Remote Start

[BLK03GXS]

Originally posted by cutelilcntrygrl@May 25 2004, 05:23 PM
I'm glad I found this thread. I've got a 01 Alero GX and it's a 5 speed. Is there anyone on here with a manual transmission that has installed or had a remote starter installed on their car? I had one on my Camero and it came in handy so much during the hot summers and cold winters. I was just wondering if it was possible to put this on my Alero because you have to put the car in reverse in order to start it and to get the key out. Sorry if my question sounds, or is stupid but keep in mind, I don't know much about this stuff and the only way to learn is it ask.

Refrance the Manual.. i have one too... and if you pull out the trim for the shifter... you can see the cable that keeps it locked into reverse... when the key is out.. you can just unhook that and keep it tyght... but just remember to put ure e-brake on... that feature seems to be there on our cars for 2 reasons.. cus the e-brakes suck... and cus there is NO ignition lock on our cars... (anti theft)

[cutelilcntrygrl]

Originally posted by BLK03GXS@May 25 2004, 06:39 PM

Refrance the Manual.. i have one too... and if you pull out the trim for the shifter... you can see the cable that keeps it locked into reverse... when the key is out.. you can just unhook that and keep it tyght... but just remember to put ure e-brake on... that feature seems to be there on our cars for 2 reasons.. cus the e-brakes suck... and cus there is NO ignition lock on our cars... (anti theft)

thanks, um yeah, i can attest to the e-brakes being a little poopty. i went to my brothers house on sunday and pulled up in the driveway, which is a decent little hill. i pulled the e-brake all the way up, let my foot off the brake and the car rolled about 8 feet back. my stupid ass was trying to make sure i had the e-brake pulled all the way instead of slamming on the brakes... no i'm not blonde either...

lol last post was funny.........but anyway.....im really good with wiring, wiring diagrams, and all this stuff, with a degree in electronics i better be right? now as far as the passlock works where does that go, I am looking at the wiring diagram on the haynes manual(for referance if anyone has it)...the wiring going into the key switch is red, then coming out its yellow, after it goes through the gears to make sure it only starts in park or neutral it turns into purple which then goes to the starter solenoid, my question is where inline does the passlock go, if not inline which wire should I tap into?

[smokinAMD]

Take your car to Firestone, they will tighten up the e-brake for $15. I had that done to my car when I got an alignment done. And boy, is it ever tight. Pull that sucker back 2 clicks and the back wheels LOCK up.

[cutelilcntrygrl]

Originally posted by smokinAMD@May 27 2004, 02:41 AM
Take your car to Firestone, they will tighten up the e-brake for $15. I had that done to my car when I got an alignment done. And boy, is it ever tight. Pull that sucker back 2 clicks and the back wheels LOCK up.

Thx. I need to get my tires rotated anyway so I'll have them do that also.

[FormulaNERD]

for those of us who prefer to maintain our own cars, does anyone know the procedure to tighten up the e-brake on our own? the haynes basically says that the e-brake runs off the rear pads, and the rear pads must be bad. which i know isn't true.

hey nerd, yes you can tighten up your e-brake yourself.. all you have to do it take off the back tire and there is a little hole that you need to take a flathead screw driver and push the little notch down i think...

Originally posted by mikegett@May 25 2004, 11:13 AM
brsexton
I think that you are right that the alero's should have the passlock. The 2004 web page lists it under standard options. However, mine may not be working. I do not have security or a passlock light that lights on my dash. I did have to have my ignition changed a month after I bought the car. The curious thing is that I asked if they needed both of my keys for to be recoded to the ignition. I was told that they did not need them for my car. I know that the old systems had to code the key. Does anyone know how the newer system works?

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the new system uses a tumbler based code.
If the key doesnt flip the tumbler at the right millisecond, the BCM doesn't recieve the correct signal it will cut off the fuel supply to the engine after a few seconds.

Originally posted by mikegett@May 25 2004, 11:13 AM
brsexton
I think that you are right that the alero's should have the passlock. The 2004 web page lists it under standard options. However, mine may not be working. I do not have security or a passlock light that lights on my dash. I did have to have my ignition changed a month after I bought the car. The curious thing is that I asked if they needed both of my keys for to be recoded to the ignition. I was told that they did not need them for my car. I know that the old systems had to code the key. Does anyone know how the newer system works?

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the new system uses a tumbler based code.
If the key doesnt flip the tumbler at the right millisecond, the BCM doesn't recieve the correct signal it will cut off the fuel supply to the engine after a few seconds.

Originally posted by mikegett@May 25 2004, 11:13 AM
brsexton
I think that you are right that the alero's should have the passlock. The 2004 web page lists it under standard options. However, mine may not be working. I do not have security or a passlock light that lights on my dash. I did have to have my ignition changed a month after I bought the car. The curious thing is that I asked if they needed both of my keys for to be recoded to the ignition. I was told that they did not need them for my car. I know that the old systems had to code the key. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW THE NEW SYSTEM WORKS?

YEP, THE NEW SYSTEM USES A TUMBLER BASED SIGNAL CALLED AN R-CODE. THE R-CODE IS GENERATED BY THE KEY TURNING THE TUMBLERS AT THE EXACT MILLLI-SECOND. IF THE KEY DOESN'T TURN THE TUMBLERS AT THE RIGHT TIME THE CAR WILL START AND THEN DIE, DUE TO THE SYSTEM CUTTING OFF THE FUEL SUPPLY. IF THIS HAPPENS MORE THAN 3 TIMES IN A ROW IN 10 MIN. YOU HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 15 MINS BEFORE YOU CAN TURN ON THE CAR, EVEN WITH THE KEY.

-Dean

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