B&M Shift Kit

[AleroDrime]

sorry AbheLLraZor i tried searching, got mixed results and just confused

if asking for any member using this product on an automatic ecotec to post your results and opinions

and what does this mean the B&M tricks the computer, it isnt one of those nightmare resistor products is it?

Im concerned about what harder shifts means and does this help or hurt gas mileage

[AbHeLlRaZoR]

well can't say I didn't try.

[AleroDrime]

you did and i appreciate it i read that and the forums i found, alotta questions on install, but no reviews afterwords

[AleroDrime]

bump. yall have them, just lemme know aobut em

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

if you don't go to the racetrack with your car, don't even bother. These are a performance mod which helps knock off anywhere from .001 to .100 off a quarter-mile drag time on an automatic transmission.

[knuckleballer32]

i have one. install was ok. i highly recommend soldering it in if you get it. the result were fun i guess but like albino said its good for racing and knocking maybe a hundredth of a sec of. do it if you wanna feel a stronger shift. I am also pretty sure it would be good if your tranny ever starts to slip.

[AleroDrime]

for the price id like to try it, it wouldnt hurt my mileage would it?

and by stronger shift you mean better no physically harder right?

[jayson_waltz]

No it won't hurt your mileage, it just ups the shift pressures in the tranny. And yes, by that i mean a physically firmer shirt, like chrip tires into 2nd firm on the higher settings.

but for a dd, thats all its gonna be its a firmer feel. you won't see any gain unless you consistantly like to race up to speed on on ramp and at lights. it doesn't mess with the ecu at all so there is no pwer gain.

[AleroDrime]

ok this thing is a resistor set up though right, it makes perform better right, it does fool the motor into thinking it needs to work harder and keep it constant

[jayson_waltz]

no it doesn't fool the motor one tiny little bit. it just makes your tranny shift faster and firmer, that has absolutely no effect on the engine. it doesn't make it work harder cause it only affects the SHIFT pressures in the tranny computer. thats all. your motor doesn't even notice anything. the only thing it makes better "performance" wise (if you could call it that) if quiker gear changes, hence the slightly faster drag times.

if you are taking it to the strip a lot, yea great thing to have. if you are building more power, also nice to have. for just an air lintake in a daily driver, you will be disappointed you spent the money just to get a harsh jerk b/t gears.

btw,the above sounds kinda like i'm yelling, but i'm not. its just how i explain stuff when i'm tired.

[AleroDrime]

ok so i doint want this for daily driving, but i do horse off to strips, havent race the alero yet though its stock, cept for the intake, so it is possible to wire this in with a switch, like those venom power chips

[Gr1m]

wish you could use it with a tuned PCM, i'd be all over the one FS in the other thread.

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

there is a switch on it, so it's not turned on all the time, but I wouldn't suggest getting it unless you race often. (off-stage 1-stage 2)

[coolgrinder33]

deffinatly helps performance.Gas millage im going to guess not so much.Honestly there really are not that many gas millage mods that will really make a difference. There is a couple, but you driving style will help the most

[AleroDrime]

i know theres no magic part to increase gas mileage, but somthing that adds a little or doesnt affect it, makes it more appealing to me, and im able to justify spending the money in my mind easier

plus itd be amazing if i ended up with an alero that averaged 37 or so highway, with out being gutted and chopped up to remove weight

[Misuseofyou]

I'm using it on an automatic w/ ecotec. I recommend, but if you drive like a granny (lol mileage?) don't bother. Much faster shifting, and keeps your RPMs up so if you're hard on the throttle you don't get jerked forward during a gear shift due to negative G force. If you're worried about how much you spend on gas don't get it, because it pushes back the shift point, to a higher RPM, which means more gas burned.

PS. You know mileage and the name AleroRacing don't really jive.

[AleroDrime]

so?, your mad caouse its not your name lol
i dunno i like the car to perform when i run it hard
i like to conserve when im just driving to work, living here its a 20-30 minute drive to anywhere, racing is pointless in a 55

when i first got my liscense i raced everywhere mad alotta troopers mad, they breathed down my neck everychance they got, only pinned ticket was a following too close though, but that was teh gayest possible he coulda wrote, points wise

[Misuseofyou]

I'm mad that you haven't had an up close and personal meeting with a telephone pole.

