08-30-2009, 11:00 AM
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hey guys... so i'm not sure if there is a problem with my clutch or not. i know it's a hydraulic clutch, but i'm not sure if i can adjust it. i think mines getting old and tired...
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08-30-2009, 11:11 AM
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how much travel before it grabs?
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08-30-2009, 11:38 AM
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is it slipping and not grabing
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08-30-2009, 11:54 PM
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i can move the pedal a couple inches before it does... but sometimes i think it grabs really hard and the car kinda jerks... and what do you mean by slipping... you mean while it's in gear?
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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08-30-2009, 11:57 PM
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if its not slipping instead of taking off hard when you accelerate hard, its fine. i know my dads beater truck i use only has about a inch on total use right at the top, but it doesn't slip so its good for a lil while yet.
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08-31-2009, 12:01 AM
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oh... ya... if i put it in first and just let it idle around... then floor it the tires squawk and she takes off.
and it moves about a few inches without anything... then it just engages as i move it out... slowly... if that makes sense. the clutch doesn't just go on instantly
and i haven't exactly been easy on this clutch... i often rev it and pop it... i know i shouldn't but blackies and smoke are fun
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
Last edited by colonel6632 : 08-31-2009 at 12:19 AM.
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08-31-2009, 12:52 AM
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^ from the sounds of things there is nothing wrong at all with your clutch.
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01 YZ125- bored out to 144, PnP cylinder and head, Pro Circuit WORKS suspension, many other mods
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08-31-2009, 12:57 AM
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thanks man... just wanted to make sure
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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08-31-2009, 10:48 PM
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if you want to know if the clutch and pressure plate is ok put the first gear until 3000 rpm shift de 5th gear, drop the clutch and put the accelerator to the floor.... if your rpm dont grow for nothing....everything allright.
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08-31-2009, 11:23 PM
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Hydraulic clutches are self adjusting. Your symptoms are due to normal wear and tear and include things like wear on the flywheel and the clutch plate itself becoming warped over time.
Clutches wear like this naturally. If its not slipping, and driveability is not affected in a disturbing way, then you're good. But if you plan to keep the car for awhile, you might want to do your homework on replacement. 10-20k more miles might be the point where it starts getting worse, and if it does than you'll already have some knowledge about how to fix it.
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08-31-2009, 11:56 PM
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well... the car was acting like this when i bought it 60xxxkm ago. still seems the same. i do have some problems getting my car into first sometimes from a stop and sometimes it grinds a little going into third. transmission problem?
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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09-01-2009, 01:08 AM
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just a question, how long have you driven a stick?
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09-01-2009, 02:22 AM
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for about 60xxxkm lol. i had a car about a year before that was stick... and only owned it for 3 weeks. i'm pretty much learning on this car. i by no mean know how to drive a stick properly... i just get from a to b without stalling.
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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09-01-2009, 02:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colonel6632
for about 60xxxkm lol. i had a car about a year before that was stick... and only owned it for 3 weeks. i'm pretty much learning on this car. i by no mean know how to drive a stick properly... i just get from a to b without stalling.
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You'll catch on I learned during a snowy November, now that I have an auto I miss driving standard. Use the time you have before it snows to improve.
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09-01-2009, 02:40 AM
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lol. i got it a year ago now... and i'm trying to learn... i'm much better than before
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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09-01-2009, 10:39 PM
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Something to consider because the system is hydraulic is the fluid and wear on parts. With a honda in my past the secondary cyl, on the trans, starting leaking, well sweating fluid, over time air got past the seals and gave the pedal a mushy feel, but then insto-engagement and as you said difficulty going into first or reverse. Meaning it was disengaging, but not entirely.
Quick fix was to bleed the fluid with new. Total fix was replace emtn of the secondary cyl and again fluis the fluid, witch is regular dot 3 brake fluid. I dont remember exactly what the manual says, but I flush my brake fluid every 2 years or 30,000 miles.
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09-01-2009, 11:19 PM
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well i'll do a flush and see if that helps. i know this winter after my engine was replaced the clutch stopped working at -40. the clutch went down but nothing happened... bled the clutch and it's been working since...
and i appreciate all the help i'm receiving in the thread. thanks guys!
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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09-02-2009, 08:51 AM
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Problems getting into gear and grinding is the syncros, not the clutch. That's a much bigger job - make sure you try to rev-match as much as possible so that they don't have to work as hard to slow down/speed up the engine when you cram it in gear.
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09-02-2009, 09:19 AM
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Not necessarily, when the clutch or pressure plate/flywheel assembly is warped, you can get similar symptoms.
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09-02-2009, 09:48 AM
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well i guess i'll just keep driving it until something breaks
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2002 Alero w/ 2.2 ecotec 5 speed
power window conversion, heated leather seats, 16" rims, high & low hids, auto dimming rear mirror, speedbuilt front and rear sway bars, poly bushings all around.
2005 Silverado 2500HD w/ 6.0l Vortec 4L80E
Tuned 6.0l, exhaust, intake, with 450000km on the odometer. Tow Rig
1985 Pontiac Trans Am GTA w/ 5.7 Vortec 700r4
mild vortec 350 with 4 speed auto. performance suspension. factory gold color. project car
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