manuel tranny on a 3400?
 

What do i all need to make my alero 3.4 auto into stick?

A lot. You can either do a 5-speed swap from a Sunfire/Cavalier or a 6-speed swap from a Pontiac G6. The 6-Speed swap is much more expensive and takes extra effort. The easiest route is the 5-speed F23 swap. You can't use the F23 that came in the Alero's 2.2 or 2.4 though. It has to be from a 2000-2002 Sunfire/Cavalier "2200 SFI" engine because they share the same belhousing pattern as the 3400 which is called the "GM Metric Pattern".

You'll need at least the following to make it work:
- Manual Alero Subframe
-Manual Alero interior trim pieces
-2200SFI Sunfire/Cav Trans
- Tuning software

There's much more than just this, but I can't think of it right now.... Check this link out:
http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...ght=speed+swap

I've got a 6 speed 3400.

Here's a walk through on a grand am.

http://www.grandamgt.com/forum/showt...&highlight=F40

All my parts were new, I paid 4800$ for the whole shebang. 5 speed will be cheaper I think... The F40 (6 speed) will cost (if you do it yourself) will be about 3500$

Dang thats alot lol possibly gunna put a new motor in to mines got 227xxxthe lol

Hey if it still runs I wouldn't worry about it.

I've got 180k on mine.

But 75%of my motor is new lol with parts and what not did fuel pressure regulator last night valve cover gasgets and intake gasgets and throttle body gasget :)u was fun but also a pain in the... :/

The 6-speed is a lot of work, but very fun.

Yeah it can happen,

Mfuller is the only other on here with a 6 speed 3400 alero. :)

6 speed would be really fun but itll cost alot lol gotta wait for my tax return and il do a swap

Best of luck :)

Research research.

Thanks :)so lost my job due to the economy so hopefully taxes come soon! Im gettingjust 2 grand back :)u i could prob pick up a wrecked 5 speed alero if jawa has one at his junk yard and just do a swap like that :D

not sure if you were meaning for the tranny cuz if you were that won't work since the 3400 has a different bell housing than the 4cyl aleros, however there are other parts that need to be off an alero

This is what you need for the 5 speed.

I'm not one to say much, but wouldn't it be better for you to get a job before you do the swap? I don't mean to be disrespectful, but $2000 isn't gonna cut it for a good swap, not to mention you always have to be prepared for an emergency.

I'd rather save up if I was you for a 6 speed.

Agree, get a job.

Do a 5 speed, like no one on here has it.

Already got 4the interveiws lined up :)

Plus i also help friends and family with work that they need done on their vehicals so thats also income making 400a a week for now till i do road striping that was 7 to 800the a week alot of work but its worth it but if anyone has done a grand am dash swap id like to no it kinda looks cools

tw0123 has done full ga interior swap, but his picture of it won't appear anymore so he will have to share it with you

Alright thanks! Il pm him ima try to do it when i get on a computer... my phone is not the best when it comes to the internet :/

Here's a link to the GA alero.

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36676

It's not a how to, but it's there. Basically everything will swap into it. Direct fit. All you need to do is go to the junkyard and find a donor car. I'd recommend 2002-2004 so you have the 2DIN radio, whereas 1999-2001 have 1 1/2DIN.

Alright thanks man i had a 2000 ga parts car but il try to find the one u said

thank you for posting that, I forgot that he had that thread, I was looking in his thread for tequila

If you already have the car then just use it. I only recommended it if you wanted to use the stock Olds radio or install a radio with the screen. I personally prefer the 2din radio opening over the 1 1/2 din but that's just me.

Just know you need the whole interior of the car, strip it down to the bare metal and wire aka the climate control tubing of the Alero will NOT go with the GA one.


I was thinking of Tequila too but I didn't know where it went and this was easier.

Only problem was it was a 4 door so :/but i got the dash just need center coonsel and ect.

sorry, just saw this thread... as you have seen, I have done the interior swap. took me about 3 weeks to complete, however maybe 6 hrs of actual working time!! to get it done, just take your time, remember how things looked and it is cake!
1. seats out.
2. steering wheel off.
3. remove radio trim, radio etc.
4. glove box, and any visual screws at this point that look like they hold something on.
5. center console- there are screws under the dash, beside where the seats go, in the arm rest and under the shifter as well (if I remember right!)
6. remove gauge cluster and all screws.
7. keep looking for screws that are holding it down. pull up gently and you will find the area(s) of resistance to look for more screws.
8. once the dash is out, you have to remove the duct work for the vents. they are close, and will work from the alero to grand am, but slightly off, so I recommend swapping them as well. the side vents by the doors are the most obvious misaligned ones, but the center has a half moon vs 3 single pods.

