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whiterider00 · 09-05-2011, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tylershiltz05

..especially when my cars ECU is telling me the horsepower and torque it has..

i effing love this...

Shiwnath · 09-05-2011, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by whiterider00

i effing love this...

Aleros come with a built in dyno..everyone knows this.

Shiwnath · 09-05-2011, 01:57 AM

OK...i tried being nice and helping you out, but you clearly have no f**king clue about what the hell you are doing or what you are talking about. If these chips were all they were cracked up to be then everyone would be running them. Plus I also call major BS on you being able to beat a mustang with 210 HP..where did this race happen? Was he racing? Were you actually at a track? Was he sleeping? Also...I'll say it again...unlike your Alero, mine is truely tuned...wheres my 50HP? Understand what the IAT sensor does and what the G Force is actually doing before you come here talking smack.

Shiwnath · 09-05-2011, 02:05 AM

Also the fact that you have a V8 sticker backs up my claim further that you have no idea wtf you are doing or talking about.

P.S. Welcome to Aleromod. I don't think you're stupid.. Just uneducated on the topic of performance mods... It's not too late to learn man..do a lotta reading and you'll be fine.

SIUlero · 09-05-2011, 02:22 AM

I see one of two things happening here. (1) You're a 16 year old kid, this is your first car, and you know absolutely nothing about the way a car works; or (2) You're a troll whose just trying to stir up shit on our forum. If it's (2), just GTFO now. But if it's (1), I hope you won't get too discouraged by everyone here trying to fill you in on the truths that have been discovered about Aleros by the members of this site over the past decade. It's an EXCELLENT knowledge base, and a great place to learn everything you want to know about your car. Welcome to the site.

The truth is, there is no "magic chip" that can unlock 45 or 50 hp from an Alero by itself. What you're feeling is more of a placebo effect: you know it's supposed to feel faster, so you think it is. If one of us was to take that chip out of your car tonight without you knowing, and you drove it tomorrow, you most likely wouldn't even notice a difference. Also, the PCM can't tell you how much power the engine is creating, so plugging a tool into the OBD-II port (equipped in every car since 1996) to communicate with the PCM can't tell you that either. The BEST it can do is theorize (with a VERY wide margin for error). As for your other point, stock V6 Mustangs have never been able to keep up with stock 3400 Aleros. You say this race was done at a track? Do you have a timeslip? You can get close estimates on horsepower and torque using the numbers from track slips. You could submit that as actual proof of the power increase you're claiming.

tylershiltz05 · 09-05-2011, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SIUlero

I see one of two things happening here. (1) You're a 16 year old kid, this is your first car, and you know absolutely nothing about the way a car works; or (2) You're a troll whose just trying to stir up shit on our forum. If it's (2), just GTFO now. But if it's (1), I hope you won't get too discouraged by everyone here trying to fill you in on the truths that have been discovered about Aleros by the members of this site over the past decade. It's an EXCELLENT knowledge base, and a great place to learn everything you want to know about your car. Welcome to the site.

The truth is, there is no "magic chip" that can unlock 45 or 50 hp from an Alero by itself. What you're feeling is more of a placebo effect: you know it's supposed to feel faster, so you think it is. If one of us was to take that chip out of your car tonight without you knowing, and you drove it tomorrow, you most likely wouldn't even notice a difference. Also, the PCM can't tell you how much power the engine is creating, so plugging a tool into the OBD-II port (equipped in every car since 1996) to communicate with the PCM can't tell you that either. The BEST it can do is theorize (with a VERY wide margin for error). As for your other point, stock V6 Mustangs have never been able to keep up with stock 3400 Aleros. You say this race was done at a track? Do you have a timeslip? You can get close estimates on horsepower and torque using the numbers from track slips. You could submit that as actual proof of the power increase you're claiming.

ok..thats nice..like i said before, i dont give a eff wat u stupid ahoes are saying..as long as i know my self, thats all that matters..

Shiwnath · 09-06-2011, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tylershiltz05

ok..thats nice..like i said before, i dont give a eff wat u stupid ahoes are saying..as long as i know my self, thats all that matters..

Actually...you're the stupid dumb ass that knows nothing about cars and comes here to praise a bull shit product that yeilds no results what so ever and when you're given feedback by your peers who actually know what they're talking about and know about the true science behind the g force chip, you still try to act like you're right? You have a lot of growing up to do kid.

jhubbz · 09-05-2011, 04:39 AM

My only question about this chip is if it were a truly accurate tool, it was differentiate between a LA1, LD9 and an L61. Not whether it was a 2 dr or 4 dr like it asks on the site.

