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sleepyalero 12-31-2011 05:01 PM

easiest way for taking out tranny
 
so im getting a new transmission next week or so and i will be pulling out the old and putting in the new one myself in the garage... so question is... should i just drop the craddle and pull it from the bottom and install the new one through the bottom... or should i just pull the motor/tranny out together and disconnect/reconnect the new one?

thoughts would be great! thanks guys.

BearingBuddy 12-31-2011 06:13 PM

I just talked to my Bro, he says drop driver side cradle about a foot and your looking at about a three hour job. :(
FWIW, he can do a LIMG job in about 3-3.5 hours.

He has done a few. :coolio: Specializing in GM minivans.

Good Luck!

AleroB888 12-31-2011 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 605028)
so im getting a new transmission next week or so and i will be pulling out the old and putting in the new one myself in the garage... so question is... should i just drop the craddle and pull it from the bottom and install the new one through the bottom... or should i just pull the motor/tranny out together and disconnect/reconnect the new one?

thoughts would be great! thanks guys.


Most pro shops drop the subframe. I did that once with a lot of help, it's a ton of work. If I had to do it again, I'd take the whole thing out the top, but there's more steps involved. If you drop the subframe, you must get the front end aligned after, and it's hard to get the steering wheel lined up when reinstalling.

sleepyalero 01-01-2012 12:53 AM

hmmm..... sounds like i wanna pull it out the top. i was thinking that would be easiest when i posted this. but we will see. anyone else have suggestions? :)

xXManwhoreXx 01-01-2012 02:22 AM

Let me come over bro ive pulled more motors than I can count ill help ya fooo free I just charge in ciggs

sleepyalero 01-01-2012 03:40 AM

lol id have to buy you some cause i quit for new years lol.

Hellfire5670 01-01-2012 04:09 PM

I would comment with what i though would be easy but i have only ever taken out RWD Trans i don't know anything about ours... but id say take it from the top

sleepyalero 01-01-2012 05:21 PM

yeah i think im gonna just do that. only other question is should i get the built 4t45 auto for the car or should i go to milzy and get a 6 speed swap for my car.

Papa Rad17 01-01-2012 05:38 PM

^6speed swap!

MMGT1 01-01-2012 05:40 PM

^^agree with him

sleepyalero 01-01-2012 08:44 PM

right right. i was thinking that too. i dont know we will see. i was thinking on waiting till i build the car for the 6 speed swap and just do a built auto. but both are still possibilities..... options options options...

the 6 speed is an F40 transmission btw.

i can get a spec stage 2, or a spec stage 3 with purchase of kit.. or a G6 Dual Mass Clutch which is an additional 200$.

heres what all it comes with...

-0 miles F40 6 speed transmission
-MMS N-body 6 speed transmission mounts
-left, right, and center axles
-clutch
-flywheel
-master and slave cylinder
-clutch lines
-shifter cables
-shifter
-clutch peddle assembly
-clutch cylinder pipe sleeve
-neutral safety switch
-ARP flywheel bolts

Price:$3,749.99

tw0123 01-01-2012 08:52 PM

if you have to do the tranny now, why spend money on the auto when you want the 6 speed? if you can afford it now, do the job once... plus it will give you time to get used to the 6 speed for when you do build the motor some more...

sleepyalero 01-01-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tw0123 (Post 605125)
if you have to do the tranny now, why spend money on the auto when you want the 6 speed? if you can afford it now, do the job once... plus it will give you time to get used to the 6 speed for when you do build the motor some more...


good point but i was also thinking i could sell the built auto on here. then buy a 6 speed, but now kinda aiming towards 6 speed.

tw0123 01-01-2012 09:04 PM

I agree, but at the same point, it will be harder to sell simply due to the size and trying to ship it will be a pain... might be harder than you think, which is why I suggested just doing the 6 speed right away if you can afford it...

billytheman1188 01-01-2012 09:08 PM

$3,800! :eek:

sleepyalero 01-01-2012 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by billytheman1188 (Post 605128)
$3,800! :eek:


cant complain with everything that it comes with. i dont think its a bad deal honestly.

sleepyalero 01-01-2012 09:54 PM

i dont think anyone on here has a 6 speed in there V6 alero do they? :) i might be the first on here......... :D thats if i actually do get it instead of the built auto.

