04-22-2009, 12:17 AM
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turbo progress
well today we bought a turbo, an intercooler a piping kit, a battery relocate kit and the flanges we will weld onto the custom exhaust manifold...
i will get pictures up whenever things start coming together here in about a week or two.....
anhy thoughts on fuel injecters?
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04-22-2009, 12:52 AM
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Depends on the size of your turbo and how much boost you are trying to run.
Richie supposedly had 42#ers with his 250whp setup (6psi on a Garrett T3 60-1 turbo; AR trim .63), and some others have made do with 28# injectors from a Trailblazer (again, about 250whp from 8psi on a Garrett T3/T04B V Trim .63 AR).
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04-22-2009, 12:56 AM
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Some inspirational pictures......
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04-22-2009, 09:50 AM
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whose is that? nice looking manifold, better than the ususal birdshit welded logs you see......
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04-22-2009, 12:01 PM
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whose is that? nice looking manifold, better than the ususal birdshit welded logs you see......
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i second that i wish i could find that manifold, it would look better than the custom pipes we are making now...
and as for the boost i will be running at around 8psi...
but with the boost controler i will be keeping it in between 6-8
are wastegates able to be adjusted to the desired psi within their range?
because mine is set at 8psi spring according to its specs
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04-22-2009, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by worknprog.99
i second that i wish i could find that manifold, it would look better than the custom pipes we are making now...
and as for the boost i will be running at around 8psi...
but with the boost controler i will be keeping it in between 6-8
are wastegates able to be adjusted to the desired psi within their range?
because mine is set at 8psi spring according to its specs
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you running this on a stock 3400?
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04-22-2009, 12:18 PM
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things will be upgraded durring the process why?
my buddy has one that he had turboed two years ago and to this day he is still running stock at 12 psi only difference is is his is a grand am.
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04-22-2009, 12:18 PM
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I got a set of injectors from my 3800 engine freshly cleaned before I removed them... if you're interested 100$ shipped to you...
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04-22-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by worknprog.99
things will be upgraded durring the process why?
my buddy has one that he had turboed two years ago and to this day he is still running stock at 12 psi only difference is is his is a grand am.
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well, i know that the internals of a 3400 are forged, so i would not worry
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04-22-2009, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate's Alero
well, i know that the internals of a 3400 are forged, so i would not worry
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what you mean not worry lol?
is your opinion that it wont work or you think it will ? 
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04-22-2009, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by worknprog.99
are wastegates able to be adjusted to the desired psi within their range?
because mine is set at 8psi spring according to its specs
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yes, called boost controller... it limits the amount of boost the wastegate sees so it doesn't open until your desired boost level is set
and nate's talking about the engine handling the extra power. the 3400 has forged rods stock.
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04-22-2009, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by [ion] C2
yes, called boost controller... it limits the amount of boost the wastegate sees so it doesn't open until your desired boost level is set
and nate's talking about the engine handling the extra power. the 3400 has forged rods stock.
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yeah the majority of people that i have talked to have said i will be ok with this setup the only ones that say otherwise dont see the point anyways lol.
and thats what i thought about the boost controler.
i will get pics of stuff when i get farther into the progress
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04-22-2009, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nate's Alero
well, i know that the internals of a 3400 are forged, so i would not worry
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wrong.....
but yes, at 8psi, assuming you have a good tune, your motor will be fine....
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04-22-2009, 05:23 PM
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wrong.....
but yes, at 8psi, assuming you have a good tune, your motor will be fine....
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thats what my friend and myself figure,,,,
you sure its not forged i had someone else say it is too
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04-22-2009, 05:25 PM
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Well what are you describing with "it's"? Every component in the engine? The connecting rods are forged. That's it.
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04-22-2009, 05:29 PM
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usually the only worry at higher psi, is the pistons, rods are usually fine, and so it the crank, but if you want SBC rods will work if you narrow down the big ends, and the 3500 has a forged crank which can be used if you turn it down, or custom rods, and then you also will need the TCE external crank trigger.....even though i bent my last crank, i opted for the stock 3400 crank and SBC rods with custom forged pistons in my built motor....
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04-22-2009, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kwhauck
usually the only worry at higher psi, is the pistons, rods are usually fine, and so it the crank, but if you want SBC rods will work if you narrow down the big ends, and the 3500 has a forged crank which can be used if you turn it down, or custom rods, and then you also will need the TCE external crank trigger.....even though i bent my last crank, i opted for the stock 3400 crank and SBC rods with custom forged pistons in my built motor....
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well the good thing here is that im not going that high on psi im starting at low 
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04-24-2009, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by worknprog.99
and as for the boost i will be running at around 8psi...
but with the boost controler i will be keeping it in between 6-8
are wastegates able to be adjusted to the desired psi within their range?
because mine is set at 8psi spring according to its specs
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If your wastegate is set for 8psi, you cannot lower it below 8psi, you can only raise it. A boost controller can only raise the boost pressure from what the wastegate is set at. The only way to lower it is to get a different wastegate actuator (internal gate) or a different spring (external gate).
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04-24-2009, 01:07 PM
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If your wastegate is set for 8psi, you cannot lower it below 8psi, you can only raise it. A boost controller can only raise the boost pressure from what the wastegate is set at. The only way to lower it is to get a different wastegate actuator (internal gate) or a different spring (external gate).
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i know. i was planning on getting a spring for 6 psi
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04-24-2009, 01:17 PM
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OK then you can run 6psi minimum and raise it to whatever you want 
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