with the piping, it will be stuck around the core braces for the frame and air bag supports... the piping does bend, just use moderate to heavy force while maintaining delicacy!!

reassemble into the other car. biggest issues I have found, is my traction control does not work, it goes from the center console up to the dash above the radio.

also, when I swapped the gauge clusters, I just cut and spliced the wires, and realised as I was cutting the last wire, that the alero has 9 wires while the grand am only has 8... I never looked into what wire did what, and the only issues I have are: signals are hyper as though I have led's or a burnt bulb; my abs and trac off light are on constantly ( I just put black electrical tape over them to hide it!)

other than that, for the radio, you will have to go aftermarket, unless you get the same model year of car, or the connectors will not line up. I just went aftermarket with a cheap jvc deck, alero wiring harness and grand am mounting bracket! problem solved :)

any further questions, just shoot me a pm!
good luck

[quote=tw0123;631833
other than that, for the radio, you will have to go aftermarket, unless you get the same model year of car, or the connectors will not line up. I just went aftermarket with a cheap jvc deck, alero wiring harness and grand am mounting bracket! problem solved :)

any further questions, just shoot me a pm!
good luck[/QUOTE]

I thought all 1999-2004 Aleros were 2din whereas 1999-2001 radios were the older 1 1/2 din in the Grand Am.

That's why I had suggested looking for a 2din Pontiac dash, so he could use the Alero radio.

Or are we talking about swapping the GA radio too?


Center consoles should be the same length between coupes and sedans. You will need all side interior pieces though since the doors are longer on the coupe.

With regards to the radio the alero radio will not mount with the grand am dash. The bolt holes and size are off so you would have to hope if it is the same model year the connecting harness would be compatible. I do not know however as i installed the aftermarket system complete with sub and amp :)
This was why i suggested it would be easier to find a cheap aftermarket one and save the hassle!!

I have an aftermarket one and the grand am i got tbe dash off of had the a nother aftermarket in it with the holder so im good on that and yae i noticed that to i think if i remember correctly its thegreen wire thats the 9thalero one

I hate the ga gauge cluster, but I love the air vents... perfect for gauges

Yae thats true i was thinking about that to i mean i got the tripple a pillar pod and its the full one to its nice to have but a pain in the butt with having the lights on inside it at night i might actually do that with the vents when i get it in :)

I might suggest if you are going to do gauges in the centre vents just remove and block off that portion of the vents. It will allow the airflow to get to the outer vents and not melt the gauges should you ise that setting for heat!
Just a thought :)

Thanks for the idea :)and gunna do that when i get the dash anyone have an alero but with a grand am gt front end?

nope, do it! but keep the alero rear :) it looks better then the ga rear.

I was thinking about it itd be a first lol but i need to find non rusty fenders then slready got a hood nd now for head lights fenders front bumper and thhe peice that holds them in and all

The nicest thing to be would get a job at a junk yard and find a 5speed alero and a 5new speed grand am and do my whole swap and just work till all the parts are paid off sucks enuf that around my town we just got lkq i use to work there but dont now and they charge a crap ton.... and it would be nice to have a garage to do it in to but sadly otl be a few years cuz i found a job sadly....at a ford dealer detailing cars for 7.25 an hour and itl be a few years before any swap happens :(

there was a grand am alero mutt on craigslist around here a little while back, it looked kinda odd...it would definately screw with people

Ohh I see. I'm pretty sure the radio would have to be 2Din on the Grand AM dash for the Alero one to fit. I've looked into the issue a bit further and found that most 2din radios have 2 bolts on the driver's side and one bolt on the passenger's side that's centered. If the radio kits are interchangeable, the radios themselves should be as well.


So if anything, you got stuck with the 1 1/2 Din size, but you are right, if you're taking the radio out, might as well upgrade to something better that can read USB and AUX.


That would look weird. What I would do is find a bumper that doesn't have the split grille or bondo the front to look like the stock Olds bumper with no opening and then get projector headlights. The only thing is that the body lines would look weird.

I'd say go for it.


For the record, Grand Am trunks are completely different from Alero trunks. The Alero is squared off where as the Grand Am has slants where the tail lights are. They can't be changed unless you swap out the entire quarter panel. At this point, you might as well get a Grand Am.

It would be funny mom look an alero or wait now its a grand am wait what one is it?

I just not to fond of a ga rear :(

Deffinitely not the best looking thats for sure