[Gr1m]

37mpg alero? ha i laugh at you.

[AleroDrime]

truck met a ditch once, drove out unharmed with the aid of a tow truck, it wasnt a 4x4

[nixon]

your gas mileage isnt going to go down the drain if you get the kit, it may hinder it a bit due to higher shift points but its not like its gonna be something extremely noticeable

[Redog]

It's OK but be sure to hook it up only once.

The dealership messed with mine and I had to rehook it and it didn't work right.

For like $10 more you can get a PCM and have a lot more options ;)

[AleroDrime]

eff so having the stock thing and that rigged in on an switch isnt an option?

[Redog]

With an aftermarket PCM, no

[AleroDrime]

no stock pcm

[colonel6632]

37mpg alero? ha i laugh at you.

i would just like to point out... on my last trip to regina... i averaged 35.8mpg

yes... i know... it's not 37mpg

and no... that was not with the wind pushing me etc etc... that was filling it... driving it on highway... and filling it

[Cliff8928]

I could do that in mine too.. The window sticker says 37 MPG in fact.

[worknprog.99]

37mpg alero? ha i laugh at you.

yeah it aint like its a new malibu or something... hell if you want gas mileage buy a turbo diesel jetta rofl

[nottooolds]

ok, admitted newb to aleros, but not to modifying cars. not trying to undermine anybody, but aren't the B&M shift improvement kits ACTUAL plate, blockers, and check-ball assemblies that replace plates and check-balls INSIDE the transmission??? I'm not sure about this specific one, but for most rwd models (camaro, mustang, etc...) thats what they are. I know the alero isnt rwd, but shouldnt the principle be the same? any links available? I'd be glad to check this one out.

[meadus101]

The B&M Shiftplus is basically a module that interrupts the wiring to your transmission. it causes it to shift harder, better, faster stronger.


*insert Daft Punk*

[nottooolds]

OHHH!! ok! sorry, i wasn't sure. that sounds like a pretty good idea, but i agree that on a mostly stock, street driven car it would make little difference. for the cost though, if it'll make you happy go for it! :D

[heineck]

*insert Daft Punk*
http://piotrj.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/daft_punk1.jpg


fixed

[AleroDrime]

the sticker that gave teh alero 37 was under the old epa system, you must look closer at those stickers now, the new epa system is extremly accurate, it is on point for all 7 vehicles around my house

[Valley olds]

Redog: It's OK but be sure to hook it up only once.

The dealership messed with mine and I had to rehook it and it didn't work right.

For like $10 more you can get a PCM and have a lot more options

They sell pcm's for the ecotec alero?

[AleroDrime]

i think some dude on here can reprogram ecotec pcms for you

[Oldsman]

the B&M will not affect gas mileage at all. It does increase shift firmness but you can switch the setting to off and not use it most of the time and when you want play around or go to the track then just switch it on.

this a great mod for $30-$40.

i thought i did a review in my install thread

[knuckleballer32]

i drove with it on today for the first time since install. its pretty fun to to drive with it on.

[AleroDrime]

oh its like the venom performance chip my friend has, you keep it on off except for when you want it, i didnt expect it to be like that, thats why i mentioned wiring in a switch, in that cas im ready to do this agian, i dont want somthing thats gonna suck mileage down during daily cruising, but who cares about mileage if your racing to a track, that defys the point

to shorten this up, if theres a switch to off, im game

[Redog]

The shiftplus has a toggle switch. Center is off, one side is #1 and the other side is #2.

It's a good mod to do for the money. A little hard to hook into the hardness, but it works. Look up Oldsman's how to:

The mod will work with all 3 Alero powerplants ;)

Gee look what I found, I used that crazy little button called "search" go figure :p

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296&highlight=shiftplus

and

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1835&highlight=shiftplus

And I know it's listed for a Camaro. Scot did it, I did it, and a few other people did it with the same kit, OK I can close this now ;)

[Caboose73]

I cant wait to see the post of him trying to wire this thing in

[Redog]

Meh, it's not really that hard.

Get those 3M wire splices and hook the two wires into the correct wires in the hardness.

