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tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 05:51 PM

new here, so heres some details lol
 
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i have an Oldsmobile Alero GLS 3400 V6..i love it..
my mods so far:
GForce Chip
K&N air filter
i know i dont have many mods, but right now im pushing over 220horsepower and 218lbs/ft of torque..the GForce chip helped A LOT..so here are some pics of my car..i also have some interior mods, which youll be able to see in the pics! go check out my 0-60 vids on youtube! tylehttp://www.youtube.com/user/tylershiltz05?feature=mheershiltz05

Dobbie 09-04-2011 06:01 PM

Welcome to the site

03Sleepr 09-04-2011 06:07 PM

220hp and 248lbs/ft with just a chip? sorry, but no.
anyways. welcome to the site

heineck 09-04-2011 06:13 PM



yea... u got the dyno to back that . im guessing this plugged into ur IAT?

Papa Rad17 09-04-2011 06:29 PM

Welcome. LEDs are ok. Be prepared for a shit storm of crap for the v8 emblem and "chip", get that peice of crap out and I garentee your car will run better, I know from experience, those things are total shit. Other then that it looks good.

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Sleepr (Post 595554)
220hp and 248lbs/ft with just a chip? sorry, but no.
anyways. welcome to the site


thanks..and yes 220hp and 218lbs/ft of torque..not 248..screwed up on the original torque part..buy a GForce chip and find out ur self..

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dobbie (Post 595552)
Welcome to the site


thanks

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Rad17 (Post 595559)
Welcome. LEDs are ok. Be prepared for a shit storm of crap for the v8 emblem and "chip", get that peice of crap out and I garentee your car will run better, I know from experience, those things are total shit. Other then that it looks good.


thanks..and ive had that V8 emblem for about 4 months..everyone always asks me "that has a v8 in it?" im like no, but it doesnt hurt to put it there haha..an well..i have 1 problem with what u said about the "chip"..when i first got it, i put it in, left it in for 2 weeks..took it out..left it that way for another 2 weeks..and after i took it out, there was BIG difference in performance..torque and hp decreased dramatically..this is the only "chip" that has actually lived up to what it says on there website..its worked like a charm for almost 6 months now..and it still works great..wat "chip" did u buy?

Papa Rad17 09-04-2011 06:43 PM

I tried "the blue chip" thing from eBay (even worse crap) and the g-force one. As far as I'm concerned they were a complete waist of time and money on my part. If your like yours then keep it and enjoy it, just saying, be prepared, those things are frowned upon on here.

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by heineck (Post 595556)


yea... u got the dyno to back that . im guessing this plugged into ur IAT?


nope i dont have any dyno to back it up..i go by wat my moms boyfriends scanner thing says..and if i can beat a stock 2009 V6 mustang..then id say its probably right..v6 2009 mustangs have 210hp..

jhubbz 09-04-2011 06:47 PM

i like ur gauges. how u do dat?

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Rad17 (Post 595563)
I tried "the blue chip" thing from eBay (even worse crap) and the g-force one. As far as I'm concerned they were a complete waist of time and money on my part. If your like yours then keep it and enjoy it, just saying, be prepared, those things are frowned upon on here.


yea ive tried other crap chips off ebay too..one called "punisher performance" and it screwed everything up..thats y i was hesitant to try the GForce chip..but it works amazing for my car..guess it just depends on wat type of motor is in the car..but i was thinking about getting a new muffler for my alero..any suggestions?

Papa Rad17 09-04-2011 06:51 PM

Mustangs are shit. I can keep right by the side of a 07 stock v6 stang at the track and I'm just a 4banger. I can't beat him but I can sure as shit hold my ground. The v6 alero's have been to know whoop ass, take the chip and you'll still beat him. All the chip does is tell your computer that the engin is sucking colder air so it sucks a little bit more, I really don't buy that dramatic of increas in stats. If any.

Papa Rad17 09-04-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jhubbz (Post 595565)
i like ur gauges. how u do dat?


Agreed.

Papa Rad17 09-04-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tylershiltz05 (Post 595566)
yea ive tried other crap chips off ebay too..one called "punisher performance" and it screwed everything up..thats y i was hesitant to try the GForce chip..but it works amazing for my car..guess it just depends on wat type of motor is in the car..but i was thinking about getting a new muffler for my alero..any suggestions?


I have a flowmmaster on mine. As for the chips in different engine, my buddy has a 02 v6, we plugged it into his to see what would happen, be could spin the tires for a split second longer but it didn't idle as well or run as well as in higher rpms. We took it out and it did beautiful again. Like i said, if you like it, keep it.

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jhubbz (Post 595565)
i like ur gauges. how u do dat?


thanks! and i made them custom..u can pretty much do anytype of gauge u want..got http://www.speedhut.com
thats where u can make them..

