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cherrington17 02-27-2010 10:06 AM

Wheel Bearing bolts
 
The 3 bolts that hold the wheel bearing/hub in place...

how do you get them free? (after being rusted in place for about 4 years)

I coated both sides in lube. let it sit for 20 mins. coated again.. let sit overnight... coated again this morning, let sit for 15 mins... then just went to give it a try.

won't budge. even after hammering for 20 minutes... nada. Not even a little.


What now?

tomekbrek 02-27-2010 10:10 AM

Coca-Cola and hammer.... i had same problem, coca-cola resolved it ;)

cherrington17 02-27-2010 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomekbrek (Post 528754)
Coca-Cola and hammer.... i had same problem, coca-cola resolved it ;)


soaked...for how long?

soaked for 20 mins... 2 times. and hammered. won't budge still. I guess the only thing left is to use a torch... which i don't have.



hooray for the rust belt... making car impossible to work on, since... ever.

Alerojester 02-27-2010 12:34 PM

have you tried PB blaster and do you have an impact? those are two things that we used to get them off my wifes old sunfire

heineck 02-27-2010 12:57 PM

Yea cherry wat are u using just a reg ratchet? Use a breaker bar and an impact socket, or an impact wrench

BlackJack 02-27-2010 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 528751)
won't budge. even after hammering for 20 minutes... nada. Not even a little.


What now?


Bring to me. BlackJack fix.

I told the last guy that I was sorry for tearing his entire front strut off.

cherrington17 02-27-2010 12:58 PM

no impact. :glare:

PB isn't working.

colonel6632 02-27-2010 01:15 PM

i used an impact. but a torch would work. even the little propane ones if you sat there long enough might work

kwhauck 02-27-2010 01:16 PM

i used a 4ft piece of pipe on mine, but another option, which I've done before......

cheap deap well socket weld a 1 foot piece of pipe, hold sockets on and hammer like hell the other end of the pipe....

sfi3400 02-27-2010 01:19 PM

you could do is get a v8 attach a rope to it and BAM

sif3400 is not responsible if you do this stupid stunt and is not liable for any injuries to you or your car:).

cherrington17 02-27-2010 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sfi3400 (Post 528781)
you could do is get a v8 attach a rope to it and BAM

sif3400 is not responsible if you do this stupid stunt and is not liable for any injuries to you or your car:).


attach a rope to what!? its a bolt in the wheel bearing... do you even know what the wheel bearings look like on this thing!?

sfi3400 02-27-2010 01:36 PM

yes i was jokeing, because mine have came right off before.

AbHeLlRaZoR 02-27-2010 02:03 PM

Try the coca cola trick then use a breaker bar or impact wrench like heineck said..

Afugy 02-27-2010 02:05 PM

Have you tried heat, don't heat the bolts them selfs but around the bolts. Propane torch should be able to do the trick.

cherrington17 02-27-2010 02:14 PM

don't have a torch. packed it all back up, and am planning to have a mechanic friend do it. has a lift, and more tools.

doing on a jackstand, w/o air tools just isn't cutting it.


i hate wny!

colonel6632 02-27-2010 02:43 PM

ya, i did it in the driveway the first time without air tools and stuff. took me like 3 hours (stopped for a few beers). did the other side in the shop with air tools, take me 20 minutes lol

cherrington17 02-27-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colonel6632 (Post 528796)
ya, i did it in the driveway the first time without air tools and stuff. took me like 3 hours (stopped for a few beers). did the other side in the shop with air tools, take me 20 minutes lol


I did it on a friend's grand am... and taking my time... it took like... 2hrs(didn't know what i was doing, had to keep checking to make sure i was right)

and that was with basic tools, but his was still kinda new. This parking outside crap is making my suspension virtually unworkable. :glare: (for me)

colonel6632 02-27-2010 03:15 PM

agreed, i hate parking outside. and ya, i didn't know what i was doing either, and had to run around and find a 1/2 ratchet since i only had 3/8s ones, and i forgot to run the abs wire through, so i had to take it out again. and it took me a while to get the old bearing off the axle. now at the shop we have a universal puller set for semis, i just used one of those

Ryan from Ohio 02-27-2010 03:29 PM

You need a 6 point short socket and a 3/8 breaker bar and some muscle.

