Bodykit Painting

[Str33tRacer]

Exactly how hard is it? My uncle owns a paint shop so the paint and tools is not the problem. He does painting on houses and walls so is it any different? The prices around here are F-ing rediculous. About $1500 for a standard bodykit painting. My plans are to get the Kato Kit. My other Question with the kato kit is how low is it in the rear? I have a 40 series that is tucked up perfectly to the bumper. Would this be a problem??

[Coupe]

OMG, since you asked the questions that you did you need to pay a professional.
$1500 is a damn good price

[Alero2k4]

Originally posted by Coupe@Mar 31 2006, 12:15 PM
OMG, since you asked the questions that you did you need to pay a professional.
$1500 is a damn good price
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Maybe for a whole car!!! Around here we can get it MOLDED in and painted for like 500-800!!!

[Coupe]

Originally posted by Alero2k4+Mar 31 2006, 07:24 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Alero2k4 @ Mar 31 2006, 07:24 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Coupe@Mar 31 2006, 12:15 PM
OMG, since you asked the questions that you did you need to pay a professional.
$1500 is a damn good price
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Maybe for a whole car!!! Around here we can get it MOLDED in and painted for like 500-800!!!
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I dont see how that is possible. I know how much it costs for material. My hood costed $225 in just material and then 3 hours labor. Came out to roughly $400.

[johny_boy32]

Originally posted by Coupe+Mar 31 2006, 07:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Coupe @ Mar 31 2006, 07:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Alero2k4@Mar 31 2006, 07:24 PM
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OMG, since you asked the questions that you did you need to pay a professional.
$1500 is a damn good price
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Maybe for a whole car!!! Around here we can get it MOLDED in and painted for like 500-800!!!
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I dont see how that is possible. I know how much it costs for material. My hood costed $225 in just material and then 3 hours labor. Came out to roughly $400.
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you got f*cking hosed then, i got my body kit painted and installed for under 300.

[AftermathAlero]

You pay for what you get!. A good bodyshop will paint a kit for no less then 600-800 bucks w/install. Unless you know someone with the hookup.

But to Alero2k4, damn 500-800 bucks for molding kit and painting .. I dunno what kind of work they do. But mininum charge for molding in a whole kit front, rear , sides is around 1200-1500 bucks without paint price.

To str33treacer; I think the bodyshop you went to dont want to paint the kit, thats why they told you a really high price. But painting houses from cars is really different night and day difference.

[BlackJack]

damn, remind me not to move to MI. I got quotes from 5 different shops that average $500. That's for ME to do all the finish work, bring in the pieces ready to go, and they just shoot the primer and paint. I could see having to pay $1,000 if I had them do all the prep and spot repairs.

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

^ word. I got a quote on repainting my rear bumper and it was $300 for stripping, re-prep, prime, and paint. I would guess that getting a bodykit painted (assuming you already fitted it and prepped it) should be just shy of $600.

[johny_boy32]

i've brought a lot of work to my body shop so they give me quite a good deal, plus its excellent work. My car's actually in the body shop getting some fenders molded and my front bumper repainted (long story).

[Str33tRacer]

so, can anybody answer the whole fitting of the rear kit with the muffler? will it scrape?

[ppgnut]

house painting is nothing like painting a car unless you like the roller look
1,500 is not that bad that is a good price if it includes mounting the kit preping painting labor material cost,
you get what ya pay for bottom line you want cheap it will look cheap you want nice you willpay for nice
nothing in this poopty trade is cheap the trade that i have chosen is not a easy one, and take years of experience to make any kind of money
so my advice shop around get the better price ask around too about the shops work

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

If you live near a big city, there's bound to be a local car forum (here in Buffalo, there's 3 pretty big ones...). When you find one, ask them what shops they would recommend.

[Str33tRacer]

i live close to minneapolis and the prices kill me. It wouldnt be a roller because he uses a sprayer as well.... and the 1200 price is just for painting it.... no install molding or fitting

[natedawg9640]

a house paint sprayer is totally different than a HVLP sprayer... first off your are spraying latex paint... which has the consistancy of a large orgasm... so that tip is useless... spraying stain is like spraying water... if you do spray it yourself go to the hardware store and spend 80$ on a gravity feed high volume low pressure spray gun... go rent a compressor if you have no access to one... prep your garage with a fan and a filter in the door and lots of lights... if you don't have access to a paint booth... ask around for tips on prepping... follow the mixing instructions for the activator and stuff... make sure you clean the gun well after each use and especially after each clearcoat... test spray the gun on something and make sure the width of the spray is good for you and you aren't putting more paint and clear into the air than you are onto the car... paint the pieces... 3 coats of base should be fine... 3 coats of clear should be ok... it's not rocket science... just test it on somehting else so you are comfortable spraying... this eclipse (i've posted before)... was my first attempt at painting a car... i did it in a garage... it turned out well...
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[SweetNLow]

nice job dude im impressed

[Oldsmopimp]

Krylon that female dog and be done

[natedawg9640]

oh... and you can either do the two stage... base coat then clear coat... or you can do acrylic enamel... clear and color in one... the 2 stage looks better IMO though... it just takes longer to do and it's more difficult...