Anyway, those gauges are awesome. I'll Prob be getting some in the future. Thanks for sharing the info for them! What background did you use? I'm thinking about the reverse glow black with cool blue lettering and blue LEDs behind it

tylershiltz05 · 09-05-2011, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jhubbz

My only question about this chip is if it were a truly accurate tool, it was differentiate between a LA1, LD9 and an L61. Not whether it was a 2 dr or 4 dr like it asks on the site.

Anyway, those gauges are awesome. I'll Prob be getting some in the future. Thanks for sharing the info for them! What background did you use? I'm thinking about the reverse glow black with cool blue lettering and blue LEDs behind it

yep no problem..i used a jet black background..with blue letters/numbers/and symbols..and im just gonna let these other no lifers talk to thereselves on my post..ha

zearchyo · 09-05-2011, 10:52 AM

damn thank god i never wrote an introductory thread of my self here on the forum. i just started posting little by little

cherrington17 · 09-05-2011, 10:59 AM

I miss having the veterans who actually knew every little detail about the engine, mods, what they did, and how they did, as frequent posters.

Tyler, where did this chip go, specifically? As in, where does it plug into, in the car?

zearchyo · 09-05-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrington17

Tyler, where did this chip go, specifically? As in, where does it plug into, in the car?

sorry but i think its to late for tyler now, hes no longer with us, he might have gone some where better than here

billytheman1188 · 09-05-2011, 01:28 PM

LMAO @ the drop down box on the gforce site.....hahahahaha. This poor kid.....didn't even know what he was getting himself into :/ Another one bites the dust

rustyballs_69 · 09-05-2011, 10:30 PM

From G-Force website

What can G-Force Performance Chips do for you?
Our vehicle specific performance ECU chips are custom tuned, designed and tested per application, providing the absolute best performance, power, and fuel economy for your vehicle. They feature an easy "plug and play" installation to your car's factory harness and maintain the vehicle's warranty with absolutely no negative side effects. This is a "ZERO" risk installation, and is guaranteed not to interfere with your factory warranty on your vehicle.

http://www.gforcechips.com/terms-conditions.aspx

Disclaimer
Our claims of gains of fuel economy and power and performance found throughout this website is based on direct customer feedback and not actual tests. The advertising found throughout is based on claims provided by customers just like yourself, who purchased our product and reported back the gains. Actual results may vary, and are covered by a 100% money-back guarantee.

cherrington17 · 09-06-2011, 06:28 AM

So it IS one of those "IAT Chips"....?

cavaliers60 · 09-06-2011, 08:40 AM

read these... Just two cases of these scam chips...

click me!

And me!!!

cherrington17 · 09-06-2011, 03:37 PM

In full functionality, the IAT sensor:
"Intake Air Temperature (IAT) Sensor
OPERATION
The Intake Air Temperature (IAT) sensor resistance changes in response to the intake air temperature. The sensor resistance decreases as the surrounding air temperature increases. This provides a signal to the PCM, indicating the temperature of the incoming air charge."
(Taken from: http://www.freeautomechanic.com/iat-...mperature.html )

What you bought, its a large resistor, that alters that sensor's ability to read the proper temperature, which causes the car's PCM (we don't have ECU's on our cars) to read that the air is denser than it actually is, causing it to push the maximum amount of gas it can allow, through your fuel regulator.

I have a question about your logic as to your purchase. Do you really think, Gforce, as company, employs engineers who know the inner workings of the engine better, than GM does? (a "yes" would mean they have people who have completely reverse engineered the entire block, and found weak points in it, that could be fixed with a small plug in box, that can be bought for.... less than $50... that GM THEMSELVES didn't know about)

I will restate my question once more.... Yes or no....
Do you really think, Gforce, as company, employs engineers who know the inner workings of the engine better, than GM does?

natedawg9640 · 09-06-2011, 04:51 PM

Please, when you turn 18, and you watch political debates.... don't get off the couch on voting day. Just stay home.

zearchyo · 09-06-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by natedawg9640

Please, when you turn 18, and you watch political debates.... don't get off the couch on voting day. Just stay home.

damn that was cold

adam337 · 09-06-2011, 08:25 PM

Im going to go easy on you because I know that you're probably a retarded 16yr old. Don't worry about it and don't take offense.. we were all retarded 16yr olds at one point. But the fact is your car is NOT a limited edition, and it is NOT a V8; those emblems just scream "I JUST GOT MAI LICENSE I AM AWESOOOOM".
Also theres no way in eff that your car has 220hp. Stop being a douche bag to the people calling you out on that and apologize.
Welcome to the site, I hope you can stay and actually learn something about cars instead of just assuming because you have one you're some sort of badass knowitall.