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Aldog3788
09-20-2007, 03:29 PM
i saw this sick deal...gtp 3800 wit supercharger and 15000 miles on the engine.....could i swap it out without changing major parts on the alero???
NoSweat83
09-20-2007, 03:31 PM
Takes a lot of modification but, can be done.
01silveralero
09-20-2007, 03:32 PM
i saw this sick deal...gtp 3800 wit supercharger and 15000 miles on the engine.....could i swap it out without changing major parts on the alero???
what year is the engine?
alerored04
09-20-2007, 03:36 PM
God i am sick of 3800 threads. For the time and effort it would take to install a stock 3800 boat anchor you could build the snot out of your 3400. Can someone please sticky that fact?
01silveralero
09-20-2007, 03:40 PM
God i am sick of 3800 threads. For the time and effort it would take to install a stock 3800 boat anchor you could build the snot out of your 3400. Can someone please sticky that fact?
no :p guess somebody didnt know there was some olds with the 3800 in them like this one for example http://www.edmunds.com/used/1998/oldsmobile/lss/17799/specs.html
01silveralero
09-20-2007, 03:42 PM
God i am sick of 3800 threads. For the time and effort it would take to install a stock 3800 boat anchor you could build the snot out of your 3400. Can someone please sticky that fact?
its more of the custom mounts and just trying to figure out the wiring. more time on trying to get the 3800 to fit or more money up front to get a supercharger for the 3400. i say go with the 3800 s/c :p
alerored04
09-20-2007, 03:57 PM
but that supercharger is worthless and out of its efficiency range anyway. Beyond 4psi that charger is completely innefficient. Turbo the 3400 and be done with it. Weighs less and makes more power, plus no wiring to figure out.
And yes i did know some olds came with the 3800, that doesnt make it any easier, its a different body car so that offers you no help in the swap. If you can do it more power to you but personally i would out my money into my 3400 and see what it can do before i ditched it.
billytheman1188
09-20-2007, 04:09 PM
but that supercharger is worthless and out of its efficiency range anyway. Beyond 4psi that charger is completely innefficient. Turbo the 3400 and be done with it. Weighs less and makes more power, plus no wiring to figure out.
And yes i did know some olds came with the 3800, that doesnt make it any easier, its a different body car so that offers you no help in the swap. If you can do it more power to you but personally i would out my money into my 3400 and see what it can do before i ditched it.
I see what your saying, if i had money i would turbo my 3400. BUT you cant just slap the turbo on, you also have to modify the internals and if you run higher PSI your going to F*** your tranny up. Yea, either way your going to do a lot of work. But i would say just turbo the 3400 and make sure you do everything right:coolio:
01silveralero
09-20-2007, 04:13 PM
but that supercharger is worthless and out of its efficiency range anyway. Beyond 4psi that charger is completely innefficient. Turbo the 3400 and be done with it. Weighs less and makes more power, plus no wiring to figure out.
And yes i did know some olds came with the 3800, that doesnt make it any easier, its a different body car so that offers you no help in the swap. If you can do it more power to you but personally i would out my money into my 3400 and see what it can do before i ditched it.
4psi :wtf2: they have 6-7psi stock more psi the more torque u will have (more torque before hp)
alerored04
09-20-2007, 04:27 PM
just cause they run that stock doesnt mean it is doing it efficiently. Billy you dont have to modify internals. Germ is pushing 350+ hp through his almost stock turbo 3400. As long as you keep it in fuel and avoid leaning it out it will run fine. His biggest issue has been blowing out headgaskets from high boost. You are right though, transmissions are an issue.
pawzbear
09-20-2007, 04:43 PM
why dont you just roll in the GTP? I personally find the 3800 to be far more reliable and efficient than the 3400
jayson_waltz
09-20-2007, 04:50 PM
don't know how much work it would take, but it sounds beastly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpDJslmSQNI&mode=user&search=
Redog
09-20-2007, 05:28 PM
Bigger isn't always better ;)
3800 Mustangs are Redog's lunch. With just an intake, I kept up with a 3800 Firebird :rolleyes2: (it was actually just a cone filter)
Oldsnut
09-20-2007, 06:07 PM
Bigger isn't always better ;)
3800 Mustangs are Redog's lunch. With just an intake, I kept up with a 3800 Firebird :rolleyes2: (it was actually just a cone filter)
Have you driven a GM 3800 reg. or supercharged? I have and would have to agree with Candace. I miss my Delta LSS. :(
Redog
09-20-2007, 06:46 PM
^ No. I know I couldn't match one of them, but the reg 3800 can be worked, but so can the 3400.
pawzbear
09-20-2007, 07:05 PM
Dude one of our employees has an 04 Monte SS with the 3.8 (non s/c) And i drove it bc i was looking at buying one.. and lemme tell you.. that is a HUGE car and it hauls ASS. A lightly modified 3.4 is no match for it!!! The 3.8 buicks are the same way. And they are very reliable. Just a good motor.
alerored04
09-20-2007, 07:49 PM
my sister has a 02 bonneville. Its not a dog but its nothing impressive, not close to my car. So im not sure what you guys are referring to.
