03-22-2007, 08:49 AM
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lots of research for performance parts.
Secret Cam Swap
2.3HO intake manifold swap
the headers you put up are the same ones
i'm havin a brain fart...i can't remember anything else...
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03-22-2007, 09:24 AM
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http://quad4forums.com/
Information and classifieds...
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03-22-2007, 12:17 PM
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check out j-body.org
the cavalier guys are a lot more performance driven than alero owners, in general. you'll find a lot more information, as well as parts for sale in their classifieds section. that's where i bought my supercharger, as well as other parts.
most of the time, bolt-on parts will be classified for the cavalier, but they have the same engine so it fits.
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03-22-2007, 08:07 PM
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yeah i heard bout the secret swap in the other threads and its got me wanting to go the junk yard to look at the older grand ams for the HO stuff. I know the exhaust cam part number is #24570698 (from oldmans posts) so does this mean i can buy a new one at a autoparts store?
1995 2.3L quad intake cam, and a 1991-94 quad 2.3 exhaust cam are the secret cams. So this includes sunfire and grandam right?
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03-22-2007, 09:33 PM
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the race shop is better than mantapart. RSM is over priced.
as for the cams yes the exhaust cam can be gotten at autozone. but if you put in a brand new cam i always recommend new lifters also.
The intake cam is from a 1995 (only) 2.3L Quad 4 engine.. the eighth digit in the VIN is a letter D. Can be found in 1995 Cavalier Z24, Sunfire GT, and Olds Achieva
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03-22-2007, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsman
the race shop is better than mantapart. RSM is over priced.
as for the cams yes the exhaust cam can be gotten at autozone. but if you put in a brand new cam i always recommend new lifters also.
The intake cam is from a 1995 (only) 2.3L Quad 4 engine.. the eighth digit in the VIN is a letter D. Can be found in 1995 Cavalier Z24, Sunfire GT, and Olds Achieva
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Thankz for the info oldsman, hey why dont u get a bodykit? At least the razzi kit. Just my opinion and i say this cause your car looks totally stock until I saw your engine man great job thats what im planning for my 2.4, and i like your idea of making it look like the OSV. I hope your not done.
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03-22-2007, 10:27 PM
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sleeper ftw
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03-23-2007, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DOHC_tuner
Thankz for the info oldsman, hey why dont u get a bodykit? At least the razzi kit. Just my opinion and i say this cause your car looks totally stock until I saw your engine man great job thats what im planning for my 2.4, and i like your idea of making it look like the OSV. I hope your not done.
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I have thought about the razzi but there is only 1 body kit for my car being i have the OSV suspension, brakes, and rims and tires.
oh and trust me i am not done.
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03-23-2007, 08:05 AM
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oh to answer the 5-spd in a 99 well you can get the getrag out of alero or grandam. not sure if one out of a cav will work due to mounts are different.
the biggest issue is you would need the wiring for it and the only way to do the computer is get a hp tuners setup and hopefully you can get the program for the tranny. if not then it's stand alone.
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03-23-2007, 07:48 PM
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the j-body getrag will work, you just need the nbody mounts...
What sensors go into the auto tranny? all you need for the manual tranny is the VSS sensor and that's it..
With HPTuners you can just upload a 5spd flash and go on your way, or just have the dealership flash you with the appropriate calibration.
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03-24-2007, 10:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsman
the race shop is better than mantapart. RSM is over priced.
as for the cams yes the exhaust cam can be gotten at autozone. but if you put in a brand new cam i always recommend new lifters also.
The intake cam is from a 1995 (only) 2.3L Quad 4 engine.. the eighth digit in the VIN is a letter D. Can be found in 1995 Cavalier Z24, Sunfire GT, and Olds Achieva
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Do I have to get the camshaft lobe lifters from the 2.3 to accomodate the HO camshafts? And what else will I need to get the full potential of the secret cam swap?
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03-24-2007, 11:12 PM
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the 2.4 lifters work fine with the 2.3 cams. the only things that really help to get the power from the cams is polish and ported head, intake, TB, and exhaust.
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03-25-2007, 05:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldsman
the 2.4 lifters work fine with the 2.3 cams. the only things that really help to get the power from the cams is polish and ported head, intake, TB, and exhaust.
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Don't forget getting the car tuned properly to actually take advantage of the mods.
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03-25-2007, 09:30 PM
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thankz for the info i just asking cause i just had my head taken for a vavle job and i remember about the secret cams and since i had them out. I couldn't find the intake cam so ill wait till i get the 2.3 intake manifold with the 2.4 flange. But i can't wait to save up the funds for the conversion!!!!!!!
THANKZ ALERO TUNERZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-27-2007, 11:50 PM
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why dont the autoparts carry the intake camshafts for the secrect swap? MANNNNNNNN THIS SUCKS
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03-28-2007, 09:59 AM
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you can get them from gm...they're about 600$ CAD tho..haha...just check out scrapyards and you'll be good
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03-28-2007, 12:45 PM
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As for the 2.3 HO intake manifold it has to be customed with a 2.4 flange welded on to accept the head ports right? or well it match with no modifications, and i ask this because i seen some on sell on ebay.
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03-28-2007, 02:49 PM
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you gotta modify the holes on the manifold, and i'm pretty sure you gotta have something ground down...my manifold was already ready when i got it and just bolted on...Oldsman knows this best
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03-28-2007, 09:46 PM
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well i took a trip to the pick and pull and i found a lots of grand ams with the 2.3 intake manifold. I even saw a 2.3 single cam which i was surprised that they were made also. Well i have access to over 20 2.3 intake manifolds, so does it matter if its a single cam or if its not the GT vehicle. Also does any one know about how to get the 2.4 flange on the 2.3 intake manifold, just think it would be cheaper if i do it myself but the problem is our factory intake manifold is plastic so how do i get the flange on a aluminum manifold. I coudn't find the IDI cover that says HIGH OUTPUT only the one that has guad 4.
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