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Old 12-13-2004, 11:29 AM   #10
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Originally posted by wy3134@Dec 13 2004, 12:20 AM
unfortunately the only free horsepower is a $500 nitrous kit, otherwise its throw a couple grand down to get any decent gains in HP, gotta have the exhaust to go with the intake, gotta have both intake and exhaust manifolds for gains there (if u keep one stock, then the flow will still be the same as if both were stock cause ones restrictive over the other) umm larger throttle body, etc....sucks having to throw that much down but then again, if it was only a couple hundred then everyone would have an 8 second car
Ok, so just having a CAI and a cat-back exhaust WILL make a difference. A Throttle body is not needed until you start messing with turbos or engine internals (you computer will automatically re-calculate you air fuel mixture with the freer flow). Don't believe me look at my 1/4 mile times. I don't even have the header on my car (yet). My Intake manifold is stock too. A Big help that most don't realize is have lowering springs too. This helps out on launch because there is less body roll/movement to the back end since there is soo much less suspension travel.

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really, you think the 2.2 could take the 3400? Let me know when...in fact i'll meet you in the spring and we'll find out for sure at the track here in pittsburgh

The 2.2 CAN be faster then a 3400. I can easily beat a stock 3400 and even a few modified ones. The last time I was at the strip, the only 3400 to beat me had a CAI, Cat-back exhaust, Throttle body and high flow cat. He ran a 14.9 while I did a 15.2. During my other clubs track day (a grand am grand prix club) The two fastest grand ams were 2.3L high output 1993 grand ams. (15.33 and 15.40) Then there was me with a 15.50 then the three 3400 grand ams (CAI catback and heavy body kit) 15.53 (stock) 15.61 (wai, high mileage) 15.68.

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You will notice a small difference pretty much just in sound. Beating his GA GT is possible depends what year he has if he has a later 90's one with a 2.3 HO motor I would so no but if he just has the 3400 then you got a pretty good chance.

The later 1990'S Quad 4's are slow and useless. The 2.4 version sucked monkey balls. The 1990-1993 H.O. (and W31 for a lucky few) were fast as hell and can run 15.12 with a CAI and Catback exhaust (in the super cold weather.)
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