[mikegett]

If you are looking for a good set of introductory speakers for the front and back then I would suggest something along the line of the eclipse point source. The point source have a crossover built onto the side of the speaker. This gives you the benefits of the componants but in a smaller size like most integrated speakers. There are two problems with the itegrated speakers. The first is that there is no crossover to protect the mids and highs. A cap or two will normaly be placed to help prevent overheating, but the frequencies will overlap. This is why one woofer and tweeter sound better than a three way integrated series. The other problem is that the integrated speakers have a pole running through the woofer cone. This limits the performance of the woofer. Once again, why a six inch componant can out perform a 6x9 integrtated speaker. The point source places the tweeter to the cone to reduce this limitation. I currently have componants but would greatly concider changing to the point source due the flexibility of there installation and superb sound (the componants must have a exact enclosure size) . JL produces a similar product but run about fifty dollars more than the eclipse. I have not fitted the eclipse point source to our cars but the dimensions are 3 and 7/16 deep for the 6x9, 2 and 3/8 for the 6.5's , and 2 and 1/16 for the 4's. The sizes are standard and not oversized like componants. The comp's rate a size by the woofer and not overall demensions.