On second thought, yeah me too :haha:

Alero Racing Kiddo, get the 3M wire splices. The correct ones are baby blue, red ones are the correct size, but are a little hard to work with. I wouldn't trust any other brand of splices.
https://www.affordabledelivery.com/published/publicdata/DB243613615/attachments/SC/products_pictures/blue%20quick%20splice_thm.JPG

[AleroDrime]

i never did find any pics of it being done to the ecotec, i saw the quad 4 pics by oldsman

[Redog]

i never did find any pics of it being done to the ecotec, i saw the quad 4 pics by oldsman


Same thing ;)

[Valley olds]

Ask darkobsession. He put a shift kit on his eco alero not too long ago. Maybe he could tell you how he did it. Here is a link to his thread of the install.

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24607&page=2

[AleroDrime]

i pm'd so i wouldnt resurrect the thread

[knuckleballer32]

dont use splices. solder it, i installed it with the splicers it came with and i didnt work. they are crap and if you are not careful i could see the splicers split a wire completely. just cut the wires and tie in the b&m wires.

[Caboose73]

dont use splices. solder it, i installed it with the splicers it came with and i didnt work. they are crap and if you are not careful i could see the splicers split a wire completely. just cut the wires and tie in the b&m wires.

x2 thats what i did just to be safe and dont forget to shrink wrap them when your done

[knuckleballer32]

e tape did the job. and then i taped up the opening in the coil wire cover. no problems whatsoever and it works great.

[Caboose73]

e tape unsticks eventually that why soldering and shrink wrap are the best especially sense its out in the engine bay

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

you don't have to do the connection under the hood...you could make the connection in the driver compartment. that bundle of cables comes through the firewall and goes across behind the bottom edge of the dash, under the steering column.

[knuckleballer32]

caboose the e tape is wrapped around the connections and then all wrapped together again then zip tied on the ends... not goin anywhere. Albino, yes that is very possible but a pain in the butt to find the right ones in the bundle of 100+ wires

[darksobsession]

the plug is not easily accessible for the ecotec, it wasn't anywhere near the pics showed it to be in the 2.4. under the dash is much better. don't use taps, they suck.

[AtomicX]

When I was installing it I saw multiple red's w/ black stripes? Is it just the farthest one on the right?

[darksobsession]

there are two blue w/white stripes and two red with black stripes.

you want the set in which the wires are really close together. the blue should be light blue and the red should be orangy-red. again, these wires should be next to each other. the other two are not.

after you splice into them, put the unit on 2 and switch from park to drive. you will know if it's hooked up right or not, your car will 'thunk.' it'll shift kind of like a stick when you drive.

[AtomicX]

I ended up having to solder them, works good now. But is it just my kit but for some reason if I put it in 2, I can not change it back to OFF unless I shut off my car and turn the car back on.

[Caboose73]

But is it just my kit but for some reason if I put it in 2, I can not change it back to OFF unless I shut off my car and turn the car back on.

No its not just your car all of them do that

[darksobsession]

you have to turn off your car when you switch modes.

[AtomicX]

Also does anyone else get the Trac Off light when putting it in 1 or 2?

[Caboose73]

Ya i had it happen to me when i drove it around in 1 for awhile

[Th0r]

I just installed mine. Got it from Jegs for just under $40 shipped. The incuded blue splicers didn't cut trough the wires so I grabbed some of the red ones and they worked great.

Both modes kill the traction control, no big deal since I alwys turn it off when I'm screwin around. Mode 1 is pretty firm but nothing crazy. Mode 2 will chirp the tires into 2nd, and if I'm spraying it just straight up breaks loose going into 2nd.

[AtomicX]

I just installed mine. Got it from Jegs for just under $40 shipped. The incuded blue splicers didn't cut trough the wires so I grabbed some of the red ones and they worked great.

Both modes kill the traction control, no big deal since I alwys turn it off when I'm screwin around. Mode 1 is pretty firm but nothing crazy. Mode 2 will chirp the tires into 2nd, and if I'm spraying it just straight up breaks loose going into 2nd.

Mine doesn't chirp the tires it just bucks like crazy on setting 2.

[kluv27]

I got a question though,Does the shift cause massive wear and tear on your tranny or is it pretty reliable to run.Im thinking about getting one

[knuckleballer32]

2 could cause some harm depending on the tranny. people on here claim they run on 2 all the time and have had no problems but i wouldnt do it. on 1 i couldnt see it doing anything harmful but it depends on the tranny and its curret condition