Even more Window trouble...

reddog37 · 06-10-2008, 10:28 PM

I know there have been a lot of these lately but I have abused the Search function and I cant quite find the resolution to my issue.

Basically my left REAR window is broken. It will not stay up. Honestly I dont care if I ever roll it down again, I just want the darn thing to stay up.

So after educating myself on this forum I took the door panel and moisture barrier off the left rear door. Unfortunatly I see nothing that looks anything like any pictures I have in my Haynes manual or from any threads on this forum. It seems the rear windows work differently than the front?

I thought the sashes would be out in the open but they seem to be hidden. I cant see anything that is broken but... I cant see much of anything

I included some pics to see what the experts think. Any advice would be appreciated.

reddog37 · 06-12-2008, 05:42 PM

No responses make me sad. Well here we go again. If I have missed something from a previous thread I do apologize, and I promise that I have looked. Everything I can find on the subject is for front doors and not the rear.

I looked a bit closer and found some tiny white pieces of plastic in the bottom of the door. This makes me think i broke a clip.

I took a mirror and looked behind the upsidedown triangular looking metal piece (you can see it in the first pic) and it looks like the piece of plastic that grabs the metal cord is what snapped. This makes me think I have to replace the entire regulator.

Does anybody have any advice? If I can just replace a little clip that would be great. Do I need to take the whole window out to do this? How do I get behind the regulator to even do anything?

If I have to buy a regulator I can get one of of Ebay for not too much (I have to wait for shipping though

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What I do not want to do is go to replace the clip, take the whole thing out and then find out I need a regulator.

rustyballs_69 · 06-12-2008, 07:05 PM

You will need the whole thing for the rear window. Ebay is probably your best bet for a cheaper one.

GoldStar611 · 06-12-2008, 08:16 PM

your window keeps falling down? Sounds like the metal cable isn't snapped in at all to the white clips. Or maybe the cable has snapped.. I hate the windows in the alero, I'm just glad I don't have to deal with it anymore

reddog37 · 06-12-2008, 08:22 PM

By 'whole thing' I assume you mean I will need a whole new regulator?

Or do I need to get a motor too? (The motor seemed to have been working fine.)

And one last question. Since I am taking the window out and it is glued to the two black clips at the top(you can kind of see them at the top of the pics) Do i need to order new clips as well? I just want to make sure I have everything I need before I take everything apart

GoldStar611 · 06-12-2008, 08:33 PM

the clips that are glued to the window don't need to be reordered unless they are brokent too, they have a bolt running through them I assume if they are like the fronts.

rustyballs_69 · 06-12-2008, 09:20 PM

Is it the white plastic part that broke or was it the black plastic that is glued to the window? If it was the white plstic part then you will need a new regulator but not a new motor. If its the black plastic did they break or did the opxy just not hold it to the window?

reddog37 · 06-13-2008, 12:42 AM

The black clips did not break, they are fine. I assume I will have to disconnect them from the window though to fix the regulator (???). Is it as easy as unbolting them? It looks like some sort of sealant was put between the clip and the window.

If I am reading you guys right I just need to replace the regulator. I will get the part ordered and hopefully ill get a few pics of the job. Thanks for all of your responses.

rustyballs_69 · 06-13-2008, 07:11 PM

Yeah the sash is is attached to the window with opxy, looks like silicone. In your first picture you can see the two bolts, those are the ones you unbolt to take the window out, there will be four bolts toltal for the window to come off the regulator.

trumpetplayer91372 · 08-18-2008, 05:09 PM

Reddog, were you able to get everything to work out because my rear passenger window doesn't stay up and after pulling everything off, I can't see any broken pieces. When i press the button, the cable does move and winds up into the spool, but the window doesn't move until the very last few inches of going down where it grabs and drops to its lowest setting.

Does this sound like the cable clip broke and I need a new regulator?

It seems like the metal piece for the door is one big piece and they squeezed the parts into the hollow area, so how do you go about removing the regulator if you need to?

spinalator · 08-20-2008, 03:47 PM

I have 3 windows that make horrible metal on glass grinding noises, but they still go up and down. I have not had time to tear into it as I have my house in pieces right now. Of all 3 aleros I have had, all three have had cheapass windows that do the same thing. Glad I have a/c in them or it would likely be worse.

Mr_Reed · 08-20-2008, 04:53 PM

How to fix your Alero Window falling down Porblems forever!
Step 1:
Take off your door panel.
Step 2:
Find a sturdy 2 by 4 and cut a notch in it that will hold your window up and fit in your door.
Step 3:
Insert notched 2 by 4 into inner door and place window how you would like it.
Step 4:
Get a drill and screw in place the 2 by 4 in into your inner door panel.
Step 5:
Put door panel back on.

I got so sick of my window falling down and buying new clips and regulators and window motors I fixed my window for good!

Redog · 08-21-2008, 01:17 PM

The only time my window broke was when I tried to roll it down to break the ice off the window.

Fixed under warranty.

D/S PW motor sticks sometimes. Bang on the interior panel, and it works

clutch1 · 08-21-2008, 11:07 PM

Lol, hey Reed, I JUST read that last night, and wouldn't ya know it, today my sugarbitch stops by with broken rear window white clip on her 99' Cutlass.

I cut a piece of wood and jammed that bitch in there and she was so happy her drivers seat got wet with lovejuices.

Lol, but really, great temporary fix to hold it up until you feel like replacing it, if you even feel like it that is, lol.

Midgear · 08-21-2008, 11:29 PM

my windows dont work because two regulators went out and the window switch on the driver door quit working..

so I pulled all 4 motors off the regulators.. now I can pull em up and down by hand and wherever I pull em, they stay- fastest manual windows ever. just dont roll the front ones down all the way lol

getting it fixed next week.