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Rad17 (Post 595567)
Mustangs are shit. I can keep right by the side of a 07 stock v6 stang at the track and I'm just a 4banger. I can't beat him but I can sure as shit hold my ground. The v6 alero's have been to know whoop ass, take the chip and you'll still beat him. All the chip does is tell your computer that the engin is sucking colder air so it sucks a little bit more, I really don't buy that dramatic of increas in stats. If any.


yea mustangs in my opinion are overrated..big time..ppl hear the word "mustang" and automatically assume their fast..and there really not..an yea the v6's are..an the sound that comes from the motor when u put it to the floor is AMAZING..it sounds so mean..its crazy...i love the sound..it has a real deep sound to it..

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Rad17 (Post 595569)
I have a flowmmaster on mine. As for the chips in different engine, my buddy has a 02 v6, we plugged it into his to see what would happen, be could spin the tires for a split second longer but it didn't idle as well or run as well as in higher rpms. We took it out and it did beautiful again. Like i said, if you like it, keep it.


thats wat i was considering..and yea..imma keep it lol..but does it sound good? like it doesnt sound like a ricer does it?

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Rad17 (Post 595568)
Agreed.


oh and i made them custom on http://www.speedhut.com

Papa Rad17 09-04-2011 07:06 PM

It sounds like it's going to tear your shit up. I do t have any vids but my grandma says it sounds like a race car and my geek ds tell me it's too freekin loud. By not pound enough to get me pulled over.

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Rad17 (Post 595574)
It sounds like it's going to tear your shit up. I do t have any vids but my grandma says it sounds like a race car and my geek ds tell me it's too freekin loud. By not pound enough to get me pulled over.


ha..sweet..

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Rad17 (Post 595574)
It sounds like it's going to tear your shit up. I do t have any vids but my grandma says it sounds like a race car and my geek ds tell me it's too freekin loud. By not pound enough to get me pulled over.


oh and heres a video u can watch...its not 0-60..its just showing the launch my car has.. http://www.youtube.com/user/tylershiltz05?feature=mhee

That01Olds 09-04-2011 07:31 PM

Welcome to the site.

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by That01Olds (Post 595577)
Welcome to the site.


thanks

zearchyo 09-04-2011 09:18 PM

i might be a little late but welcome to the site

tylershiltz05 09-04-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zearchyo (Post 595593)
i might be a little late but welcome to the site


thanks!

03Sleepr 09-04-2011 10:28 PM

I still call bs, your claiming over 50 gained hp from a chip that doesn't do anything. And no, I will not buy one. I'd much rather put my money into worthwhile mods

DUSTIN0285 09-05-2011 12:22 AM

I'd like to know how a scan tool tells you your HP/torque numbers????

tylershiltz05 09-05-2011 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 03Sleepr (Post 595607)
I still call bs, your claiming over 50 gained hp from a chip that doesn't do anything. And no, I will not buy one. I'd much rather put my money into worthwhile mods


well i really dont care wat u call BS..as long as i know, thats all that matters..and if it doesnt do anything, then y is my car faster?? exactly..i really dont care wat ur opinion is on my "chip"..so go be an ass to someone else about there car..not mine..

tylershiltz05 09-05-2011 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DUSTIN0285 (Post 595612)
I'd like to know how a scan tool tells you your HP/torque numbers????


its not a scan tool...idk wat it is..all i know is, u plug it in to the ECU port under the dash on the driver side..if ur alero is older than a 2001, u probly wont have one on ur car..an it tells u a whole lot of things..i think its called OBDII or something..

Shiwnath 09-05-2011 01:19 AM

dude...you would be the FIRST and ONLY person to have ever gained such benefits from some BS chip on a 3400 Alero.. there still is no absolute way to gain 50 hp from a chip your stock alero . I actually have my PCM(engine computer) tuned and I still wouldn't see a major gain in hp. You may feel a difference...but its not 50hp worth of a difference.

The truth is there is no performance chip that can truely offer what this company claims for Aleros. I'm only going to assume you're new to modding and car performance. Theres tuning software that acually gives real performance gains for Aleros....and you would probably still see a max of only 10HPish on a stock motor(ballpark value). 03Sleeper isn't being an ass. He's being truthful. He knows what he's talking about. It kinda annoys me that these stupid companies can screw unsuspecting people out of their money like that.

Shiwnath 09-05-2011 01:32 AM

Also to expand on my last post...the fact that they claim that the G-Force chip will boost your car by 60HP and 4-7MPG is complete BS. If GM could make your car more efficient by 4-7MPG while also increasing the horsepower by 60HP why the hell wouldnt our cars come like that from the factory?

This chip connects to the Intake Air Temp sensor to fool your PCM into thinking that your car is intaking cooler air so it would add more fuel to your engine and may also advance timing. This chip is really just a crappy resistor that modifies a signal that gets sent to the PCM to make some changes. If you care about your car then you would remove that thing because it's not the smart way to make horsepower nor is it practical.

Read this:
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showt...highlight=ebay

and this:

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6217

tylershiltz05 09-05-2011 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Shiwnath (Post 595615)
dude...you would be the FIRST and ONLY person to have ever gained such benefits from some BS chip on a 3400 Alero.. there still is no absolute way to gain 50 hp from a chip your stock alero . I actually have my PCM(engine computer) tuned and I still wouldn't see a major gain in hp. You may feel a difference...but its not 50hp worth of a difference.

