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Bigshot44
09-28-2010, 05:21 PM
Not sure where to post this but here it is.

I have an 03 Alero and i need help with figuring out what the motor is ill upload a pic soon. Also the gas mileage is horrible on it any clue on fixing that?

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb395/Angelo_Rizzuto/Engine1.jpg?t=1285709378
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb395/Angelo_Rizzuto/Engine2.jpg?t=1285709377

lord2heart
09-28-2010, 05:24 PM
to help with your gas milage problem. you can do one or all of the following.

change/inspect air filter

change fuel filter

lose some weight. (think that every 100 pounds was like 1-2 off your mpg?)

inflate your tires a tad more but dont go over the rated tire pressure.

mods that would help increase mpg

throw in a CAI/WAI

change muffler to somthing less restrictive (no fart cans)

lord2heart
09-28-2010, 05:26 PM
you can also run some GM top end cleaner or seafoam the hoe. that'l help too.

and also changing from dino to syn oil can help in getting more miles to a gallon??

Bigshot44
09-28-2010, 05:31 PM
got the pics up. dont know how to re-size though lol

Bigshot44
09-28-2010, 05:33 PM
to help with your gas milage problem. you can do one or all of the following.

change/inspect air filter

change fuel filter

lose some weight. (think that every 100 pounds was like 1-2 off your mpg?)

inflate your tires a tad more but dont go over the rated tire pressure.

mods that would help increase mpg

throw in a CAI/WAI

change muffler to somthing less restrictive (no fart cans)


Tonight ill check the air filter.
By fuel filter do you mean oil filter?
ill check and inflate tires
whats a CAI/WAI

[ion] C2
09-28-2010, 05:37 PM
That is an L61 2.2L Ecotec engine.

Bigshot44
09-28-2010, 05:39 PM
C2;557700']That is an L61 2.2L Ecotec engine.

good, so i was right. anyone know where i can pick up a sticker for the engine it bugs me having it blank like that

lord2heart
09-28-2010, 05:55 PM
Tonight ill check the air filter.
By fuel filter do you mean oil filter?
ill check and inflate tires
whats a CAI/WAI

no, theres a fuel filter under your car by the tank

CAI- cold air intake

WAI- warm air intake.

they both benefit in getting better mpg

lord2heart
09-28-2010, 05:56 PM
http://sites.google.com/site/aleromodupgrades/

bookmark this. its good

heineck
09-28-2010, 06:21 PM
On ebay u can get the decal for the idi cover. I had a turbo ecotec one. I just didn't put it on cuz mines not turbo lol. Grab a container of Blu-Magic and go to town on that valve cover

clutch1
09-29-2010, 01:07 AM
How bad's the gas mileage?? Like numberwise

If it's superbad, find a buddy with a good scanner and some knowhow... then watch the live data, especially fuel trims, and sometimes you can find a problem that way.

Redog
09-29-2010, 03:00 AM
How heavy is your foot?

Get it running right BEFORE mods

Bigshot44
09-29-2010, 02:16 PM
if i had to guess i'd say around 19 mpg city.
i heard disconnecting the battery would work should i try that?

Blktrax
09-29-2010, 04:34 PM
If its got around 100K miles on it, it needs plugs (double platinum or Iridiums, I forget on the L61), also even thought you already know what motor it is, that sticker on the passenger side strut tower says exaclty what motor and emmissions equipment came on the car.

Heres the factory part for plugs: GM P/N 12569190 or 41-981-AC plug type

Bigshot44
09-29-2010, 04:37 PM
that sticker on the passenger side strut tower says exaclty what motor and emmissions equipment came on the car.

the sticker on it was ripped off.

Blktrax
09-29-2010, 04:42 PM
Look at your very first picture, all the way to the left, where the Strut bolts to the car. Big white sticker with 2 barcodes on it. I know you meant the decal, but the proper way to identify and engine without knowing is to look at the build sticker or get the build codes directly off the block. All too often auto parts are misidentifed becuase of swapped decals and covers.

