Sway bar group buy?

[<woj99>]

Thanks for arranging this. Do you know if the group buy will remain open until the 31st even if more than 20 sets are ordered prior to the 31st, or will it close once 20 sets are ordered?

[mfuller]

Thanks for arranging this. Do you know if the group buy will remain open until the 31st even if more than 20 sets are ordered prior to the 31st, or will it close once 20 sets are ordered?
No problem.
As stated on the ordering page, PFYC will order 25 sets once they have received 20 pre-orders. I do not know if they plan on ordering any more if they receive more than 25 pre-orders.
I guess what I'm saying is.......shit or get off the pot.

[kwhauck]

I guess what I'm saying is.......shit or get off the pot.

http://englishfromfriends.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/shitorgetoffthepot.png

[unchained01]

Come on gentlemen. Only 8 paid so far. Lets get this going !!!

[<woj99>]

That's what I assumed as well. I'm definitely ordering, just keeping an eye on the exchange rate and might be able to save a few $, but don't want to miss the boat on this.

No problem.
As stated on the ordering page, PFYC will order 25 sets once they have received 20 pre-orders. I do not know if they plan on ordering any more if they receive more than 25 pre-orders.
I guess what I'm saying is.......shit or get off the pot.

[Shiwnath]

Come on gentlemen. Only 8 paid so far. Lets get this going !!!

Thats actually not bad considering it's only been like 1 1/2 days. We almost have half the required amount of people with 18 days to go.

[unchained01]

Lol I know. There was alot of people asking when. And now it's happening and just excited I guess

[tw0123]

lol I am just waiting for my funds to transfer from my bank to paypal... stupid 8-10 business days for Canadian transfers...

[Shiwnath]

Lol I know. There was alot of people asking when. And now it's happening and just excited I guess

Lol I know the feeling. As soon as I read Matt's message, I felt like this:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/574/1726009-shut_up_and_take_my_money_super.jpg

lol I am just waiting for my funds to transfer from my bank to paypal... stupid 8-10 business days for Canadian transfers...

Do you have a credit card Tim? paypal + credit card = instant transfer :awesome:

[tw0123]

cash has already been pulled from the bank account... and don't have that much room on the credit card for it either... it sucks lol

[Papa Rad17]

^lol, I'm glad we have some dedicated people who are actually going through with this. <30 to be made from the sound of it so we'll have some rare parts. My friend is going to put his deposit down next week when he gets paid so theres another +1... I just wish nbodys were a bit more popular for stuff like this, any word on how things are looking on the grandam and Malibu forums?

[adrian13]

I made my purchase yesterday and am the #8 guy. I posted on unitedmalibus.com but the site is running at a very slow pace. There may be only a few of us that would buy them but it might be too late until others find out.

[Shiwnath]

Bump!

[tw0123]

paypal says my cash will be in by the 24th :( I hope PFYC waits until the 31st as originally indicated so I can get in on this... I would hate to miss out due to money transfer time...
Just in case... will they be able to request more bars during the production run if they proceed with the original 25 sets with 20 pre orders if more people get in at the last minute (of the 31st deadline) or will they need another 20 sets for another run of bars?

[Shiwnath]

paypal says my cash will be in by the 24th :( I hope PFYC waits until the 31st as originally indicated so I can get in on this... I would hate to miss out due to money transfer time...
Just in case... will they be able to request more bars during the production run if they proceed with the original 25 sets with 20 pre orders if more people get in at the last minute (of the 31st deadline) or will they need another 20 sets for another run of bars?

Absolute worse case scenario, I wouldn't mind paying for your set and you can reimburse me when it comes.

Also, if they're getting 25 sets made but only require 20 of us to be in on it, wouldn't that mean they would keep 5 sets in their inventory for anyone who missed it? Or am I missing something here..

[Papa Rad17]

im getting worried now, only 8...

[Shiwnath]

im getting worried now, only 8...

I don't think it automatically updates itself. The guys at PFYC might have to manually update it themselves and seeing how it was the weekend, they probably weren't working so it didnt get updated.

[unchained01]

WE NOW HAVE 10 SETS !!!
And yes they are keeping 5 sets in stock Thats how they are helping us get this done and I personally will buy from the even if their prices are alittle higher just to retun the favor and thank them for supporting the N_body community

[tw0123]

Thanks Trevor, I appreciate the offer just in case the buy goes before the 24th... I will send them an email closer to the date if I see it looks like it is going to start before the 31st...

