Meadus's Car is a POS.
 

So, My Alero won't start.

Last time, it was ice in the ignition, I won't make myself look like an idiot here again.



Got in (hasn't ran since thurs, in which in ran in a snow storm)

Turned the key, Waited for the Fuel pump to stop (sounds fine)
and turned it to start, it sounded normal. after 3 seconds I turned it back and the car just didn't catch.

turned to off, waited a second, turned to on, waited for the pump (again, sounded fine) and went at it again for another 3 seconds. nothing.

plugged in the block heater to warm it up and allow the car to start better. waited an hour, and nothing.

No lights except the ones that always come on when in the on position an the engine is off. no flashing lights, oil is fine, and about 1/4 tank of gas. who has some ideas?

turn it on, wait for the pump, turn it off. turn it on, wait for the pump, and just a second before the pump stopped humming, turn it over.

mine did that when my fuel injector orings were shot.

Thanks for the reply. Didn't work though.

video plz?

you have the 3.4?

hmm... could be nates dreaded head gaskets...

2.4 LD9.

I can make a video in the morning when it's light out.

What angles do you guys want me to record? Under the hood, from the drivers seat?

both plz...also under the car

I'll do those vids in the morning.

Anyone got ideas on other stuff i can look for too?

try to leave car in on position for a good 15-20 mins then crank it over. maybe your security light isn't flashing for some reason.

That's usuallly the cure for Passlock. Passlock will flash the security light. The fact that my security light isn't flashing but just staying lit and going away is what makes me indicate that it's not passlock.

how did you have ice in the ignition?

My guess is I dropped the keys in the snow the night before when i was on my way to the car, got up the next morning and the ignition was frozen solid. had to take a heat gun and blast it in there for a few minutes.

moveh?

I just woke up! I'm on my way out now. Gawd! hahaha.

Less than 20 minutes with the editing and uploading.

thanks mead, you can also give me a call, i think your canucks have U.S.A dialable numbers (never dialed one)

Appreciate the help. I run on a cell phone only and it'll cost me a fortune to call one of those weird formatted US numbers.


Pssst: they're exactly the same up here. (Canadians invented the Telephone :P)



Here's the Videos, Windows Movie maker was being a douche and wanted me to convert the videos first, so I uploaded the Raw shots to Youtube and said to hell with it.

Interior Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq5jl1u49r0

Under Hood and Behind Passenger Rear Tire - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u4pg5MrBnk


Like I said, 1/4 tank of gas, And I just added a Bottle of Gas Line antifreeze in case Moisture got in the tank and it's freezing up the lines.

cananadnanaa is a foreign country diptard. international rates apply to both customers.

well, i have free Int. calling.... dunno about him, and THAT was the best you could come up with!?!!? DIPTARD...... :emotlol:

ICM or coil packs?

He wants to talk....... not about cars tho.. ;)

mead, i can hear the pump spinning over.. and it's spinning over with no load, meaning it's not picking up gas... that's the sound mine makes when it's oput of gas, add gas and it will start..lol

There's gas in it!


Unless the gauge screwed up.


I swear to god if you're right, I deserve to be banned.

nate it sounds a lot like when your car did not start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhPwmj0s4AY

Put in 10 litres of Gas, on top of the 1/4 tank that was already in it.

Same results.

Who's next? haha

At 4:30 I'm gonna call the Local Shop here and a Tow truck, I'm out of ideas, I have to do something. I need this car back, I live alone and it's my only vehicle.

starter, headgaskets something like that.

Car is turning over fine so it can't be the starter, and All Fluid levels are fine, oil looks normal, No leaks on the ground under the car. I doubt it would be headgaskets.

ok check the spark plugs and injectors.

Called the Tow, He'll be by to pick it up in a bit.

I'll post up the issue when it comes back from the shop.

my guess... you have a mythological beast jumping around in your upper engine, blocking the proper air/fuel ratio, so it won't turn over.

This problem is usually caused by chupacabras

ok hope it does not cost much to fix.

I second this.

got fuel... fail, i'm sure it has oxygen, so, spark lol

maybe he got water in his fuel somehow? i would have put in some dry gas to see if that helped because water always sinks to the bottom..... has your SES light been on recently while driving?

either way, good luck with it.

Even with water in the fuel I'm sure it would try to start a bit... this is nothing, dead, done (sounds to me at least).

Did you actually check to see if it's getting fuel? Press the schrader (SP?) valve on the fuel rail and have someone crank the engine... should squirt out.
If you can, check the injector wiring (forget if it's easy to get to or not)... IIRC the Pink wire should have system on it, and the other wires give/takes ground... make sure those are working properly (if nothing else, check these at the PCM!!!!!)

If both of those tests pass, fuel is good to go.

Make sure you check spark (incase no one said that already).. if you haven't done it yet, DO IT!!!!! Grab a spark tester and make sure both coils are producing spark.

No spark? Chances are both coils didn't go out at once.

So. Make sure the ICM has power and ground (system on power and .0x volts on ground). Check the crank sensor wires (yellow and purple IIRC).. if you have a scope you should see a nice wavey pattern, if you don't have a scope, throw the MM on it and at least look for some voltage generated (in AC).. at least that will prove it's making voltage...

I don't remember if the IDIS has a cam sensor... but if it does, check that, too. If it's a pulse generator (2 wire) check it same at the CKP. If it's a hall effect (3 wire), make sure it has power, ground, and the signal wire is either producing a digital pattern (boxes on the scope), or at least some voltage.

That'll be a good place to start on the issue... don't waste your money at a shop if you can fix it yourself mannnn.

Looks like Cherry was right.

Shop called, they pushed it in and it started up perfectly.


He's blaming the fuel pump being on it's way out, I knew the price of it so I told him I'll chance it (Because it was spinning up) The Gas line antifreeze coulda taken longer to work too.

There was a knock in the front end, I assumed it was a tie rod, so he put it on the lift and the Coils on both side of the front are broken, as well as the mounts.

So I'm basically getting a new front end. which might explain why my 17's were rubbing last year, if those were worn.

Coils, Mounts, Possibly struts (280,000 on it. good chance struts.)

If it fails to start again I'll put a Rag in the tank and light it on fire. But the shop can't fix what isn't broken. He also tried to explain to me about passlock. then i told him the light wasn't on.

:yahoo:

eff'n chupathingy's... hate those pricks.

The gremlins are back!

It's drizzle and fog here today, So i'm thinking it has to do with the moisture in the air?

Maybe an exposed wire in a potentially get wet area? Check near the wheel wells or even where the hood release is because I know that I sometimes have water squirt in through there.

At least your fuel pump went at home. Try having to go when you are going 45 MPH :rolleyes2:

So Nate, let me guess. The fuel pump isn't working because the fuel in Canada is so could, but it doesn't crack the injectors, block, or manifold, it's a magical thing that knows to go right for the headgaskets and of course we all know that a bad headgasket will cause a car not to start. It will also cause boggers to dry up inside of your nose and you turds to come out sideways. Cracked head gaskets also cause Swine Flu :rolleyes2:

Clutch, Would you mind telling me what that valve looks like?