[natedawg9640]

Originally posted by Oldsmopimp@Apr 2 2006, 10:17 PM
Krylon that female dog and be done
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sadly i know of people who have done that... yeesh :Noooo:

[Str33tRacer]

krylon GOOD ONE not. I just realized by dad has bought a spray gun for repraying cars and we have a compressor for it. Its just hitting me that i can do it myself its just i might F it up big time, thats why i was looking to my uncle because he spends alot of time painting, not nesiicarily cars but he knows alot more than me. If i go to a car paint store thats local that has matches exact paint for me before, i should be able to get by with what 2 gallons? just a guess and the same with clear coat? i mean ive reprayed pannels from bondo and rust repair but never a full kit

[Menace]

eclipse looks good g/j

[sound_xtreme]

2 gallons?!?! u should only need half a gallon of color if you're just shooting the outside. I'd still get a gallon to be on the safe side. but i only used a little over half a gallon and i did the whole car, jams and all. of course you still need clear, etc.

[ddba12]

Im actually having this done next week with the razzi kit that ime getting. My cousin has a private body shop and is painting the razzi kit for me at no charge. Yay lucky me!

[natedawg9640]

a half gallon is PLENTY... i did that eclipse with a half gallon... door jams too... i used a gallon of clear but it was for the whole car... if you are repainting your whole car i'd say a gallon... mabye an extra half gallon if you feel like you need it... dont forget you have to buy hardener for it too... painting is easy... clearing is a little tricky... like i said... do it on something else first to get the hang of it... you'll get it... i spent 300$ on paint, clear, and hardener... i picked my color out of a book and they just mixed the code... there should be a paint code on your car somewhere... prolly in the glovebox... so if you are just doing the kit pieces just give them your code and it should match right up... you should get by a little cheaper cause you shouldn't need so much of everything...

the acrylic enamel (base and clear in one) is cheaper to buy... it does look alright... i think poeople prefer the 2 step way becasue you can get a brighter finish... so that's recommended... :thumb:

[racin4JC]

Paint code is on dash looking throught the front window on the bottom driver side, or in the driver door jam.

[sound_xtreme]

also on the spare tire cover.

[2fst4u]

how bout the driver's door? i know it is on some cars.

[sound_xtreme]

not that i remember. i know it has the tire sizes and poop there. my sticker has been gone for a while so im not real sure anymore.

[violentrapture]

natedawg - awesome work man! Northern MI huh... Want to do mine after the show in Lansing? :P

[SilverBullet256]

this is really tempting me to re-paint me car, my godfather has a body repair shop in his garage and he will let me use the tools and everything and even help me if i need advice, and all i would need is the paint, if only i could get the right paint code....

[natedawg9640]

not northern MI... northern WI... 3 hours north of the wisconsin capitol... (madison)

[Redog]

$1500?

They see you comming a mile away.

I see cars in Philly and they talk about it costing them about $1500 to $2000 to paint a Civic. Nothing speical, just a basic color, clear coat, etc.

$400 to repaint, and put in an extra cutout, in my rear bumper. and they had my car about 3 days. :rolleyes:

[ppgnut]

Originally posted by natedawg9640@Apr 3 2006, 11:25 PM
a half gallon is PLENTY... i did that eclipse with a half gallon... door jams too... i used a gallon of clear but it was for the whole car... if you are repainting your whole car i'd say a gallon... mabye an extra half gallon if you feel like you need it... dont forget you have to buy hardener for it too... painting is easy... clearing is a little tricky... like i said... do it on something else first to get the hang of it... you'll get it... i spent 300$ on paint, clear, and hardener... i picked my color out of a book and they just mixed the code... there should be a paint code on your car somewhere... prolly in the glovebox... so if you are just doing the kit pieces just give them your code and it should match right up... you should get by a little cheaper cause you shouldn't need so much of everything...

the acrylic enamel (base and clear in one) is cheaper to buy... it does look alright... i think poeople prefer the 2 step way becasue you can get a brighter finish... so that's recommended... :thumb:
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easy huh easy you say huh ya right----------then why did you ask about blending the sail panels??? iam sorry we don`t use that product any more we use polyurathene base clear you really need to make sure you know what your talkin about before you have diahrrea of the hands

ok guys the paint code on gm`s cars are on the spare tire cover it is in the last row of numbers ending like this----12u and the "wa number is the last set of numbers at the very bottom of the row of numbers like this "wa 815"
the astro vans the mini vans are in the glove box
sorry but ya need more experience then that to respond to a automotive realted question