[Shiwnath]

Bump!

[unchained01]

We need a list

[tw0123]

We need a list

copy the previous list and update it with who has paid and who has not... that's the best i can suggest... i highly doubt PFYC will just give up the names of who has paid so far lol

[Papa Rad17]

I have. It sounds like its only been aleromod members who have paid, grandam and malabu people back out? We don't tons of time to get the rest in...

[colonel6632]

Im Paid up guys. so i've kept my commitment!
update the list
Full Deposit Paid




Pre Ordered Paid

Colonel6632 (1 set)

[unchained01]

Thank you colonel !! And it's been guys from here and GAGT that's have made deposits. No one from GAOC. That I know of but I can't check. Because sit is down for the day So between here and there. I think we have 12 counting Tim. Pretty good so far i ahve also been contacting other members on other sites and trying to get them to pair up and split sets up for those who wanted one or the other

[Papa Rad17]

Now lets get the other 8

[emncfi]

I'll bump this up, just paid my deposit, I think their counter on the site autoupdates, before my order it showed 11 had paid, and after it was at 12. 8 to go folks, I think we end up with people like me though reguarding GAOC, I am on there too, but did the "I'll buy one" off Aleromod

[hok666]

9...

[colonel6632]

we're at 13!!!

[jabartram]

deposit made.

[unchained01]

Thanks jabartram !!!! And emmcfi !!! We are now at 15 !!!

[GreenGrandAm01]

Thanks Trevor, I appreciate the offer just in case the buy goes before the 24th... I will send them an email closer to the date if I see it looks like it is going to start before the 31st...

Does PFYC accept PayPal as a payment method? I looked on their site and it seems to me there is no option to pay with PayPal.

[tw0123]

I never really looked that far into it... I just figured they did being an online seller... I have sent Mike at PFYC an email, I will see what he says... This could suck if I have to transfer it back and onto my Credit Card :(

Thanks for checking that out for me...

[GreenGrandAm01]

I was planing on using paypal to but i looked sence i have made the mistake of not looking before. Guess i should have said something i few day ago but just got around to posting today.

[tw0123]

ccrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaappppppppppppppp...........

guess i play the waiting game to see what they say in their return email...

[Shiwnath]

15 so far! almost there

[adrian13]

just got 16 everyone!! 12 days left but we could vote to extend the deadline if we don't make it, but this really is going to happen! Holy Sh!t finally!!!

[Mike The Canadian]

I just ordered so make that 17

[tw0123]

18 kits paid for... i really hope i dont miss out on this :(

[<woj99>]

Paid. That should make it 19.

Tw0123, I wouldn't stress too much about it, even if you can't pay in time if they cut it off at 20 (this is still an assumption based on the wording of the group buy since no one has confirmed this), I'm sure you can work something out with the guys at PFYC to reserve one of the additional 5 sets if you let them know about having to wait for your transfer.

[AleroB888]

Wow, now I'm glad I didn't order 10 sets. That would have been embarrassing :lol:

[mrmike]

DING! Now serving 20 baby!

[colonel6632]

:coolio: :yahoo:

[03Sleepr]

21 paid for now, I was honestly worried we wouldn't make it when it sat at 8 for a while..

[unchained01]

Thanks to all that made this happen !!!! By the replys to PM's I have gotten ,We should surpass 25 by monday And Brian at PFYC is very impressed by this and will let someone know if we can get the extrs made if we hit 25+ he didnt forsee a problem but will give us feedback ASAP

[Philbar71]

So anybody with a rear bar they dont want/need... pm me :D

[jabartram]

So anybody with a rear bar they dont want/need... pm me :D

ill have a rear for sale.

[colonel6632]

im keeping both of mine, i just want my bars before i go to school lol. im excited to see the difference in my handling. hopefully it'll be better

[Philbar71]

ill have a rear for sale.

Sweet. When you get it send me a pm ;D

Or if somebody wants to go half and half in im up for it too.

[emncfi]

I too will have a rear bar for sale, as I already have the rear on my car.

[Papa Rad17]

21 paid for now, I was honestly worried we wouldn't make it when it sat at 8 for a while..

SAME! this is gonna be awesome! 22 paid now. legit! I'm we get them before ASS

[unchained01]

I got PM's from 2 other people from other site. This WILL be at 25 by Monday. !!!!!! WOOOOO HOOOO !!!!!! I will email or chat with Brian and see if there will be more than 25 sets made.

