Subwoofer/amp questions

[pawzbear]

Ok well im not modding my car anymore.. i sold off what i hadnt yet installed. However, im just gonna drop a nice system in it in the meantime. I can always move my system to my new car, right? yehh...

The subs i got... (2 of them, just ordered 'em!)
http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/products/product.php?model=SWR-1242D

I played around with all kinds of setups in the store and the alpines were what appealed to me most. Really loved these subs.. no suprise considering i have R's in the rear deck and S's in the front doors already...

--> THE PROBLEM IS, im an audio retard so what kind of amp should i get to go well with these subs? Needs to be at least 1000w right? jeez i dunno. I need a 4 channel one apparently. Preferably find it for me on here ( http://www.etronics.com/mysearchcat.asp?store=&catid=8042 ) the prices are amazing. I like the one that glows colors too woohoo!! =D lol.

I have a friend around here that will construct a decent box for me for now.. i would like something custom eventually but thats for later..

Also am i gonna have to worry about the lights fading a lot with these? What should i do? Get a high output amp and red top or something? I dont want to if i dont have to. (for now)

Thanks for being patient with my audio negligence ;)

[pawzbear]

Brent recommended this amp

http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=kenkac8103d&store=&catid=8056

sounds good to me unless anyone else has something up their sleeves.

[sofa]

Yeah id go with sumthing like that for the subs..DEF. A MONOBLOCK and a class d is a good choice...yeep ur looking for sumthing @ 1000watts @4ohms remember the 4 ohms of the sub b4 deciding on an amp be sure the pair up..good luck and have fun

[blindman]

i have 2 alpine type r 12" 4ohm( so ya wat u have) wired up in parallel so its a 1 ohm load, with http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.asp?cat_id=2&series_id=7&family_id=22&item_id=95251&locale=en_US&p_status=
and a 3 farad cap and it sounds great and the the power series is really under rated...its rated at 1000 at 1 ohm but the pvc says its 1600 at 1 ohm so it runs them just fine...i havnt even had the fan kick in on it, it kicks in at like 60-70 degrees celcius i think...so thats just my opinon but that kenwood is pretty nice to

[foosedgrandam]

personally I would suggest goin to a Memphis Dealer and get a Memphis 1000 watt amp they arent that expensive. then u actually get a warranty on the product u buy. I may be Biast since I'm a MECP tech on buyin things off the internet.

[SweetNLow]

memphis is awsome stuff....... but im positive its way more money than she was looking to spend

[antichrysler]

sweetnlow is right

personally i'm not a big fan of kenwood... they're kinda like the kia of amps

if you want something good that's in between the price of the kenwood and the memphis you may want to consider phoenix gold or alpine

one thing to keep in mind... low end amps always claim higher wattage but have a higher distortion rating... so you never actually use the power

[icpurplepplalot]

get a hifonics 1606d, and you'll bee good, those type r's can take some power

[Vinalero]

sweetnlow is right

personally i'm not a big fan of kenwood... they're kinda like the kia of amps

if you want something good that's in between the price of the kenwood and the memphis you may want to consider phoenix gold or alpine

one thing to keep in mind... low end amps always claim higher wattage but have a higher distortion rating... so you never actually use the power

I had the same opinion of Kenwood in the past. I bought my KAC-729 600W about 5 years ago and after she's seen 4 cars, moisture, water then ice in the trunk, over power, weak subs, dents and scratches, it still plays like a charm. That's probly the best buy I ever did.

I blown two cerwin vega 12 inches with that amp that were rathed at 600W peak that the guy at the store told me it was the right thing to buy. (that's within a year, one has been repared and blew again) After those I went for a Kenwood 12 inch that was on sale (300 W RMS, 1000 peak) and the guy told me it was too big for the amp. Have it for 2 years and a half and no problem so far, better quality than before, clear bass.

All around ppl keeps telling me that Kenwood is build tough and can handle a lot. I guess next time I have to buy audio things, I'll consider Kenwood again. But I think its just a question of taste, every brands have different class of product.

[white04alero]

since youre gettin alpine subs, try to see what alpine has in the way of amps.. because typically i have found that if a company makes a subwoofer, they make an amp to go with it (typically)

[white04alero]

this might be a little much, but heres what i had in mind... something like this:

http://www.alpine-usa.com/US-en/products/product.php?model=PDX-1.1000

[pawzbear]

yeh thats ridiculous. i found a mono block alpine one on my site for 300 bucks but thats just not what i was looking to spend right now. I dont have a job (i quit) but you know how i roll, i gots money in teh bank ;)
im getting the kenwood then. Hell i didnt even need this thread im just iming brent next time! I'll let yall know how everything turns out ;)
http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=alpmrdm1005&store=&catid=8056
^^isnt that the same thing u posted for 800 bucks? hhaa grand =D

[antichrysler]

awesome! hope the new stereo sounds good... be sure to post pics

[pawzbear]

i love how those alpines sound. The type X's sound better but cost a helluva lot more lol. Im a bit of an audiophile.. i have 2 different systems in just my room alone, lol. woot woot ordering amp now ;) subs are already on their way

[antichrysler]

lol yeah... alpine's got some good stuff... never owed any of it personally but heard lots of good things about it

if only paradigm/klipsch made car audio... i'd be all over that

[Ryan from Ohio]

Wow...

I would of taken the previous advice and looked into a Hifonics amp of sorts. Directed even...

Kenwood. Bose. Sony. Who is next? Old popular names living off the past.

You have 2 dual 4 Ohm subs. Your wiring options are this:

Mono:
1 Ohm or 4 Ohm

2 Channels:
2 Ohm or 8 Ohm

Or of course, 4 channels @ 4 Ohms.

If you are trying to power the R's @ 4 Ohm, get your purse out.

I would highly advise looking into a better brand amp, even if it is $50ish or so more than the Kenwood.

[pawzbear]

the better options i was looking at are more like... $200 more in price. Im doing pretty good considering i dont have a job right now lmao.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Have you looked for a JBL BP1200.1?

It would do you wonders.

Directed has a 1200 wrms amp also.

Theres plenty of shops out there.

www.ikesound.com
www.sonicelectronics.com
www.mmxpress.com

sheesh how many more legit ones. Just watch out for e bay punks like "indo audio"...

Actually E bay used would be a good place to look...