01silveralero
09-20-2007, 08:37 PM
Dude one of our employees has an 04 Monte SS with the 3.8 (non s/c) And i drove it bc i was looking at buying one.. and lemme tell you.. that is a HUGE car and it hauls ASS. A lightly modified 3.4 is no match for it!!! The 3.8 buicks are the same way. And they are very reliable. Just a good motor.
then why couldnt u talk me into getting the riviera then :hissyfit:
pawzbear
09-20-2007, 09:07 PM
cuz i would never own a buick. Do i look like a grandpa to you??? my grandma wont even roll in a Buick. brand new caddys and bimmers only lmao
AsianAlero
09-20-2007, 09:15 PM
some one should just go ahead and put a 305 small black in an alero and call it a day.
Oldsnut
09-20-2007, 09:19 PM
then why couldnt u talk me into getting the riviera then :hissyfit:
Looks like crap, ugliest Riv ever, thats why. I'm 45, and according to you guys I'm almost dead and I still wouldn't buy one. Buick GN or '70 GS, now were talkin.
01silveralero
09-20-2007, 10:17 PM
cuz i would never own a buick. Do i look like a grandpa to you??? my grandma wont even roll in a Buick. brand new caddys and bimmers only lmao
u forgot u do drive an OLDSmobile :p :p :p
01silveralero
09-20-2007, 10:18 PM
some one should just go ahead and put a 305 small black in an alero and call it a day.
305 sucks.....somebody put a 350 in a saturn though sounded mean as ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8_x_DLfgLY
blueolds01
09-20-2007, 11:30 PM
i've driven my parents impala ls(3800) and it doesnt impress me at all. its quite boreing, its has no throtle response and i would perfer my 3400 in my alero.
pawzbear
09-20-2007, 11:31 PM
well the Monte is basically the same as the Impala.... so i dont beleive you =-P
Oldsnut
09-20-2007, 11:39 PM
i've driven my parents impala ls(3800) and it doesnt impress me at all. its quite boreing, its has no throtle response and i would perfer my 3400 in my alero.
Nothing will impress you after driving a '72 Cutlass, but 3800's rock and would crush a 3400 in the stock status.
99-alero
09-21-2007, 12:08 AM
hell i would put a 3.8L in my alero...even a non S/C..i mean its 1 reliable motor..things are bullet proof, face it the 3.4L is one of gm's worst motors, now some1 post pics of a 3.8L S/C i've been waitign 2 see one forever, found a cavi and a pontiac 6000 with a 3.8L SC no alero yet :(
01silveralero
09-21-2007, 10:15 AM
hell i would put a 3.8L in my alero...even a non S/C..i mean its 1 reliable motor..things are bullet proof, face it the 3.4L is one of gm's worst motors, now some1 post pics of a 3.8L S/C i've been waitign 2 see one forever, found a cavi and a pontiac 6000 with a 3.8L SC no alero yet :(
soon if i dont get the riviera tomorrow. although i would still have one alero left that can do through the process :yahoo:
TheEdgeofSanity
09-22-2007, 12:34 AM
hate to say it but if anybody wants a 3800 bad enough, just go buy a car that came with one... if only the alero came factory with a 3800, I'd keep my car forever.
01silveralero
09-22-2007, 01:54 AM
hate to say it but if anybody wants a 3800 bad enough, just go buy a car that came with one... if only the alero came factory with a 3800, I'd keep my car forever.
wouldnt we all
Spilner521
09-22-2007, 12:06 PM
Everybody's all about these big heavy engines. I'll stick with a light and powerful turbo 4 cylinder any day.
01silveralero
09-22-2007, 11:33 PM
Everybody's all about these big heavy engines. I'll stick with a light and powerful turbo 4 cylinder any day.
ill just whine right by u while u r playing with turbo lag :lol:
Spilner521
09-23-2007, 01:37 AM
ill just whine right by u while u r playing with turbo lag :lol:
Turbo lag? What's that? Never heard of it. :p
I don't use a 800hp turbo, there's no turbo lag here. I hit the gas and I'm at full boost before I can say "full boost". :thumb:
01silveralero
09-23-2007, 12:31 PM
Turbo lag? What's that? Never heard of it. :p
I don't use a 800hp turbo, there's no turbo lag here. I hit the gas and I'm at full boost before I can say "full boost". :thumb:
lies :p :lol:
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