[tw0123]

here is the response I got from Brian...

Tim, we're trying to find out if they'll allow us to place the order and then maybe add a few more bars in before it's finalized. I'll get back to you when I find out, but as of now we have enough to get the order going with the manufacturer.


At this time, he does not know if they will be allowed to add more sets, but he is looking into it... As of now, it looks like I'm screwed, especially if they don't take pay pal... dammit :(

[billytheman1188]

GOOD JOB GUYS!!!! WE DID IT!!!! Thank you to EVERYONE involved in this. Especially Matt....you're a damn hero! haha...oh yea....and PFYC ;)

[ga2001532]

I put my order in a couple of days ago.

[Shiwnath]

Holy sh*t! We're at 27 so far. Thats awesome!

[unchained01]

i emailed Brian and asked if the buy will be open until the 31st And if more stes will be ordered than we have deposits for I think we will have 30 before all is said and done !!!!

[hok666]

will they be available after the group buy?

[Papa Rad17]

will they be available after the group buy?

if they make more then the 25 sets.

[unchained01]

Thats what i am trying to find out now and if more will be ordered if we have 30 orders and they will get 5 extra as an example we needed 20 and they were willing to have 5 because 25 was minumum order I would like to se it at 35 all together , but i also dont want them eating any of this for their excellent effort I

WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BUY STAY OPEN UNTIL THE 31ST CUTOFF DATE Is that ok with everyone else ????

That would make it fair for those who need the extra time to get financing

I will post when i find out from PFYC

[Shiwnath]

Thats what i am trying to find out now and if more will be ordered if we have 30 orders and they will get 5 extra as an example we needed 20 and they were willing to have 5 because 25 was minumum order I would like to se it at 35 all together , but i also dont want them eating any of this for their excellent effort I

WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS BUY STAY OPEN UNTIL THE 31ST CUTOFF DATE Is that ok with everyone else ????

That would make it fair for those who need the extra time to get financing

I will post when i find out from PFYC

Agreed, it would give others like Tim enough time to get their order in as well as the chance for PFYC to get more people in on this and make more money. Everyone wins and I dont mind waiting 11 more days

[tw0123]

Thanks guys... I really appreciate you trying to get me the time to get this sorted out... Brian has not confirmed or denied if they take paypal or not... and said he is still trying to find out how they can fill more orders etc after it is sent off...

[Mike The Canadian]

I hope we find a way to get you in on this man!

[03Sleepr]

im fine with waiting for the 31st..money is extremely tight since school just started again and I have only payed for the deposit so far.

side note, how do I pay for the rest of it? there are no options to pay for the other 130+ship..

[tw0123]

just paid a deposit... totally forgot about a separate bank account I had been using for savings... transfered that cash to the credit card and made the deposit... will transfer the money from Pay Pal back to the savings account to make it all balance... it didn't update to 28 deposits, but I am hoping that is simply because it is now 12:25am and no one is working over there lol...

Also, heard back at 10:30... they do not take pay pal... thank god for forgotten savings accounts!!!

[cammed3x00]

make that 29 deposits now

[kwhauck]

Very nice to see such as overwhelmingly successful group buy!! I really thought I would have to buy 5 sets just to get it to go through!! and I already have a set on my car!! lol

[unchained01]

glad you got in Tim !!!! and i think it 30 or 31 now i got a few more on gagt and gaoc in the past day or so to make deposits

[Papa Rad17]

Wow, once this got off the ground it really blew up

[tw0123]

ya I am so relieved lol... it is hard to believe that this was causing me that much stress lol... goes to show how obsessed we can get over our cars!!!

and to top it off, someone on gagt was saying how fast this platform is dying off... less than 2 weeks and we have more than enough for the buy to happen... yet its dying off... right.... lol

big thanks to Matt for helping us out with this buy, and to everyone who offered to help others (me especially)... truly shows that this is more than just a forum about a car... it is really a family community that sticks together... a thing I am very proud to be a member of...

[unchained01]

Got a response from Brian Group buy is still open for group pricing and shipping until Jan 31st And any order after will pay more for pricing and shipping

[tw0123]

That is fair enough... still gives people the rest of this week to get in... Plus still the option to get one afterwards as well...

