alpine subs

[shackney]

i am loioking to get 2 alpine type r's to run one ohm so i know i will need the 4 ohm subs but what would be better the 10's or 12's?
FEATURES

Woofer 12"

• Bumped Backplate
• Compound Radius Curve Pole Geometry
• Custom Cast Aluminum Frame with Integrated Heat Transfer Plate
• Designed and Engineered in the USA
• Dual Progressive Oversized Nomex ® Spiders
• Dual Stacked Magnets
• Dual Voice Coil Design
• Extra Length Extended Pole
• Flared Pole Vent
• High Strength Brass Voice Coil Bobbin
• Integrated Tinsel Lead Design
• Kevlar Reinforced Pulp Cone
• Magnetically Optimized Motor Structure (Pat. Pend.)
• Oversized Parabolic Dustcap

http://www.alpine-usa.com/images/products/main/1x1_grey.jpgSPECIFICATIONS


Power Handling

• Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 1500W
• Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 500WGeneral

• Diaphragm Material : Kevlar Reinforced Pulp
• Spider Material : Nomex
• Frequency Response : 23Hz - 500Hz


FEATURES

Woofer 10"

• Bumped Backplate
• Compound Radius Curve Pole Geometry
• Custom Cast Aluminum Frame with Integrated Heat Transfer Plate
• Designed and Engineered in the USA
• Dual Progressive Oversized Nomex ® Spiders
• Dual Stacked Magnets
• Dual Voice Coil Design
• Extra Length Extended Pole
• Flared Pole Vent
• High Strength Brass Voice Coil Bobbin
• Integrated Tinsel Lead Design
• Kevlar Reinforced Pulp Cone
• Magnetically Optimized Motor Structure (Pat. Pend.)
• Oversized Parabolic Dustcap

http://www.alpine-usa.com/images/products/main/1x1_grey.jpgSPECIFICATIONS


Power Handling

• Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 1500W
• Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 500WGeneral

• Diaphragm Material : Kevlar Reinforced Pulp
• Spider Material : Nomex
• Frequency Response : 24Hz - 500Hzheres the specs. and thanks alot for any help i can get

[shackney]

anybody??

[_01Alero_]

What kind of music do you listen to most shackney?

*Edit* I guess it really doesn't matter what music you listen to, I would go with the 12" Type R's. Reason for me saying that is that you are getting a better range out of the 12" (of course only 1 more Hz) but who knows. Either sub would work fine so....up to you man.

[shackney]

i listen to mostly rap and i have a kicker 1200.1 amp the specs look same to me and i was thinking 10 just cuz they cheaper but i dunno what would truly sound better

[ryanJ]

definately go with the 12's, 10" type r's arent good for rap. I tried one out and ended up selling it after about a week

[shackney]

i just got my 12's in today type r's. My amp is a mono and only has one spot for subs...what is best way to wire the subs? to get the subs to 1 ohm they have to be wired together then one set of wire ( +-) to the amp

[sound_xtreme]

definately go with the 12's, 10" type r's arent good for rap. I tried one out and ended up selling it after about a week

bull. it's all in the box.

[acold7dusta]

those type R's are proven to handle 1000 watts, i would prolly just buy on and make a big ported box with 1200.1 and call it a day. they can hit high 140s in the right box

[lilfee504]

those type R's are proven to handle 1000 watts, i would prolly just buy on and make a big ported box with 1200.1 and call it a day. they can hit high 140s in the right box

yea go wit ported box becuz u will be pushin out more bass

[alerocar01]

sound xtreme what box do you recommend?

[shackney]

i plan on goin ported just gotta get some time to make my box

[nhartwell]

i had 2 12" type R's. was going to sell them. Wasn't too pleased. Going with 2,3, or 4 10's. I listen to techno though. Sharpness is what I am looking for. However, those subs got stolen... thanksgiving night this year.

