05-22-2007, 11:27 PM
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sub box shape
does the shape of the box matter?
for my kickers that i ordered tonite, i'm making the box a 14" x 14" x 15.5" box. this makes it right at 1.75 cubic feet. (about 1.7538)
is a cube a good box shape or should i go different
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05-23-2007, 12:11 AM
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shape doesn't matter.... it's all displacement
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05-23-2007, 01:19 AM
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your supposed to research what size box your subs hit the hardest at and then make that size box.
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05-23-2007, 01:25 PM
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also u need to brace the box too
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05-23-2007, 02:30 PM
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i did research the size, and 1.75 ft is perfect, especially if i want to go ported later, i was just wondering if the size mattered.. but if its just displacement, and the size doesnt matter, then im good. thanks guys
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- 2x kicker cvr's on 650wrms mono amp
- pioneer 4900iB head unit
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05-23-2007, 02:31 PM
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and what do you mean brace the box? to the car? or inside the box??
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- 2x kicker cvr's on 650wrms mono amp
- pioneer 4900iB head unit
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05-23-2007, 06:39 PM
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trust me with those cvr's you won't need to brace it, just make sure you use 3/4 mdf
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05-24-2007, 01:32 AM
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ok, i used 3/4 mdf board.. and the boxes are finished execpt for the front, its going to my dad's machine shop to get the 12" circle cut out... then itll be put onto the box.. and then itll be carpeted
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- pioneer 4900iB head unit
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05-24-2007, 04:36 AM
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one more thing.. if i were to port the boxes, what frequency should i port them to? and how long should the tubes be and the hole
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- 2x kicker cvr's on 650wrms mono amp
- pioneer 4900iB head unit
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05-24-2007, 08:16 AM
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you could port the boxes..... but i wouldn't recommend it unless you know exactly what your doing.
the size and length of the ports is dependant on the sub and how big of a box you're making. If you're making the box for 1.75ft^3 then odds are for a ported you'll need the box to be around 2.25ft^3 and then you'd have to calculate out the length of the port. From where you're at right now I would say just leave it as sealed and you'll be happy.
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05-24-2007, 05:15 PM
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recommended for sealed: 1.0 ft^3 to 4.6 ft^3
recommended for ported: 1.75 ft^3 to 2.25 ft^3
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2004 Olds Alero GL1 3400 V6
- infinity kappa speakers all around on an mtx 450wrms 4ch amp
- 2x kicker cvr's on 650wrms mono amp
- pioneer 4900iB head unit
Last edited by white04alero : 05-24-2007 at 05:16 PM.
Reason: forgot to add "to 2.25 ft^3"
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05-24-2007, 08:41 PM
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Are you wanted to vent it or use aeroports? WHen I build ported enclosures, I always use the "vented" or "L port" method.
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05-24-2007, 09:13 PM
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you're doing 2 12's right?
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05-25-2007, 12:27 AM
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yeah in single boxes, and im talking about ports.. the circle holes with the tube in them
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- pioneer 4900iB head unit
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05-25-2007, 09:14 AM
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ahh best bet... download winisd
try to tune for 40hz with a delay less than 10ms... even 10ms is borderline for me... especially if your listening to rap music and such... that'll give you what you need
i know in my old ported box (phoenix gold 12") it was 3" wide and about 10" or so deep... don't remember off the top of my head though... so i wouldn't use those values
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05-25-2007, 09:37 AM
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i have winisd.. but i just dont know how to use it after you put in all the parameters.. im winisd-tarded
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05-25-2007, 09:53 AM
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and i have one more question.. about the subs.. ok.. right now i have a scosche 550 watt max amplifier.. and i am getting the money for the 500 dollar 750wrms kicker amp to power the 2 subs.. now.. my q is can i power the 2 subs with the scosche for a while and then hit em with the 750 or should i just wait and install them when i get the 750? will underpowering them so much with the scosche hurt them? its a 150 dollar (buy one get one free) investment that i want to make work for me when i can.. so can anyone help me? will the underpowerment of my 550 watt max amp hurt the nice 400 wrms of the kickers?
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- pioneer 4900iB head unit
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05-25-2007, 10:22 AM
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nah... you'll be fine. The only time underpowering speakers is an issue is if your max power is about 15-20% of what the sub can handle. If you're at about 50% you'll be fine.
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05-25-2007, 10:23 AM
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As for WinISD I'll see if I can do anything tomorrow. I don't have it installed and I'm at work till 5 and then I'm visiting my folks this weekend.
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05-26-2007, 02:07 AM
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i appreciate it thanks
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