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Mr_Reed 12-18-2007 03:10 AM

3.4 Supercharger, N/A, Turbo
 
Here's the stitch guys..
pretty much everyone I know fixes up imports and everyone wonders wtf is an Alero I know my car has potential and I've seen what they can do from looking into Red Dogs car and Jackals but.. I was wondering whats the best bang for you buck when it comes to moding these cars?
I just have small mods right now.
cat back exhaust system.
MSD wires/coil kit.
I plan on getting the..
PFYC Chip
Chrome Intakes (Ebay cai)
Underdrive pulley

and then the question mark comes up..
I don't want to spend over 2500 bucks I have my own shop to work in and I have lots of friends that can weld.. yada yada..

pimpalero2003 12-18-2007 03:13 AM

well if u can get people to do the turbo manifold or what ever id say turbo

jackal2000 12-18-2007 03:50 AM

turbo, hands down. you could probably piece together a budget turbo build for $2k. if you went N/A, that same amount of money gets you headers, heads, and a cam with a couple hundred bucks to spare, but no where near the power level. if i could do it again i would have just had the blown head gasket fixed and slapped a t3/t4 turbo on it and called it a day.

YALEROYNOT 12-18-2007 04:53 AM

go to reddogs cardomain page. and he listed his mods. he has like 207hp at wheels

jackal2000 12-18-2007 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by YALEROYNOT (Post 323327)
go to reddogs cardomain page. and he listed his mods. he has like 207hp at wheels


no he doesnt. his car has never been dynoed and there is no way its even close to 200whp.

Redog 12-18-2007 10:31 AM

^^ Really, who's running 14's :rolleyes2:

Redog 12-18-2007 10:36 AM

There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power ;)

YALEROYNOT 12-18-2007 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog (Post 323351)
There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power ;)


HOW MUCH ?

LINK ?

Redog 12-18-2007 11:44 AM

http://www.milzymotorsports.com/

YALEROYNOT 12-18-2007 12:17 PM

wow thats a good price $2700 for the stage 2

Mr_Reed 12-18-2007 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog (Post 323351)
There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power ;)


So if I did go with the stage 2 kit what would I do about my fuel system?

Did Jackal make his own Turbo manifold and everything?

[ion] C2 12-18-2007 01:04 PM

jackal has a turbo?

turbo's reach peak power faster than superchargers?

i'm lost

Mr_Reed 12-18-2007 01:07 PM

My bad I ment Blackjack

billytheman1188 12-18-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Reed (Post 323408)
My bad I ment Blackjack


if i remember right, blackjack tried to save as much money as he could on his set-up. He made a lot of stuff.... just PM him and he will help you out.

Redog 12-18-2007 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Reed (Post 323404)
So if I did go with the stage 2 kit what would I do about my fuel system?

Did Jackal make his own Turbo manifold and everything?


It comes with injectors, doesn't it?

I would think the stock pump would be fine, but you could get an upgraded one. Stock fuel pumps suck anyway

misslindseysue 12-18-2007 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [ion] C2 (Post 323407)
jackal has a turbo?

turbo's reach peak power faster than superchargers?

i'm lost


Me too. I've only driven my turbo-ed engine, but I don't get boost 'till about 2500rpm, then it's hangonholytorquesteer!

jackal2000 12-18-2007 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog (Post 323350)
^^ Really, who's running 14's :rolleyes2:


we both are clown. prove your claim of over 200whp. you cant just add up the hp of each mod and think thats what you have. :rolleyes2:

Six Shooter 12-18-2007 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Redog (Post 323351)
There are a few things you can do. Personally I like the s/c over the turbo.

Turbo will make power a lot quicker, but it's also a hell of a lot of heat to deal with. S/C runs cooler, and is belt driven. You can get a smaller pulley for it too fairly easy.


Myth!

The heat in the compresed air is from the compressing, not from the type of device doing the compressing. Under hood temps might be slightly higher with a turbo, but not that much different, and definatly won't hurt any performance aspect. Turbos also need heat to work, look up turbine theory for a more in depth explaination.

Quote:

Mizly also has a s/c cam and a stage 1 and stage 2 n/a kit. I'm looking to get the stage 2 kit when the day comes to replace the motor. Both kits come with upper and lower manifolds, cam, PCM, thromo, new timing chain, complete gasket set, and some thing else I'm sure I'm leaving out.

The stage 2 kit will get you some nice power ;)

Is he back in buisness? I haven't heard anything good bout dealing with him, ever.

Redog 12-18-2007 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jackal2000 (Post 323493)
we both are clown. prove your claim of over 200whp. you cant just add up the hp of each mod and think thats what you have. :rolleyes2:


Really every time you go to the track you say you never break into the 14's, where's the post with the 14.xxx timeslip ;)

And if you are running in the 14's let me know and I'll update the fastest Alero thread ;)

[ion] C2 12-18-2007 07:44 PM

14 is still not that quick.. i can't wait to rebuild and inject meth and feel the wonders of 13-15 PSI

best bang for your buck, turbo it like the poll says


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