I Dont Get It.....?

[whiteliquid]

Ok i posted about this not very long ago. :Noooo: When i try to start my car it shuts off everything. When i have the key in the acc spot everything works (lights, windows, sunroof, door locks) But when i try to start the car it all stops working and it's like the car shuts off all power to everything. The way i solve this is by unconnecting the battery and then reconecting it, again when i have my key in the acc spot everything works..........until i try to turn it on. Any ideas on what is wrong with it.

3.4 ---- 03

[2fst4u]

sounds like it might be the passlock system or whatever. there's some good information on this, but i don't think anyone is 100% sure of why it happens.

[whiteliquid]

how can i find information on that

[natedawg9640]

ok... so you're saying that you are sitting there with your car not running... you have the acc on the ignition and your listening to music... you turn the key to start to start the engine and the radio goes off... evveryhting goes off... i would imagine that's what everyone's does... (it's what mine does) so the battery is turning over the engine and not running all the crap...

[racin4JC]

I talk to a GM mechanic because I am having some issues also, and he said the tumbler in our cars seems to wear out fast and he has replaced several of them, so I don't know but that would be one thing to look into.

[whiteliquid]

natedawg--- yea but my car doesnt ever start, and if everyones does that then how does anyone drive their car?? :blink:
racin4jc--i'll look into that


Read up on the passlock thing and i dont fully understand..........if my car is completely dead i can sit in it with the key in the ignition for 10 minutes and it will start?

[Menace]

Know what I think it is. Maybe your car battery isnt powerful enough to support it all at one time. It can either run the car or the essentials. Check into it.

[whiteliquid]

Menace-->
thought bout that..............but it wont even start when jumped by another car

*also have a battery off a drag car, spost to be a very good battery

[2fst4u]

try the waiting 10 minutes thing. that's the best idea i have. then, you're probably going to need to get a new lock cylinder, if it's the tumblers. but like i said, i'm not an expert on this stuff.

[jabartram]

replace the ignition switch, i have somewhat the same problem on hot days, car starts but no accessories work, i just have to wait, or i begin to drive and the vibration gets it all contacting, i have a new ign switch, just havent installed it yet.

mines an 03/3400 also.

[1WhiteOSV]

Security lock out.............I bet you anything when you have the key in the "on" position the orange security light is flashing.............let it sit for 10 minutes until the light turns solid (stops flashing) then shut car off then start car up.......if this problem continues, you will have to replace your key cylinder (about $400)....MANY N-bodies have this problem

[natedawg9640]

oh i get... i have no idea... count me out of this one...

[Alero2k4]

If the passlock thing doesn't work try the starter cylenoid(sp???). My buddy had a Neon that did the exact same thing and it was a bad cylenoid, so they replaced it and voila! It was exactly the same, power and then you turn the key and you get NOTHING, no power at all. Disconnect and reconnect battery and repeat. Good luck! :thumb:

[Coupe]

Is your security light flashing at all?

[whiteliquid]

You guys are gonna laugh.

I shoulda checked this first but, it was a bad connection on the - (negative) side. I wasn't grounded good so when i tried to crank the car, the engine shaking made it lose connection and cut off the power. I took off that whole part (rubber, metal circular plate, and screw) sanded the metal plate down a little, and put a new screw in. Reconnected it, tightened it up and ta-dow she cranked right up, no problems.

But i am glad i know about the passlock crap now :blush:

[2fst4u]

you're lucky dude. glad to see it was a cheap fix, though.

[whiteliquid]

:angry: Ok sorry to bring this topic back to life but.....

It IS stil starting but, it takes it a long time, I have to hold the key all the way over for about 5-7 seconds instead of 2-3. Im afraid it's gonna leave me stranded somewhere someday. When i move my ground (negative) wire to my battery and move it around it starts just fine, and a couple times after that (hence i said earlier that i thought the problem was solved) But when i tried startin it up today it was a delayed start :(
Any way to make the connection better...........for good :)

[j_smith]

You may need a new battery. That happened to me because the post was bad on the battery.

[alerocar01]

there is also a chance that the battery has a cracked cell in it.

[whiteliquid]

no ideas? :cry:

[Whitetigerboi83]

or it could be the ground wire its self .. it my be croded down inside the wire coating my have to cut it off and re crimp a new one had to do that with my truck...