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dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 12:00 AM
whats the loudest bds uve hit in your alero? or in your team or other vehical u have a part of? please state the meter used if u can!

alero= 2 ten inch diamond tdxs hit 145 on termlab
alero single 12 massive dmx hit 149.7 on an older audio control
(powered by 2 p3000.1s)
alero= 3 8w7s hit a 145 termlab

all of these were in the trunk behind the b pillar.

team truck, TOXIC-CREATIONS (stereotown) 170.3 bds on termlab.

lets hear your scores and how you did it!

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 12:04 AM
and i totally meant dbs, i just cant type tonight

Fi-Alero
08-04-2009, 12:25 AM
I like your username :)

Cashdollar2009
08-04-2009, 02:07 AM
Two 15" Petra Prowlers (mid-1990's subs) Sealed Enclosure
Visonik v308xt (Amplifier i picked up for $34.00 brand new)
4 ga. Wiring, 500watts rms
dB Drag = 141.5dbs... :coolio:

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 06:40 AM
I like your username :)

ha ya i should change it to 8s tho

Fi-Alero
08-04-2009, 03:22 PM
I've done a few mean things with some 8s lol.

I believe I have the loudest metered aleros

cherrington17
08-04-2009, 03:23 PM
I've done a few mean things with some 8s lol.

I believe I have the loudest metered aleros

aren't you suppose to post what you metered at?

Fi-Alero
08-04-2009, 03:29 PM
First setup:
Hifonics 1206d on a 15" FiSSD: 143.2db @ 32hz

Another few setups:
One RD 1750.1 on a 15" DD 9515: 148.3db @ 51hz
Two RD 1750.1s on a 15" RD HW: 151.1db @ 57hz

Current setup:
Two RD 1750.1s on two DD2500 series 10"s : 150.0 @ 57hz (still working on getting this setup louder :))

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/4/571523.jpg

Also I have helped build a van for our team/shop:
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28231

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 03:47 PM
First setup:
Hifonics 1206d on a 15" FiSSD: 143.2db @ 32hz

Another few setups:
One RD 1750.1 on a 15" DD 9515: 148.3db @ 51hz
Two RD 1750.1s on a 15" RD HW: 151.1db @ 57hz

Current setup:
Two RD 1750.1s on two DD2500 series 10"s : 150.0 @ 57hz (still working on getting this setup louder :))

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/4/571523.jpg

Also I have helped build a van for our team/shop:
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28231

curious do you open ur trunk since its facing and ported forward?

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 03:48 PM
and are they all termlab scores im assuming?

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 03:50 PM
my alero has been having electrical issues and has blown up 6 decks and 3 amps. so no more system in this car. there will be a system in my new evo tho

StoopidAlero
08-04-2009, 03:50 PM
In my ex's cavy, we had 6 Memphis Pr-10s with a Class d majestic.
Stock SPL -- 144.5 on the old school mics. Probably 2001-2002ish

Then we had 2 Memphis 15" Mojo's with 2 class d majestics
Modified SPL -- 147.3

My single cab s10 with 4 Sony Aluminum cone 10s and the class D majestic
Stock SPL -- 142.2

These numbers were all from 2000-2002ish. Back when you could slap together just about anything and get huge numbers. Id say these days those numbers would be off by about 3db. I miss those days. Won alot of shows with the cavalier and amazed many with the 4 10s in a reg cab s10

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 03:54 PM
In my ex's cavy, we had 6 Memphis Pr-10s with a Class d majestic.
Stock SPL -- 144.5 on the old school mics. Probably 2001-2002ish

Then we had 2 Memphis 15" Mojo's with 2 class d majestics
Modified SPL -- 147.3

My single cab s10 with 4 Sony Aluminum cone 10s and the class D majestic
Stock SPL -- 142.2

These numbers were all from 2000-2002ish. Back when you could slap together just about anything and get huge numbers. Id say these days those numbers would be off by about 3db. I miss those days. Won alot of shows with the cavalier and amazed many with the 4 10s in a reg cab s10

did you do a blow thru in the s 10? thats what were doing, we have put 6 boxes in now and cant get the tuning right. 4 twelve inch powerbass 3xls and a powerbass xta 5000. if anyone knows haw to tune a v shaped box please share. im no noob either

Fi-Alero
08-04-2009, 04:08 PM
and are they all termlab scores im assuming?
Yes.
curious do you open ur trunk since its facing and ported forward? Yes. I'm actually .8db louder with the trunk barely popped.


did you do a blow thru in the s 10? thats what were doing,
I'm assuming this is a single cab s10?

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 04:16 PM
Yes.
Yes. I'm actually .8db louder with the trunk barely popped.