[natedawg9640]

Originally posted by ppgnut@Apr 4 2006, 09:26 PM
easy huh easy you say huh ya right----------then why did you ask about blending the sail panels??? iam sorry we don`t use that product any more we use polyurathene base clear you really need to make sure you know what your talkin about before you have diahrrea of the hands

ok guys the paint code on gm`s cars are on the spare tire cover it is in the last row of numbers ending like this----12u and the "wa number is the last set of numbers at the very bottom of the row of numbers like this "wa 815"
the astro vans the mini vans are in the glove box
sorry but ya need more experience then that to respond to a automotive realted question
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I don't know who "we" is... i'd imagine your shop... of which i do not belong to... nor do i work at one... i'm referring to the type of paint i bought at the paint store... and the only paint i am familiar with... it worked for me... and yes it was easy... and i asked about the blending becasue i don't know how to do it... i didn't have to do it... and he shouldn't have to do it... so that's irrelevent. i'm just saying that i had no prior training in technique or anything and it came out dandy.

[ppgnut]

"we" is in refernce to us body fender/painters, and nothing is irrevlent it all makes sense
so you don`t know how to do something but yet you give advice on painting
that makes no sense
but enjoy

[Str33tRacer]

wait im really confused. It costs about 300 bucks for 1/2 gallon of paint 1/2 gallon of clear and some hardware?!?!?

[AftermathAlero]

hahah 300? my dupont gallon of white paint, 2 quarts of blue, and 1 pint of silver paint, & 1 gallon of clear, all the reducers/activator totalled out to be 1200 bucks for my paint.

But ya.. paint materials is expensive!

[natedawg9640]

Originally posted by ppgnut@Apr 4 2006, 10:20 PM
"we"Â;-) is in refernce to us body fender/painters,Â;-) Â;-) and nothing is irrevlentÂ;-) it all makes senseÂ;-)
Â;-) Â;-) Â;-) so you don`t know how to do something but yet you give advice on painting
Â;-) that makes no sense
Â;-) but enjoy
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i dont recall giving advice on something i know nothing about... i asked you about blending clearcoat... did i give advice about blending clearcoat? no... case closed

str33tracer, why are you confused? is that higher or lower than you would expect?...

[sound_xtreme]

Originally posted by Str33tRacer@Apr 4 2006, 10:10 PM
wait im really confused. It costs about 300 bucks for 1/2 gallon of paint 1/2 gallon of clear and some hardware?!?!?
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def not, my paint costed over 600 after my discount of like 400.....

i could see 1 stage paint costing 300 maybe, but 1 stage sucks.

[natedawg9640]

I forgot what brand it was but yes... it only cost me 300$ for a half gallon of 1997 corvette blue metallic, reducer, hardener, and a gallon of clear coat. I got it from the NAPA here in town...

[sound_xtreme]

i wanna say they carry rebranded sherwin willams paint like martin somethin or other.

[natedawg9640]

no... well they might actually... but they carried 2 brands it hink... it was a brand name... i recognized it... i'll check on it and figure it out...

[sound_xtreme]

if it was dupont it was probably the nason line being that cheap.

[Str33tRacer]

that just seems expesive for 2 cans of paint sheeshe

[AftermathAlero]

Originally posted by sound_xtreme+Apr 5 2006, 11:49 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sound_xtreme @ Apr 5 2006, 11:49 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>i wanna say they carry rebranded sherwin willams paint like martin somethin or other.
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napa has Señor Martin paint brand

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that just seems expesive for 2 cans of paint sheeshe
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paint is alot more expensive than you think.

[natedawg9640]

well there's more to this stuff than a rattle can and propellent... or water and latex... it's damned expensinve... i've seen paint at 3k for a quart...

[Str33tRacer]

ooo so thats why? its not water based like spray paint its latex... right?

[SweetNLow]

i painted my car with an air sprayer and used sherwin williams green eggshell latex. i also used a 2ft wide tip on the gun. it looks great!

[SweetNLow]

seriously though painting a car is nothing like painting a house.

u better take it to a body shop and let them do it or it will just cost u more money in the long run

[Str33tRacer]

How much did that cost you? And the house thing isnt the point he works in the paint area, and i was just saying he owns a shop and knows more about painting anything more than me at least

[SweetNLow]

my dad is a painting contractor and ive been in the painting business myself for the past 5 years......... the only thing that carries over is knowing how to spray the paint....... in terms of the equipment/paint/prep work needed to be done to the kit......... a house painter will have no clue