The truth is there is no performance chip that can truely offer what this company claims for Aleros. I'm only going to assume you're new to modding and car performance. Theres tuning software that acually gives real performance gains for Aleros....and you would probably still see a max of only 10HPish on a stock motor(ballpark value). 03Sleeper isn't being an ass. He's being truthful. He knows what he's talking about. It kinda annoys me that these stupid companies can screw unsuspecting people out of their money like that.


ok..1, he was being an ass..an 2, yea a 45hp gain is a lot for a chip..but tell me this..how the hell am i going to beat a 210hp mustang by a good 2 car lengths? no stock 175hp alero is going to do that unless the mustang is sluggish(as in, needing a tune up an etc.)..no 4 popper alero is going to do it..an how do u know im the FIRST and ONLY person to have these types of gains?? have u talked to every alero owner on the planet? no. u havent so that was a lie..not trying to be an ahoe but im just fed up with ppl telling me my hp gains r bullshit, when there clearly NOT..especially when my cars ECU is telling me the horsepower and torque it has..if u drove my alero, and i showed u the readings, maybe youd believe me then..just because "chips" havent worked for u, or any 1 u know, doesnt mean they wont work at all..and to all u ppl on here that read this, and r still sayin this is BS, GET OFF MY POST..its not my fault u dont believe in "chips"..and i dont care if there frowned upon here in these forums, mine works, sucks that they never did for u..

Shiwnath 09-05-2011 01:57 AM

OK...i tried being nice and helping you out, but you clearly have no f**king clue about what the hell you are doing or what you are talking about. If these chips were all they were cracked up to be then everyone would be running them. Plus I also call major BS on you being able to beat a mustang with 210 HP..where did this race happen? Was he racing? Were you actually at a track? Was he sleeping? Also...I'll say it again...unlike your Alero, mine is truely tuned...wheres my 50HP? Understand what the IAT sensor does and what the G Force is actually doing before you come here talking smack.

whiterider00 09-05-2011 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tylershiltz05 (Post 595619)
..especially when my cars ECU is telling me the horsepower and torque it has..


i effing love this...

Shiwnath 09-05-2011 02:05 AM

Also the fact that you have a V8 sticker backs up my claim further that you have no idea wtf you are doing or talking about.

P.S. Welcome to Aleromod. I don't think you're stupid.. Just uneducated on the topic of performance mods... It's not too late to learn man..do a lotta reading and you'll be fine.

Shiwnath 09-05-2011 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by whiterider00 (Post 595622)
i effing love this...


Aleros come with a built in dyno..everyone knows this. :lol:

heineck 09-05-2011 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tylershiltz05 (Post 595614)
its not a scan tool...idk wat it is..all i know is, u plug it in to the ECU port under the dash on the driver side..if ur alero is older than a 2001, u probly wont have one on ur car..an it tells u a whole lot of things..i think its called OBDII or something..


dude thats not an ecu port its an OBDII :lol: and all cars after 1996 have it wtf are u talking about. and if the gforce was so great youd think they would know that a 2 door is a coupe not a sedan click the dropbox for year and body for a chuckle

http://www.gforcechips.com/oldsmobilealero.aspx

SIUlero 09-05-2011 02:22 AM

I see one of two things happening here. (1) You're a 16 year old kid, this is your first car, and you know absolutely nothing about the way a car works; or (2) You're a troll whose just trying to stir up shit on our forum. If it's (2), just GTFO now. But if it's (1), I hope you won't get too discouraged by everyone here trying to fill you in on the truths that have been discovered about Aleros by the members of this site over the past decade. It's an EXCELLENT knowledge base, and a great place to learn everything you want to know about your car. Welcome to the site.

The truth is, there is no "magic chip" that can unlock 45 or 50 hp from an Alero by itself. What you're feeling is more of a placebo effect: you know it's supposed to feel faster, so you think it is. If one of us was to take that chip out of your car tonight without you knowing, and you drove it tomorrow, you most likely wouldn't even notice a difference. Also, the PCM can't tell you how much power the engine is creating, so plugging a tool into the OBD-II port (equipped in every car since 1996) to communicate with the PCM can't tell you that either. The BEST it can do is theorize (with a VERY wide margin for error). As for your other point, stock V6 Mustangs have never been able to keep up with stock 3400 Aleros. You say this race was done at a track? Do you have a timeslip? You can get close estimates on horsepower and torque using the numbers from track slips. You could submit that as actual proof of the power increase you're claiming.

03Sleepr 09-05-2011 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tylershiltz05 (Post 595614)
its not a scan tool...idk wat it is..all i know is, u plug it in to the ECU port under the dash on the driver side..if ur alero is older than a 2001, u probly wont have one on ur car..an it tells u a whole lot of things..i think its called OBDII or something..


yea? I might be an ass but at least I'm not coming to a new forum, lying to people who actually know what they're talking about then talking shit. and I am by no means a guru, but I have common sense on my side. I have one of those..says nothing about hp/tq.

if you don't know what OBDII is then you probably haven't been "modding" for long.. its an acronym for on board diagnostics and it started in 96 not 01, it wont say shit about power either. care to take some pics of your readings?


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