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cherrington17 08-02-2005 06:38 PM

Since i've had several requests to explain this, i'll write up an easy "how to" for wiring Led's. This will just be how to run power to get them lit.
Not how to run them in parallel for specific voltages.
(if someone wants to add that part to the how to, feel free to do so. just please use pics for every step. make it as easy as possible! )

The model i'm doing, i'm using a 3 Volt power supply. Obviously automotive applications have 12 Volt. This is why most leds are sold with resistors. you need to solder that resistor to either of the led terminals and that makes it work on a 12 Volt power, in series.

Step One.

In the picture, i have what is called a "terminal block" it has 4 terminals, 2 screws on each one.
1|2|3|4
5|6|7|8

The metal piece in the back left is connecting screws 1 and 2. This gives them both the same voltage. So as pictured, screws 1;2;5;6 will all have the same voltage. As with 3;4 and 7;8. This is NOT true for screws 4;7 or 3;8. They are not connected, so they will not have the same voltage.

I have connected the + lead of the led onto screw 6 and the negative of the Led onto screw 7

Eh_nigma 08-02-2005 06:42 PM

Pure genious! Thanks!!! I can see where you're going with this... and yes, it is definately simplified!

cherrington17 08-02-2005 06:43 PM

Step 2.

Now connect your power supply. This will be a Power wire in your car. The easiest place to get that is from the fuse box on either side of the car. I'd suggest consulting the manual and picking one that is NOT that important to proper car function (in case you blow that fuse)

Picture 2 is the image of my make shift power supply.

cherrington17 08-02-2005 06:50 PM

Step 3.

Connect your power supply to the terminal block.
1|2|3|4
5|6|7|8


Since screws 1;5 and 2;6 are "jumpered" together, you can connect power to either screw 1 or 2 and the voltage will get to screw 5 and 6. This makes thing easier when your using more then one led.

Also in this picture, i have my ground wire inserted under screw 3. This is the ONLY place this wire can go, since screw 3 and 4 are isolated from each other. The only way the voltage can return from screw 7 is directly to screw 3 and thats all.

(w/ this "basic" setup, the power and ground both come from the power supply. In your car, the power will come from the fuses [connected to the battery] and a ground will be any place on the structural metal of the car) Personally, i used a good sized bolt under the center console as a ground. I just unscrewed it a bit, put a wire under it and tightened it back down really good.

cherrington17 08-02-2005 06:54 PM

That should be all you need to connect power and ground to a LED. The last image is of the complete setup. Very easy to do.

Eh_nigma 08-02-2005 07:01 PM

if you hook up the distributor to a steady 3V power supply (use a resistor and then draw power from the car...), you can mount multiple LED's on the same distributor...

cherrington17 08-02-2005 07:55 PM

i haven't tried it, but in theory it would work. (as long as all the led's on that distribution were the same.

putting the resistor on the power, coming into the block.... hmm... never really thought of that. lol.

cherrington17 03-16-2006 02:03 PM

dremelled led tip....

for the members that wonder "how far" to sand them....

just need to get rid of the "cone" top...


Whitetigerboi83 03-16-2006 03:08 PM

http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz found to help alot if needed more info on resistor sizes etc.
or http://metku.net/index.html?sect=view&n=1&...dcalc/index_eng

Vir.se 08-21-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 175254)
dremelled led tip....

for the members that wonder "how far" to sand them....

just need to get rid of the "cone" top...


and for the members that wonder why you sand em? :D Will it spread the light or focus it?

cherrington17 08-21-2008 03:51 PM

spread light. the cone keeps a focused beam, which is what you want to remove.

YALEROYNOT 08-21-2008 04:24 PM

here is a good calulator that I use:

led calulator



hint : if you run the leds like this (in series) and use 12 V and (6) 2v leds no resistor is needed. but you can only "chain" 6 leds in a group.

deathwish666 08-25-2008 12:00 PM

does it matter what size/type(diffused/wide angle/etc) i get if im going to sand them down anyway? and what is water clear?

im looking at this store http://search.stores.ebay.com/Wellton-Superbright-Led-Store_green-led_W0QQfcdZ2QQfromZR10QQfrtsZ0QQfsubZ3030796QQfts Z1QQsaselZ243256314QQsofpZ0

i need to stay below $11 bc thats all i have in my paypal and i dont want to wait another week to transfer more haha

cherrington17 08-25-2008 06:38 PM

^didn't really go anywhere specific, for leds. just the general store.

its hard to say when to sand and when not to, when your talking about those. i used a bathroom here as a test "lab" since one we have has no windows and can be completely dark (w/ a power outlet) mock mount them w/ some tape, and connect a basic 12V power source to them (w/ a resistor of course) and see how they look. If its like a flashlight beam, then sand... if it makes the whole object glow, then don't sand.

unless your looking for a certain look... then just do whatever. :lol:

XanderWiFi 02-28-2009 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 132181)
Step 3.

Connect your power supply to the terminal block.
1|2|3|4
5|6|7|8


Since screws 1;5 and 2;6 are "jumpered" together, you can connect power to either screw 1 or 2 and the voltage will get to screw 5 and 6. This makes thing easier when your using more then one led.

Also in this picture, i have my ground wire inserted under screw 3. This is the ONLY place this wire can go, since screw 3 and 4 are isolated from each other. The only way the voltage can return from screw 7 is directly to screw 3 and thats all.

(w/ this "basic" setup, the power and ground both come from the power supply. In your car, the power will come from the fuses [connected to the battery] and a ground will be any place on the structural metal of the car) Personally, i used a good sized bolt under the center console as a ground. I just unscrewed it a bit, put a wire under it and tightened it back down really good.



I just want to make sure I understand this properly: I understand that 3:7 are connected, but would 7 be your ground under the dash or 3?

XanderWiFi 02-28-2009 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 381184)
spread light. the cone keeps a focused beam, which is what you want to remove.


Ah...I see...

fielder87 05-10-2009 05:43 PM

3 and 7 are your grounds(plural)

cherrington17 05-10-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fielder87 (Post 461400)
3 and 7 are your grounds(plural)


why..yes... yes they are.

:huh:
i'm confused as to why you added this comment... but it doesn't really matter.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Eh_nigma (Post 132183)
if you hook up the distributor to a steady 3V power supply (use a resistor and then draw power from the car...), you can mount multiple LED's on the same distributor...


i know 'nigma isn't on the board anymore... but it IS possible to do this, however, all resistors have a total Wattage they can supply. (most are 1/8,1/4,1/2W) so... you can only run a few off of a line like this. Just remember, if you are going to try doing leds this way... V*A=W

XanderWiFi 04-14-2012 08:39 PM

How do you direct connect to an LED bulb? Such as one from superbrightleds.com. I bought an extra and wanted to do the cupholder one but don't know how to wire them unless the bulb goes in a stock socket.

Nevermind, I have a 194 replacement so I'm sure that can't be direct wired.


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