JLw7123 01-01-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 605137)
i dont think anyone on here has a 6 speed in there V6 alero do they? :) i might be the first on here......... :D thats if i actually do get it instead of the built auto.


ya you would be the first i think it has been done with a grand am i am not sure.


here is a how to.
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73212

xXManwhoreXx 01-02-2012 01:38 AM

I think buying the mounts from milzy and the rest from gm would be cheapest... But they are in ohio so I could roll with you out there to pick it up... Would be cheaper than shipping it

robalero 01-02-2012 07:43 AM

if your planning on selling the auto tranny on here afterwards, good luck I honestly ( not trying to be a rooster ) think your gonna sell it anytime quick and thats even if you do sell it on here. just buy the 6 speed if thats what you truely want

sleepyalero 01-02-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JLw7123 (Post 605138)
ya you would be the first i think it has been done with a grand am i am not sure.


here is a how to.
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73212


yeah ive seen that thread once awhile ago. might just be taking it to milzy and having them install it.


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Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx (Post 605159)
I think buying the mounts from milzy and the rest from gm would be cheapest... But they are in ohio so I could roll with you out there to pick it up... Would be cheaper than shipping it



yeah i think im taking it to milzy. remember scott? stayed with us at ass? his bro lives in oh and we are supposed to stay there while they work on it... or hes gonna get a free hotel like when we went to ass. and i omly have 2 seats cause i ripped out the back ones lol


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Originally Posted by robalero (Post 605167)
if your planning on selling the auto tranny on here afterwards, good luck I honestly ( not trying to be a rooster ) think your gonna sell it anytime quick and thats even if you do sell it on here. just buy the 6 speed if thats what you truely want


i think i will be going with the 6 speed. you have a point cause the whole shipping thing, and take a min to sell.



i emailed mike at milzy asking when i could take it there. just waitin for a reply

kwhauck 01-02-2012 12:03 PM

From looking at Fiero forums, and other motor swapped cars the prefered manual transmission to hold power is either the Getrag 282, or the F23. Lots of high power fieros have blown apart numerous f40s. That's why the mentioned 5 speeds are preferred.

sleepyalero 01-02-2012 02:00 PM

but how much power are they running with it? the f40 is capable up to 295 tq.

the F23 only holds 170 tq

cant find tq specs on the 282

[ion] C2 01-02-2012 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 605216)
the f40 is capable up to 295 tq.

says who? you know what they say my transmission is good for?

sleepyalero 01-02-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 605217)
says who? you know what they say my transmission is good for?


wikapedia lol. and what isnt it like 215ish

xXManwhoreXx 01-02-2012 09:26 PM

Straight cut gears.... Um yes!

sleepyalero 01-02-2012 09:48 PM

talked to mike today he said after payment he could get parts for it within the week i think and can bring it in, take about a week to do he said. :/

kwhauck 01-03-2012 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 605216)
but how much power are they running with it? the f40 is capable up to 295 tq.

the F23 only holds 170 tq

cant find tq specs on the 282


400+whp 500+tq

One member went back to the f23 after 3 failed f40s...and the has been fine for 3 years. That member is running a 700hp supercharged SBC........:scpimp:

sleepyalero 01-04-2012 01:20 AM

hmmmm idk so many choices!

kwhauck 02-29-2012 04:54 PM

After thinking over it for so long. If you are gonna drop 3 or 4 grand, why not just do a full t5 swap? I wish I would have sometimes. I might still in the future. I'd like to break some records first though.......

sleepyalero 02-29-2012 09:05 PM

that would be a pretty good challenge to make it work.

mfuller 02-29-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepyalero (Post 605216)
but how much power are they running with it? the f40 is capable up to 295 tq.

the F23 only holds 170 tq

cant find tq specs on the 282


There is an LS7-powered Fiero that was built right up the road from me.
Has a F40 with cyro'd gears and a Quaife LSD.
It makes lots of power and hasn't blown up yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbVrzt0aaGQ

sleepyalero 02-29-2012 11:38 PM

dang right on. :D

Alerojester 03-01-2012 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by mfuller (Post 610742)
There is an LS7-powered Fiero that was built right up the road from me.
Has a F40 with cyro'd gears and a Quaife LSD.
It makes lots of power and hasn't blown up yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbVrzt0aaGQ


i've seen that car in person at a fiero car show a couple years back we took a 383 twin turbo with a cavailer 5spd that was a fun little car too bad it was sold we had A LOT of work in that car but that's the name of the game i guess........ have you ever talked to Archee he's actually really cool to talk to and knows his stuff when it comes to dropping v8's in cars that shouldn't have them LOL:posi:

mfuller 03-01-2012 12:42 PM

Archie's shop is maybe 10 minutes from my house.
I need to go see him about some prototype work.

Alerojester 03-01-2012 01:20 PM

I see I see


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