PB Blaster that baby up. Rotate the hub until you can see the end of the bolt. Take a punch and give it a few pops. Next put your socket w/breaker bar on and try to tighten it. Then simply loosen her up.

Sometimes tightening the bolt will help break it free.

heats not good with PB Blaster or WD40 though... boom boom

colonel6632 02-27-2010 04:48 PM

heat is ok with wd40 i believe

cobrajeff92 02-27-2010 04:59 PM

drive down to rochester and ill get them off at my shop for ya. hell we can do the wheel bearings right on the lift if you want. the offers there for ya if u want. wont take to long

Weazel 02-27-2010 05:54 PM

PB and impact worked on all my exhaust bolts, that was 160k miles of rust. Unfortunately, I don't have any other suggestions.10 foot breaker bar and a really fat friend?

BlackJack 02-27-2010 05:54 PM

Hold up chris. Sometimes this takes a multi-faceted approach. After soaking the crap out of it with PB from both sides of each bolt, you need to take a 5# or larger ball-peen hammer, and a punch, then tap the BOLT side, not the head-side. Put the breaker bar and socket on the head (of the bolt, not yours), and have a friend tap the back side of the bolt while you apply torque to the breaker bar. The simultaneous torque on the bolt with the hard tapping will likely jar the rust loose. Let me know if that doesn't work for you. You're gonna have to put the guns to it though, no half-effort on that torque bar.

cherrington17 02-27-2010 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJack (Post 528836)
Hold up chris. Sometimes this takes a multi-faceted approach. After soaking the crap out of it with PB from both sides of each bolt, you need to take a 5# or larger ball-peen hammer, and a punch, then tap the BOLT side, not the head-side. Put the breaker bar and socket on the head (of the bolt, not yours), and have a friend tap the back side of the bolt while you apply torque to the breaker bar. The simultaneous torque on the bolt with the hard tapping will likely jar the rust loose. Let me know if that doesn't work for you. You're gonna have to put the guns to it though, no half-effort on that torque bar.


its reassembled and will head to the shop (friend's shop). I'm not going to keep wasting my time, and getting insanely frustrated (in an unheated slush filled garage). Everytime i work on the car, I'm the only one around... so friends/family never help. (even if they are around... they don't help)

BlackJack 02-27-2010 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 528852)
Everytime i work on the car, I'm the only one around... so friends/family never help. (even if they are around... they don't help)


Simple fix. Move here to Kansas. Not only will we fix it, but we will boost it in the process.

cherrington17 02-27-2010 08:50 PM

haha. you get a good chiro school out there AND stop tornadoes and you got yourself a deal.

BlackJack 02-27-2010 09:21 PM

I can teach you chiro.....oh wait.....that's where you FIX people's spine problems. NM....

and tornadoes run away in fear, but I can't teach you that one LOL

cherrington17 02-27-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackJack (Post 528879)
I can teach you chiro.....oh wait.....that's where you FIX people's spine problems. NM....

and tornadoes run away in fear, but I can't teach you that one LOL


i suppose if you taught me your spinal reconfiguring techniques, and I didn't have the upper body strength of 4 angry yetis... it might qualify as chiropractic, in Kansas...

BlackJack 02-27-2010 09:25 PM

There's a school in Kansas City MO. That's 2-2.5 hours from here.

BlackJack 02-27-2010 09:26 PM

besides. I think your priorities are out of whack. You want to learn to make stupid money, or do you want to boost your Alero? LOL

cherrington17 02-27-2010 09:32 PM

i want to learn to make stupid money, so i can pay you to boost the alero. win for everyone.

AtomicX 03-03-2010 07:51 PM

Im having the same issue getting them off.
I could only get on the driver side hub, the one closest to the engine bay.
I couldnt even get a socket and rachet on the top one, and the one closest to the door just keept slipping off. :(


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