[alerored04]

i have a pair of 12" type r and one of those gimmicky boxes that can be ported or not. I know that the ports arent set up right and thats why it might sound poor with them. But imo the type r's sound way better in a sealed box.

[diablo]

I have 2 12" Type S subs in a HUGE Baseworx box (ported) (800 watts) with a 800watt Alpine V-Power mono amp, and 2 alpine 6*9's Type S speakers and 2 alpine 4 1/2 Type S speakers in the front, running off of my Alpine deck, all together pushing 1000 watts and I listen to pretty much everything from rap, techno, rave, rock, little country....but they are awsome...wish I could afford the Type S but I think next month im getting possably 2 Type X subs and 3000watt amp(s). lol, nvr turn up the volume all the way if u have type x's, say good bye to battery, backwindow etc.

[sound_xtreme]

ported, nice big fat ported box

[Ryan from Ohio]

Sealed boxes provide a flatter response in general. Thats what your seeing as better sound, its more linear.

As for output, Mark Potts did 154 with a single 12" Type R.

So the subs are very capable. As noted, its in the box.

If you want your sub to fart one note, or you want them more musical.

Its car audio. Not rocket science.

I got a member on my board thats very happen with the Type R. Seems to be a rather stout sub that can do good things.

As for boxes, I believe he is reccomending 3 cubes tuned to 30Hz, after displacement. It would appear to be more musical than gain oriented @ 30 hz. If your listening mainly to newer rap with high Hz bass, you could tune higher. Say 38Hz..

[diablo]

Oh and use your system carefully, Im pushing 98DB's in my Alero and friends have complained almost going def...lol...and don't advertise, thats how I got my old system from my old Probe stolen *totaled more than a month ago*

[nhartwell]

at least turn ur fucking system down when ur near ur neighbor hood. u never know what type of trash is living around there....

[sound_xtreme]

98? wow. i used to roll 140+ everyday. thats where most of my hearing damage came from though.... :/

[Ryan from Ohio]

at least turn ur fucking system down when ur near ur neighbor hood. u never know what type of trash is living around there....


COmmon sense at its best. To bad its not so common... lol

[acold7dusta]

I have 2 12" Type S subs in a HUGE Baseworx box (ported) (800 watts) with a 800watt Alpine V-Power mono amp, and 2 alpine 6*9's Type S speakers and 2 alpine 4 1/2 Type S speakers in the front, running off of my Alpine deck, all together pushing 1000 watts and I listen to pretty much everything from rap, techno, rave, rock, little country....but they are awsome...wish I could afford the Type S but I think next month im getting possably 2 Type X subs and 3000watt amp(s). lol, nvr turn up the volume all the way if u have type x's, say good bye to battery,backwindow etc.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALPINE-SWX-1242D-12-Type-X-Subwoofer-NEW-dual-4-ohm_W0QQitemZ260059940246QQihZ016QQcategoryZ18803Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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good day

[Gr1m]

98? wow. i used to roll 140+ everyday. thats where most of my hearing damage came from though.... :/

yea my old system was around 144ish, i just got my new 1 in i have to see what its gonna hit, should be above 175

[Ryan from Ohio]

The Type X doesnt appear to be to popular for SPL apps.

Actually I havent heard any sqwaking over it...

175 dB? With what a mini jet engine in the car?

[acold7dusta]

yea my old system was around 144ish, i just got my new 1 in i have to see what its gonna hit, should be above 175

LMAO!!!:haha:

[Ryan from Ohio]

:haha:

Your probably right, but now adays 175 is attainable, so you never KNOW...

[acold7dusta]

yes i do know. you wouldnt be on here trying to say that your "system" is gonna be hitting 175. you'd be in your garage building a wall with 2 18s and ALOT of power and batteries, filling your doors with cement and even then, hed only be hitting 160s

[Ryan from Ohio]

Then again you never know.

Thats why I dont say stuff like that.

You never truly know who it is behind the computer. It might very well be someone breaking the 170's...