I'm assuming this is a single cab s10?

yes it is,but extended would have been nice.

StoopidAlero
08-04-2009, 04:47 PM
No blow thru, completely stock with the exception of the jack removed from the back wall. And I think I have a program somewhere on my computer for tuning all kinds of crazy boxes. Basically you just type in the dimensions of your box and it would give you the tuning frequency. I think it had a way to calculate something for a V shaped box.

Afugy
08-04-2009, 05:52 PM
132 but its mostly out of the car right now, not even going to go into all that I had. But right now just the one 12" and on 1500 rms amp that sounds louder then all the other crap that I had, I will get tested on the 16th at post.

Testing from termpro http://dbdragracing.com/ with this guy as the head judge http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-w7YIf32oM

Cashdollar2009
08-04-2009, 07:26 PM
Hey he was at the show in Butler where i got mine metered! He's returning world champion in bassrace.... He won, hit 159.9 all three runs... :icon_rolleyes:

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 07:39 PM
No blow thru, completely stock with the exception of the jack removed from the back wall. And I think I have a program somewhere on my computer for tuning all kinds of crazy boxes. Basically you just type in the dimensions of your box and it would give you the tuning frequency. I think it had a way to calculate something for a V shaped box.

ya we do to, but the v shape is acting as a port itself, so its like the port is starting at 5 inches and keeps expanding. wehave been expeirimenting w placing boards in the shape of a v within the v to keep the port opening the same size, but then that adds to our length and blah blah blah... last year we were doing fiftys w 2 twelves at like 58 hertz and now were doing 50s at 27 hertz, its low as shit and sounds loud as hell but we want it tuned to 58 which is the tuning of the actual vehical. we should be doing some good numbers if we can get the box tuned correctly.

dontunderestimate10s
08-04-2009, 07:45 PM
we would just make a normal slot ported box except there really isnt enough room to face 4 woofers across and a port. we were considering using port tubes bc thats easy to tune, but cant really fit any decent size. considering experimenting with triangle shaped ports, were not sure how the triangular shape will effect the bass waves tho. allowing them to open up and what not. if anyone has any input im always open to ideas!!

Fi-Alero
08-04-2009, 11:59 PM
58hz in an s10? Try higher. Lots higher ;)

AleroDrime
08-05-2009, 01:11 AM
ill see if my tint shop has a meter while its getting tinted, i doubt ill be competitive with you guys though

GA_turbo
08-05-2009, 02:37 AM
156.1db in 2002 with 2 12 inch audiobahn ( when they were actualy good) and the audiobahn hcx2300 at 1ohm stereo, slot ported box tuned at 42hz then made a new box tune at 32hz and got a 152 just about all the time playing 36 to 38 hz notes. USAC meter.

GA_turbo
08-05-2009, 02:48 AM
we would just make a normal slot ported box except there really isnt enough room to face 4 woofers across and a port. we were considering using port tubes bc thats easy to tune, but cant really fit any decent size. considering experimenting with triangle shaped ports, were not sure how the triangular shape will effect the bass waves tho. allowing them to open up and what not. if anyone has any input im always open to ideas!!

actually i just made a box for 15s with the triangular ports and i have to admit DAMN they are loud, i was thinking the same thing about the port but then i thought bazooka made some box with 3 ports on it and it sound it pretty desent so, since i was working with literally no room for the box and wanting to make the subs be as loud as posible i just desided ( trial and error ) why not, the end result amazed me. All i can say is that if you are working in a tight spot they are definatly the way to go cause you can either just put one port or you can put 4 of them. The only tricky part for me was the lenght of the port. I got some pics of it ill try posting later for ya.

GA_turbo
08-05-2009, 03:21 AM
http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/67/l_c90ed052654042a190cc63a9fe970d67.jpg

http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/89/l_039815d853fd4073ab2f452f6aa6bbbc.jpg

dontunderestimate10s
08-05-2009, 04:57 PM
156.1db in 2002 with 2 12 inch audiobahn ( when they were actualy good) and the audiobahn hcx2300 at 1ohm stereo, slot ported box tuned at 42hz then made a new box tune at 32hz and got a 152 just about all the time playing 36 to 38 hz notes. USAC meter.

i thought the world trunk record was set by chris fish at 153db. whats your 4ohm rating?