Cliff8928
09-29-2010, 09:29 PM
That's the VECI (Vehicle Emission Control Information) Label.

Bigshot44
10-01-2010, 01:58 PM
would it be worth it to get a cai? ive been thinking about getting one but cant decide... Or save up and get the spoiler

AlbinoMonkeyRat
10-01-2010, 09:56 PM
no spoiler until you fix the car.

the rule is: upgrade as you fix, then you can mod. example: broken stock spring and blown struts...leads to lowering springs and newer struts.

in your case, figure everything out that is wrong, and fix them one at a time. Once everything is "fixed", then you can do some fancy schmancy stuff.

of course, it's your money. if you wanna blow it on some ugly wing before you fix it, that's up to you.


things that can help your mileage:
-properly inflated tires
-clean air filter. if the one you have now is bad/dirty...GET THE CAI! and aftermarket intake kit is comparable in cost to a new drop in filter...though the replacement K&N filter is on the expensive side, but the cheapo would be fine for a while.
-ensuring the fuel system is clean [fuel filter, injectors, etc] (get some of those STP fuel system cleaners at the gas station next time you fill up. make sure you DON'T get the diesel one. lol)
-make sure your brakes aren't rubbing without them being pressed (when you're parked, the pads shouldn't be touching the rotor)
-make sure your oil and oil filter are "fresh". (get that changed every 3k-5k miles...not sure on the distance in metric...5k-10k km?)
-make sure ALL of your fluids are up to date. not sure on the mileage of all the fluids, but the owners manual should have that.
-make sure you aren't driving like John Force at every traffic light. granny drive it.

my 2.4L was getting 13mpg last winter (a lot of bad things plus shitty gas) and I fixed a lot and now I'm getting almost 32mpg (I had 400 miles on one tank last week).

Bigshot44
10-01-2010, 10:39 PM
I bought a stp cleaner near the end of summer because I heard lots of bad things about that kind of stuff. Like it cleans it but then it clogs the injector. Not stp but cleaners in general.

[ion] C2
10-01-2010, 10:50 PM
You have a lot to learn about cars.

Bigshot44
10-02-2010, 04:23 AM
well idk my dad said he did that to his car and it messed his engine

[ion] C2
10-02-2010, 09:06 AM
Right.

Don't disconnect your battery; it will do nothing but lose your radio settings and reset the long term fuel trims (which will do nothing to change the way your car performs).

Off the shelf pour in your tank fuel injector cleaner is somewhat pointless, but it definitely won't "mess the engine." If you feel an injector has a buildup of deposits inside it, take them to an actual fuel injection shop and have them flowtest and clean them off the car. The newer style injectors are very resistant to deposits that would reduce flow. I've never heard of anyone having an injector clog or be limited in flow to cause a lean condition. Even mine were tested to be performing perfectly after withstanding a lot on my car.

Don't put a huge wing on a 4 door. Or any car for that matter. But especially not a weird-shade green stock Alero.

Bigshot44
10-02-2010, 05:17 PM
Don't put a huge wing on a 4 door. Or any car for that matter. But especially not a weird-shade green stock Alero.

i wasnt planning on putting a giant wing on it i just want something because i dont like the look of the trunk. besides, i see many 4 door cars with spoilers and customed out.

03Sleepr
10-02-2010, 05:24 PM
yea, those 4 door civics with the big wings, they're called rice.
and for cleaning out your engine, run some seafoam through the gas and in the vacuum lines.
19 city is some pretty good mileage if you ask me, my truck gets around 7 city, if I can keep my foot out of it (next to impossible

Bigshot44
10-02-2010, 05:42 PM
yea, those 4 door civics with the big wings, they're called rice

i hear that word all the time what does it actually mean?

heineck
10-02-2010, 05:59 PM
japanese cars, people in japan eat alot of rice. the cars are called rice rockets? people who drive em are ricers? is any of this getting through? use the search button man. u got alot of learning to do

Bigshot44
10-02-2010, 11:31 PM
u got alot of learning to do

i am only 16 and have only had a car for a month, so i would think so.

robalero
10-03-2010, 07:48 AM
change your fuel filter, it may not do a heck of a lot for performance but it will give you better fuel mileage and any performance mods you do can get the fuel easier.