[hok666]

just ordered mine :D and we are well over the minimum required. Last time I had checked it was 27

[unchained01]

Last time I chatted with Brian it was 30 And one member from GAOC. Ordering the 27th It will be 31 or 32+. LMAO !!!!!! And they will have some available for sale also

[JLw7123]

iam still undecided i need to replace both rear struts and springs. might just got with all new struts all h&r springs.

[Papa Rad17]

So they are going to start manufacturing them now right?

[Shiwnath]

So they are going to start manufacturing them now right?

I think PFYC is going to put in the order now. It's unknown at this point when the actual manufacturing will start and end. Shouldn't take more than 6-8 weeks.

[unchained01]

i would look for them around mid march

[GaBrand02]

Yeah Mid-March is most likely when you will get them. I'm from over at GAOC, and it's great to see these going through!

[colonel6632]

when are we supposed to pay the second half?

[Shiwnath]

when are we supposed to pay the second half?

IIRC when PFYC has them in their warehouse ready to be shipped to us, they'll ask for the second half of the money before they ship.

[colonel6632]

ok i just needed to know something was happening lol. its not even on the site anymore

[Papa Rad17]

any new word?

[kwhauck]

Mid-march was the word......

[Papa Rad17]

Mid-march was the word......

I want them now though:(

(and I do believe bird is the word)

[unchained01]

Yeah mid march. So far I talked to Brian when trying to find out about AGX struts. And he said he hasn't heard anything and will check and email when he finds out.

[billytheman1188]

Doing the 3500 swap next weekend....if only these came in a little earlier....then i could do the front bar while the engine is out. Any word on the progress?

[tw0123]

i emailed to ask if they would take the rest of my payment or set up a page like the one for the deposit... brian emailed me back saying it would be too confusing to try that given this turned out to be a lot more then they were expecting... just have to be patient and wait it out... hopefully they should be in within the next couple of weeks...

[Papa Rad17]

despite my excitement for them... who wants my spot in the buy? I have the initial payment down for the set and with the alero totaled have no use for them...

[kwhauck]

despite my excitement for them... who wants my spot in the buy? I have the initial payment down for the set and with the alero totaled have no use for them...

what about your alero buddy?

[Papa Rad17]

what about your alero buddy?

haven't you heard?... http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35669

[kwhauck]

I'm referring to your friend, that owns an alero.

[Papa Rad17]

I'm referring to your friend, that owns an alero.

he doesnt want to spend that kind of money on it. he's sticking to more of bolt on upgrade stuff.

[tw0123]

^^ lol not to be a smartass, but these are bolt on upgrade stuff.... :)

[AleroB888]

^^ lol not to be a smartass, but these are bolt on upgrade stuff.... :)

Yeah, but there's a lotta heavy stuff you gotta UN-bolt first, though

[billytheman1188]

Yeah, but there's a lotta heavy stuff you gotta UN-bolt first, though

Yeap....which is why im so pissed this buy is taking forever. I have the subframe dropped right now and im NOT doing this again anytime soon so i think i might just throw some new bushings in for now and then eventually when i have another car put the new bars in. It's getting close to april....still no updates on this is going. w/e though....just glad its getting done

[tw0123]

Yeah, but there's a lotta heavy stuff you gotta UN-bolt first, though

I know... like I said... being a smartass... :)

[Vitamin CC]

Hey has anyone herd anything? Or has anyone got their sway bars in yet? I was hoping they would be done and shipped around or by now but I havnt herd anything. Anyone know whats going on? I have never got anything from PFYC.com before and I really dont feel like getting ripped off, (not that they would) I just hate buying stuff online. Well and i hate waiting to hahaha

[Papa Rad17]

due to the much larger then expected order they are probably taking a bit more time.
/also bump for anyone who mich be interested in my spot...

[billytheman1188]

Every time i go over to work on my car i get pissed cause theres NO WAY im dropping this damn subframe again to put on the bar. idk wtf im gonna do cause im not paying a mechanic to do it....who knows. Just wish they were here now while everything is out.

[MMGT1]

Sub frame, no problem, rear mount... f*in' kitty can lick my grundle! That has to be the worst job on these cars. That rear mount is as horrible as it gets

[Starglow]

Every time i go over to work on my car i get pissed cause theres NO WAY im dropping this damn subframe again to put on the bar. idk wtf im gonna do cause im not paying a mechanic to do it....who knows. Just wish they were here now while everything is out.

