05-30-2008, 06:12 PM
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to good to be true
while looking through the j-body classifieds i found this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=200227430017
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05-30-2008, 06:30 PM
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The casting numbers are correct so I would think they are the right ones.
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05-30-2008, 06:34 PM
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they're all over the place for that price. of course it's real. secret cams are posted up on j-body classifieds almost every day for $100
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05-30-2008, 07:54 PM
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Yeah it's really not that expensive to do the cam swap, and it's pretty beneficial.
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05-30-2008, 08:57 PM
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the problem with the cam swap is the difficulty of installation. all the timing components need to be removed when installing the cams. it can get fishy if you don't know what you're doing, but by all means.....
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05-31-2008, 01:24 AM
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How do you know the right position for the cams when you put the chain back on? I always wondered that. I guess screwing your valves is not something you want to happen...
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Originally Posted by Alerosaint
the #6 bolt torque..its impossible to get...unless I use telekenesis
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05-31-2008, 09:58 AM
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there's markings and i have an engine overhaul manual that tells you how to do everything if you want it lol
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05-31-2008, 11:41 AM
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Usually you put the motor at top dead center and there should be marks on the cam gears which you line up so they are pointing at each other and it should turn right on. I am just speakign in general for motors I have no idea if the cam sprockets are marked on the 2.4.
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05-31-2008, 12:25 PM
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what the cam swap does? gives more hp? i'm rebuilding my blown engine so i'm thinking maybe geting them if it does something  sorry i'm a noob on engines don't know anything about them :P
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05-31-2008, 12:48 PM
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Hot and Fluffy.
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then maybe rebuilding is a bad idea.
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05-31-2008, 01:03 PM
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i'm not the one who is rebuilding my macanic is now i'm just looking for the parts and ect... :P
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05-31-2008, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marrko
my macanic is
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Is that a new slang for Mechanic? haven't heard that one before... |
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05-31-2008, 03:32 PM
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636 whp
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native language != english
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05-31-2008, 03:33 PM
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if you put high performance cams in, dont you have to change other stuff too..... you cant just put the cams in and say....ok, im done. lol
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05-31-2008, 03:37 PM
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thanks guys for the reply..i just wanted a second opinion, i didn't wanna end up with the stock cams or get screwed over.
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the problem with the cam swap is the difficulty of installation. all the timing components need to be removed when installing the cams. it can get fishy if you don't know what you're doing, but by all means.....
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it wont be that bad because the timing chain snapped so i'm gonna replace the chain, head, water pump and cams all at the same time. |
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05-31-2008, 04:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billytheman1188
if you put high performance cams in, dont you have to change other stuff too..... you cant just put the cams in and say....ok, im done. lol
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a tune would be nice but nope |
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05-31-2008, 06:03 PM
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Hot and Fluffy.
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Quote:
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i'm not the one who is rebuilding my macanic is now i'm just looking for the parts and ect... :P |
If you're rebuilding and you're having a Mech do it. Go for the secret cam swap and get it all covered now. Instead of having to pay to have someone go back in and do it later.
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05-31-2008, 06:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billytheman1188
if you put high performance cams in, dont you have to change other stuff too..... you cant just put the cams in and say....ok, im done. lol
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when you put your exhaust, you put it on your car and said: "Ok im done" I suppose.
High performance cams are only more aggressive cams.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/camshaft1.htm
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Originally Posted by Alerosaint
the #6 bolt torque..its impossible to get...unless I use telekenesis
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06-02-2008, 06:53 PM
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the cams are a nice swap, i did it to my cavalier and also did the 2.3 throttle also and bump the fuel pressure about 5 psi more to compensate for the low end loss and OMG this thing was crasy fast, S&^% i even got better gas mileage.
this pic was with just the HO throttle and the cams.
http://b6.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/0...27970326_l.jpg
this pic is with the ho maifold, throtle, cams and bumped the pressure up 5 psi.
http://a442.ac-images.myspacecdn.com...871aa8c821.jpg
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06-02-2008, 07:29 PM
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i never would of thought of bumping up the fuel pressure a lil bit..how did you do it FPR or HP Tuners??
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