Fi-Alero
08-05-2009, 05:32 PM
156.1db in 2002 with 2 12 inch audiobahn ( when they were actualy good) and the audiobahn hcx2300 at 1ohm stereo,
Those numbers have got to be in the port. No way you were that loud in the trunk with a pair of audiobahns metering forward of the B pillar.

dontunderestimate10s
08-05-2009, 10:45 PM
Those numbers have got to be in the port. No way you were that loud in the trunk with a pair of audiobahns metering forward of the B pillar.

agreed. (not tryin to call you out, but it took two 15s and 10000 watt amp to do a 153 in a civic and i beleive he set a world record of some kind a few months ago. chris fish from colorado.) if it was a usaci comp they keep yearly records of all events. he can check n see what it was

Fi-Alero
08-06-2009, 12:39 AM
I held the USACI trunk class world record for a bit.

DougEFresh3031
08-06-2009, 01:23 AM
143.3dB

AleroB888
08-06-2009, 03:06 AM
Somebody give me Cliff Notes on how these competitions are conducted, meaning where is the mic placed, in the car or out, standard distance from the speaker, what is the max # of drivers allowed, etc.

I used to custom-build home speakers as a job years ago and have a pretty good idea of what it takes to make them loud, but some of the numbers I am seeing in this thread don't seem to jive with the laws of physics.
You are measuring bass output for some certain frequencies, including the sub-bass?

I have had some good luck with passive radiator systems, but never done one in a car. Are they allowed?

cherrington17
08-06-2009, 08:49 AM
From what i've seen, most comps meter at the windshield, car closed (doors/windows) mic inside.

but the different comps have different rules, different ways of testing.

Fi-Alero
08-06-2009, 10:10 AM
Somebody give me Cliff Notes on how these competitions are conducted, meaning where is the mic placed, in the car or out, standard distance from the speaker, what is the max # of drivers allowed, etc.

This depends on the organization that you are competing in and the class. In USACI, if you are in any class except port wars, the mic can be anywhere in front of the B-pillar. There are no max amount of drivers as long as you are not in streetbeat.

I used to custom-build home speakers as a job years ago and have a pretty good idea of what it takes to make them loud, but some of the numbers I am seeing in this thread don't seem to jive with the laws of physics.
You are measuring bass output for some certain frequencies, including the sub-bass?
Home audio and car audio are two completely different animals.
The Term-lab measures in DBC, I think you are thinking DBA.

I have had some good luck with passive radiator systems, but never done one in a car. Are they allowed?
They are allowed, but not used at all in SPL.

GA_turbo
08-06-2009, 10:57 AM
Those numbers have got to be in the port. No way you were that loud in the trunk with a pair of audiobahns metering forward of the B pillar.


i didnt belive it either but thats what i got the score wasnt meter at the port, it got meter by USAC, i dont remember what meter they had, sad part is that that day i got beat by a 156.2 from a guy with a Kicker L7 15 in a lebaron sub facing front, so i got second place that day. Still not very happy about that but what can you do.

Back in the day i was easy to get high numbers and for the most part still is but people now a days dont really know how to set the systems right, i always see comps people doing 133db to 138db and think that thats loud LOL. I got out of competing cause it got borring to me and plus i was always in the top 3 not to sound cocky but i wasnt fun for me.

To me i wasnt how loud my car was but how can i beat my competitor with barely any equiptment, I got more joy from seeing their face all pissed that they spent tons of money and they got beat by an amature with alot of knoledge LOL.
Short story i started doing car audio since i was in the 4th grade, my dad got me into it and ever since then its been in my blood. One of the things i learned the most was frequency waves and acoustics. Once i tackel that down it was on from there, my first comp ever i got first place with no sweat.
I had 2 15inch single 4ohm pyramid super pro in a sealed box at 2.0cf per sub, crunch 300 watt 2 channel, hot shots crossover, 4ga power kit, an aiwa tape deck (LOL i know) stock interior speakers running of the deck. I hit a 142.4db and all of this cost me no more than 600 dollars. I beat a guy running top of the line rockford puch power, he had 4 12 punch power in the trunk and i think like an amp per sub i dont remember and he only did 140db after 5 trys, later he came to me and asked me how much money i had in my system, so i told him and he was not too happy about that because he said that he spent over 6000 dollars in his setup LOL thats sucks, i got to admit tho it looked nice thats about it.
I have alot of tricks up my sleave when it comes to car audio. :ninja:

GA_turbo
08-06-2009, 11:03 AM
i thought the world trunk record was set by chris fish at 153db. whats your 4ohm rating?

Dual 2ohm per sub, its posted right on the pargraph ( AT one ohm stereo ) next to the amplifier.

Fi-Alero
08-06-2009, 12:34 PM
Ah, you were competing back in 2002. That's when USACI used the AC meter. Subtract about 10db and thats about what you would have done on the TL.

I agree, it is fun beating your competition with smaller and cheaper stuff. Me doing 150s in the trunk with 2 10s blows peoples minds lol.