I'm in the same boat. Got the 3400 engine out and ready to drop in the 3500 engine but want to do the new front sway bar install first while the engine is still out. Hope we get an update on the bars from PFYC soon.

[Shiwnath]

I could wait... My plans this year for my Alero have been put to a halt. I'm probably going to be looking into a second car for school and parking the Alero in the winter..

I'm still glad we got such an amazing turn out. Even though these are taking longer than expected, atleast we had so many n-body owners that came
together to make this work and it happened. I'm always glad to see that aftermarket parts for the n-body platform can be available if we all work together.

[Philbar71]

Sooo. Im tempted to take Papas spot... Not too sure whats goin on here, but has anybody heard anything at all from them as far as if the bars have even been made yet...? If they haven't even been manufactured yet IDK if I want to drop that kind of money for something that hasn't even been thought about yet.

[AleroB888]

Just out on GrandAmGT:


Here's a little teaser for you guys...we got the pre-production test bars and fit them and they looked good, so we hope to have news this week on when they will be due in to our warehouse. Then we'll contact everyone to collect balances and get them shipping as soon as they come in.

http://www.pfyc.com/supportfiles/gabars2012.jpg

[Philbar71]

Well, that's certainly good news... Very very tempting

[happyisthealero]

cant wait!

[Papa Rad17]

Sooo. Im tempted to take Papas spot... Not too sure whats goin on here, but has anybody heard anything at all from them as far as if the bars have even been made yet...? If they haven't even been manufactured yet IDK if I want to drop that kind of money for something that hasn't even been thought about yet.

it'd be a HUGE help is ya did :awesome:

[Caboose73]

I might be interested in your spot how much is it for both front and rear?

[tw0123]

$280 + shipping

[Papa Rad17]

$280 + shipping

how much the dp? iv slept a bit to much sense then...

[tw0123]

the dp was $150, thus $130 + shipping remaining

[Papa Rad17]

they were offering a$20 flat rate shipping for people in the group buy right? I've had a few people wanting details for them...
STILL LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE MY SPOT!!!!!!!

[Caboose73]

Ill go in for a front and rear were do i send the money?

[Papa Rad17]

I actually just received word from someone wanting my spot. if they back out I'll shoot a pm your way. if not they were going to make some for sale on top of those in the group buy.

[Shiwnath]

Ill go in for a front and rear were do i send the money?

if Papa gets someone else to take his spot, you're not out of luck. PFYC ordered 5 extra sets I believe for their own stock. So you still may get lucky unless they fly off the shelves quickly. Also some people already had the front and only needed the rears and were forced to buy both in the group buy and vice versa so you should be able to buy each piece off some of the members who are getting in on the group buy.

[Vitamin CC]

anyone have any updates on when they are gonna ship them out?

[billytheman1188]

anyone have any updates on when they are gonna ship them out?

Nope. NO updates from them whatsoever.....its a LIIIIIITLE bit annoying. If i could i would cancel my order.

[Vitamin CC]

Ya no kidding, im getting a bit ticked off here, is been far to long without any sort of update. I was expecting to get them like last month. Not Happy with the way this has been going.

[mfuller]

Yeah.....good luck getting ANYONE ELSE to make aftermarket......well, anything for these cars.

[mrmike]

Would it really be an Aleromod group buy if it all went smoothly though?

[tw0123]

i dont know why you are all upset about it... they said roughly 6-8 weeks after the order was submitted... it also turned out to be much larger then expected, so that will take more time for the company to produce the required sets to fill the order to be shipped back. they sent a recognition that the test pair was in and tested on the car for approval... would you have rather they skipped that stage and just shipped everything and have it end up like the osv kit that went horribly wrong???
i for one do not mind the extra wait time... ya it would have been nice to get them in mid march as we all thought, but at the same time, quality takes time to manufacture... be patient and it will be worth the wait... previous members who have these bars will attest to that fact...

[Vitamin CC]

I just dont see making an extra 10 bars or however many it was taking over a month to make...

[unchained01]

i would rather have them correct and be totally satisfied also I totally missed the announcement of the test pair when did they get them ???

[billytheman1188]

I just dont see making an extra 10 bars or however many it was taking over a month to make...

Yea.....seems like we were put on the back burner. They must have "more important" things to deal with. I'd just like an update....it's not the length of time that pisses me off....its the lack of updates.

[tw0123]

I agree the updates sucks but... not much we can do unless we have someone emailing them weekly for them...

as for the update:
http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showpost.php?p=613505&postcount=355
first posted over on GAGT, then Greg copied it here for us to see...

