay special. You probably wouldn't be having problems if you did. I'm sure you'll figure it out though.

Get an intake pipe and air filter on that thing!
Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJack (Post 461279)
C2 this might be a dumb question on my part, but if the BOV won't kick, what size spring is in it (4psi, 6psi, 8psi, etc) vs. how much boost are you pushing? when I put mine together, same problem before I realized I had a 12psi spring in there and was only running 8psi boost.

Blow off valves don't have springs set for certain boost pressures like in a wastegate. That's what the screw on top of an adjustable valve is for, to tighten it down if boost pressure is pushing the valve open. I've seen the Tial valves that have different springs you can choose from, but those are based on how much vacuum the engine pulls.


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