GA_turbo
08-06-2009, 12:45 PM
^^^ hell yeah, ive seen 4 8s do 154db

Cashdollar2009
08-06-2009, 02:57 PM
I hit a 142.4db and all of this cost me no more than 600 dollars.

Haha i love that! My uncle gave me two 15's from the early 1990's. I bridged them to two ohms on a Visonik amplifier i picked up from ebay for $34.00. I picked my box up at a swap meet for $45.00. (I talked him down from $80.00) And bought a $30.00 4ga. InstallBay wiring kit from Chinatown, when our wrestling team went to New York for a wrestling tournament, i needed a souvanier. A Kenwood KDC-MP538U head unit from ebay for $110.00. Oh, and a $49.00 Power Acoustic 5.0 farad capacitor. So in total, it cost me $268.00 plus some odd pennies here and there for everything brand new(aside from the 15yr old subs) , to hit 141.5 dBs on the TermLab! ;)

Fi-Alero
08-06-2009, 03:47 PM
Just giving a score and equipment doesn't really tell me anything. The vehicle is where it all comes down to. Trunk cars are some of the hardest vehicles to get loud. Small extended cab trucks and hatchbacks are some of the easiest.

I've seen a pair of 8s do a 177.6db. Know why? He was in a CRX that was completely concreted inside.

Bad99Olds
08-06-2009, 05:36 PM
so it was a pretty rock hard sound?

Fi-Alero
08-06-2009, 06:06 PM
so it was a pretty rock hard sound?
I see what u did thar.

Bad99Olds
08-06-2009, 06:21 PM
I see what u did thar.

Im glad. You have an iq of atleast 60. :)

Fi-Alero
08-07-2009, 08:12 AM
Im glad. You have an iq of atleast 60.
Correct.

Anywho, I got my new battery to fit up front, so now I'm hoping to see a gain of at least a few tenths :)

dontunderestimate10s
08-07-2009, 07:23 PM
Correct.

Anywho, I got my new battery to fit up front, so now I'm hoping to see a gain of at least a few tenths :)

ya i was going to ask you, whatcha runnin for electrical?

Fi-Alero
08-07-2009, 09:17 PM
I have been running just a stock battery up front and a kinetik 2400 in the back. But, I installed my Kinetik 1800 up front the other day, I will post as soon as I get some new numbers.

loburbon
09-24-2009, 07:28 PM
im new here so what better way to get my first post then in the section i love. Well in my yukon i do a 153.4@37hz on a term-lab with 4 t3 tss 15's. in my blazer i do a 149@41hz on a term-lab with 4 dd 2510's. and im in the process of putting a single dd 9515 in my alero.

Silentalero
09-24-2009, 11:50 PM
loudest we ever hit was 149.3 in my alero, loudest from our shop is 172.1 with 2 22" shockwave subs.

Cashdollar2009
09-27-2009, 07:53 PM
loudest we ever hit was 149.3 in my alero, loudest from our shop is 172.1 with 2 22" shockwave subs.

149.3 dBs with the two Audiobahns? Nice!

Silentalero
09-28-2009, 09:21 AM
149.3 dBs with the two Audiobahns? Nice!

No, lord no those things wouldnt hit that lol..i forget what setup i had back when we metered it.

Cashdollar2009
09-28-2009, 09:26 AM
No, lord no those things wouldnt hit that lol..i forget what setup i had back when we metered it.

Haha alright that makes more sense. I mean, they were rated 1500 watts rms somewhere i saw, but i thought you may have just had a trick up your sleeve or something. :lol:

alero_bmxer
10-03-2009, 09:29 AM
138.3 two alpine type R's power acoustic 1500 watt class D mono

sound_xtreme
10-05-2009, 05:02 PM
i hit like 143 on termlab with 4 audiobahn 10's back in the day at like 32hz.....that's the box that blew apart and later found out it rattled 1 of the subs wires loose, so it was really 3 10s lol. Tuning on that box was awesome ~30hz was pure awesome. ah, good ol days.

i think we used the old school power acoustik class d(the all metal plain looking ones)

lil.red.alero
01-03-2010, 01:25 AM
First setup:
Hifonics 1206d on a 15" FiSSD: 143.2db @ 32hz

Another few setups:
One RD 1750.1 on a 15" DD 9515: 148.3db @ 51hz
Two RD 1750.1s on a 15" RD HW: 151.1db @ 57hz

Current setup:
Two RD 1750.1s on two DD2500 series 10"s : 150.0 @ 57hz (still working on getting this setup louder :))

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/4/571523.jpg

Also I have helped build a van for our team/shop:
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28231

beautiful system