[unchained01]

I hope they are here before i go on vacation lol That post way from the first of the month so we should get them in a few weeks , preproduction and test fit Now they have the settings and they have to get stock in for production and make them Shouldn't be long now They will be worth the wait Anyone know the part number for the energy suspension (red) endlinks for the front ?

[GaBrand02]

After reading this I went and checked my order on PFYC, and it says estimated shipping date is 4-8 weeks from today.

Not that I'm complaining, These will be awesome to have, and I'm in no rush, just wanted to post the info.

[Papa Rad17]

iv been in contact with him getting everything sorted out to get my spot taken, I asked for an update for you guys, as of today he said the only update he had was "very soon"

[Shiwnath]

iv been in contact with him getting everything sorted out to get my spot taken, I asked for an update for you guys, as of today he said the only update he had was "very soon"

better then nothing? lol

[tw0123]

I emailed them last night and this was their response this afternoon:

We were told last week that the shipment would head to us this coming week so we'll be making an announcement to that effect sometime very soon.

so ya... probably another month before they actually get out...

[Papa Rad17]

Im still waiting on a reply from the member who was going to take my spot. the link is fixed for it... hopfully he will get around to it soon. once you guy's get these on your alero's be sure to post up, im interested to see what kind of difference will be made.

[Starglow]

I just got an update from PFYC that the sway bars were expected to be shipped out to them today and buyers should be seeing an email within the next week.

[unchained01]

i just got my email today that they will arrive at PFYC warehouse thurday or friday !!!! Whew!!!, just in time i am leaving the country for 2 week vacation and wouldnt want these sitting out until i arrive

[happyisthealero]

PFYC.com sent me an email yesterday that my sway bars are on there way

[colonel6632]

paid my deposit, just waiting for them to get here now

[happyisthealero]

Mine are in Hodgkins, IL for now. Delivery date is set for tomorrow. Will try to post pics

[tw0123]

UPS tracking label has been created :) waiting for final shipping date up to Canada!!

[billytheman1188]

Excited to get these....but i wont be able to get them installed any time soon :(

[happyisthealero]

got em might post pics later cause im lazy right now

[xXManwhoreXx]

Pics or gtfo

[happyisthealero]

Lol!

[jabartram]

They're here.

the front bar is heavy. the rear bar seems more stout than the speedbuilt rear i have now.

[xXManwhoreXx]

Boner achieved

[happyisthealero]

thats what mine look like

[Starglow]

Got mine today too...I thought the grease-able bushings were included as part of the deal but they weren't.

[Papa Rad17]

Got mine today too...I thought the grease-able bushings were included as part of the deal but they weren't.

they should have been...

[mrmike]

did anyone get the bushings?

[billytheman1188]

No bushings? What a fail.....they said they would come with bushings.....i think:lol:

[jabartram]

i got black poly bushings.

[Starglow]

No bushings? What a fail.....they said they would come with bushings.....i think:lol:

They DID come with bushings (mine are red), but not with the re-grease-able ones like these, and no new brackets, but no biggie.

http://www.pfyc.com/GA4008.html?Category_Code=GA

[mfuller]

The picture for the replacement bushings is misleading.
The bushings that come with the bar are not grease-able, and you need to use you existing mounting brackets (the bushings fit perfectly in them).

[a.graham52]

no reason you couldnt make them greaseable

[mrmike]

Would it be worth the cash to replace all the endlinks as well? My rear endlinks have the bushings oozing out the sides.

[happyisthealero]

I got red and black, I think they want me to play a drinking game

[Starglow]

I got red and black, I think they want me to play a drinking game

It's a test....you have to figure out which color is the left & right side bushing. :lol:

[Starglow]

Would it be worth the cash to replace all the endlinks as well? My rear endlinks have the bushings oozing out the sides.

Yep....I plan on replacing mine both front and rear.

[Starglow]

no reason you couldnt make them greaseable

Yeah, but it might be difficult to get a grease gun up in there to grease them though.

[jabartram]

does anybody know who produced the bars? this rear bar looks heavier duty than the speed built rear bar i have now. and the front bar is pretty heavy.

[mrmike]

are these hollow or solid bars?

[mfuller]

They are solid.
Measure them with some digital calipers - front should be 28.6mm and rear should be 22.2mm.

[happyisthealero]

It's a test....you have to figure out which color is the left & right side bushing. :lol:

I hope not LOL... Should be pretty simple to understand though both sway bars are different sizes. I decided earlier on that I would upgrade to the bushings that you can grease.

[03Sleepr]

mine came in today, pretty happy because I payed my balance monday so I was expecting them friday-ish.. ready to get them put in now!

[happyisthealero]

mine came in today, pretty happy because I payed my balance monday so I was expecting them friday-ish.. ready to get them put in now!

pics please I need to know how to install them LOL

[mrmike]

oh yeah made it to Canada
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/lethalSakura/swag1.jpg

nice finish on them
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/lethalSakura/swag2.jpg

That front bar is HEAVY and THICK
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/lethalSakura/swag3.jpg

Real nice
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/lethalSakura/swag4.jpg

Swag
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w312/lethalSakura/swag5.jpg

[mrmike]

BTW the border fees and duty was another $72

[Mike The Canadian]

Wow... those pictures make me realize how pathetic the stock ones (atleast rear, I haven't seen a front stocker) are....

[mfuller]

PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!

Everyone who bought new swaybars -
Please be careful! These bars will drastically alter the handling of the car. It's very neutral, but if you overcook a corner the back-end will come around on you. It's fine if you are prepared for it, but I don't want anyone wrecking driving like a hooligan in an uncontrolled setting.

[Mike The Canadian]

PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!

Everyone who bought new swaybars -
Please be careful! These bars will drastically alter the handling of the car. It's very neutral, but if you overcook a corner the back-end will come around on you. It's fine if you are prepared for it, but I don't want anyone wrecking driving like a hooligan in an uncontrolled setting.

With front and rear or just one or the other?

Ive never really pushed the car hard enough to see what would happen with the regular ones so I hope I don't reach this limitation on these!

Thanks for the heads up

[mfuller]

I used both on my car and it was neutral. If you do just the front bar it understeers like a pig; just a rear bar and the ass-end gets pretty skittish.

They will really draw attention to shitty tires.

[happyisthealero]

Good to know thank you. How does the handling differ with the thicker sway bars and lowered stance from lowering springs? the reason I ask is because I have eibach pro waiting to be installed.. Oh and when I get the money I would like to buy AGX adjustable springs.. Just wanted to throw in any and all possibilities.. thanks aaron

[03Sleepr]

I used both on my car and it was neutral. If you do just the front bar it understeers like a pig; just a rear bar and the ass-end gets pretty skittish.

They will really draw attention to shitty tires.

sounds like it's time to upgrade wheels/tires now! and brakes while I'm at it..

[jabartram]

excellent tires, excellent brakes, great suspension, these should swing me around the autocross track nicely, my car already wheel lifts in the rear on hard corners, that crossbrace i made solidified the rear.

[mrmike]

So does anyone have them on yet? I'm curious about the difference.

[colonel6632]

have mine installed, love em! installed with a breeze. car feels so much stiffer with much less body roll

[xXManwhoreXx]

The front was a breeze? Dont you hav to drop the cradle?

[happyisthealero]

have mine installed, love em! installed with a breeze. car feels so much stiffer with much less body roll

make a how-to!

[happyisthealero]

I think I read, from someone in this thread, that these would not work with our sway bars is that true?


http://www.pfyc.com/pc/GA4008/ALSUSP/Speedbuilt+Replacement+Bushings+for+N-Body.html

[xXManwhoreXx]

I dony know for sure but the new ones are much thicker than stock, so unless you drill out the bushing somehow.. Its most likely a no

[colonel6632]

two things.

1. those bushings are supposed to work i believe since it says they are for next level or speedbuilt. not factory.

2. ya the cradle has to drop. but its just 3 bolts on each side. and then there are 3 bolts for a mount thats attached to the cradle. pull them too, drop it

heres how i did it basically. there wont be pictures since i already installed them

1. lift front of car off the ground, supper each side with jackstands in a secure spot and remove jack. obviously dont put the jack stands on the subframe.

2. remove tires (optional) just makes life easier.

3. put jack in the middle of the subframe. near the back of it. you'll see where.

4, there is a... 22mm? bolt that goes through the control arm, sub frame, and then into the car. pull them on each side

5. then after those there are 2 little.... 15mm? bolts, pull those.

6. slowly lower the jack so the subframe and the engine fall down

7. there is also 1 bolt and 2 nuts that hold down a tranny mount i believe. i pulled that so that it just moves a bit.

8. remove endlinks.

9. pull the swaybar brackets... 15mm? bolt i believe. easy to pull

10. remove swaybar

11. do reverse and tighten everything


any questions feel free to ask, ill try my best

[03Sleepr]

installed mine today, made a write-up too!

http://www.aleromod.com/forums/showthread.php?p=617596#post617596

[Starglow]

So you didn't have to disconnect the tie rod ends or the steering intermediate shaft? Every procedure I've read so far says to do those steps.


two things.

1. those bushings are supposed to work i believe since it says they are for next level or speedbuilt. not factory.

2. ya the cradle has to drop. but its just 3 bolts on each side. and then there are 3 bolts for a mount thats attached to the cradle. pull them too, drop it

heres how i did it basically. there wont be pictures since i already installed them

1. lift front of car off the ground, supper each side with jackstands in a secure spot and remove jack. obviously dont put the jack stands on the subframe.

2. remove tires (optional) just makes life easier.

3. put jack in the middle of the subframe. near the back of it. you'll see where.

4, there is a... 22mm? bolt that goes through the control arm, sub frame, and then into the car. pull them on each side

5. then after those there are 2 little.... 15mm? bolts, pull those.

6. slowly lower the jack so the subframe and the engine fall down

7. there is also 1 bolt and 2 nuts that hold down a tranny mount i believe. i pulled that so that it just moves a bit.

8. remove endlinks.

9. pull the swaybar brackets... 15mm? bolt i believe. easy to pull

10. remove swaybar

11. do reverse and tighten everything


any questions feel free to ask, ill try my best

[03Sleepr]

So you didn't have to disconnect the tie rod ends or the steering intermediate shaft? Every procedure I've read so far says to do those steps.

no you do not.

[Starglow]

I think I read, from someone in this thread, that these would not work with our sway bars is that true?


http://www.pfyc.com/pc/GA4008/ALSUSP/Speedbuilt+Replacement+Bushings+for+N-Body.html

I just ordered Energy Suspension grease-able bushings using the following part numbers taken from an older PFYC sway bar group buy post I found for the same bars.

ENS-9.5158 Rear
ENS-9.5164 Front

I did not buy the PFYC bushings because of the following statement at the bottom of the page on their website:

"You can use your existing brackets, they're not included with these bushings."

This statement is very misleading and because the PFYC price is a little cheaper than anywhere else I found, it's unclear if the brackets are included or not.

[billytheman1188]

"You can use your existing brackets, they're not included with these bushings."

Their saying "you can use these new bushings with the old brackets....but the brackets aren't included"....so if for some reason you needed new brackets, you have to buy them separate.

[Starglow]

Their saying "you can use these new bushings with the old brackets....but the brackets aren't included"....so if for some reason you needed new brackets, you have to buy them separate.

I still don't think that statement should be there at all and no other site that sells those same bushings has it, so I don't see any valid purpose for it other than causing customer confusion which is why I purchased my bushings from another site even though it cost me a bit more. But I didn't want to take any chances buying the PFYC bushings based on their product description.

PFYC also doesn't include the size information or Energy Suspension part numbers for reference, so there's not enough information provided for me to make an informed purchase decision to know exactly what I'm getting from them.

[03glgold]

I still don't think that statement should be there at all and no other site that sells those same bushings has it, so I don't see any valid purpose for it other than causing customer confusion which is why I purchased my bushings from another site even though it cost me a bit more. But I didn't want to take any chances buying the PFYC bushings based on their product description.

PFYC also doesn't include the size information or Energy Suspension part numbers for reference, so there's not enough information provided for me to make an informed purchase decision to know exactly what I'm getting from them.

i disagree entirely about them not putting that statement...if you take the time to read it (paying attention to wording
), it makes perfect sense what it says...I would be mad however if they didn't put it and you were expecting it to have new brackets because it doesn't say anything only to find out that there are none

[Starglow]

i disagree entirely about them not putting that statement...if you take the time to read it (paying attention to wording
), it makes perfect sense what it says...I would be mad however if they didn't put it and you were expecting it to have new brackets because it doesn't say anything only to find out that there are none

Doesn't really matter to me now since I already have grease-able bushings on order from another website with a more clear product description.

[Mike The Canadian]

Big props to MMGT1 and his bro.
Installed the front and rear, did an amazing job, took great care of the car they were working on and a more than reasonable price.