I just changed my fuel filter yesterday and it was the original one with 227k on it ( km's ) that thing was fiarly clogged up and had a hard time letting anything go thru

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 12:56 PM
change your fuel filter, it may not do a heck of a lot for performance but it will give you better fuel mileage and any performance mods you do can get the fuel easier.

I just changed my fuel filter yesterday and it was the original one with 227k on it ( km's ) that thing was fiarly clogged up and had a hard time letting anything go thru

my cars at 100k though should i still change it?
i already changed the air filter and spark plugs, i may change the oil filter next.

02AleroEco
10-03-2010, 01:08 PM
my cars at 100k though should i still change it?
i already changed the air filter and spark plugs, i may change the oil filter next.


If youre gonna change the oil filter, then change the oil too. Or when it comes time to change the oil, youll just be buying another filter most likely

jhubbz
10-03-2010, 02:11 PM
RICE: Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements

btw i have a 4dr without a wing and i love it, I actually really dislike the stock wings. but hey, its your ride. make it yours!!

03Sleepr
10-03-2010, 02:22 PM
I've got a 4 door with the stock wing, but I'm not much of a fan or it either, I do however like the Razzi wing and the OSV kit, but I dont want to go over the top, and performance > astetics

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 02:27 PM
I don't like the stock either but I also don't like trunk :/
Is anything wrong with having a "ricer" car?

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 02:31 PM
I don't like the stock either but I also don't like trunk :/
Is anything wrong with having a "ricer" car?

JLw7123
10-03-2010, 02:32 PM
yes because it is an alero not a honda and the razzi spoiler is nice. But do not get a giant alunium spoiler or giant fiberglass spoiler it will look terrible. A big spoiler is meaningless on a FWD car unless you put it in the front. But if you want to have a giant spoiler on you car i warn you you will flamed for it on this site for as long as you have it because ricers do not belong on this site.

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 02:40 PM
Okay. What about a midsized wing. I just like the look of customized cars with body kits and semi-big wings, nice rims lowered etc etc etc

Ttop191
10-03-2010, 02:41 PM
technically there is nothing wrong with being a ricer...its just a form of opinion about what makes a car look good, if you like vinyl decals, park bench wings, paint jobs with more than one color, then i say go for it, its your car do whatever you want.

as a side note though. it is looked down upon within this community and many others. But like i said before its your car do what you want to with it, no one is stopping you

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 02:47 PM
Well if that's looked down upon what's looked up to?

JLw7123
10-03-2010, 02:50 PM
well the razzi would look good with a bodykit. there are not may spoilers that will look good on an alero. I would say get the razzi or these spoilers


http://www.andysautosport.com/oldsmobile/1999_2004_alero/exterior/wings/paintable_wings/restyling_ideas/

http://www.andysautosport.com/oldsmobile/1999_2004_alero/exterior/wings/carbon_fiber_wings/nrg/

Ttop191
10-03-2010, 02:50 PM
Performance mods is the most important here i would say... if you do make cosmetic mods make them clean do a really high quality job. but to be honest, i think you should do whatever looks good, who gives a damn what everyone else thinks, if you are proud of it thats all that matters, dont let others persuade you into thinking what you like is wrong

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 02:53 PM
If I do get a spoiler will I get kicked out of the forum? >.<

JLw7123
10-03-2010, 02:55 PM
no you do not have to worry about that. Like Ttop said it is your car mod your car they way you like it.

Ttop191
10-03-2010, 02:56 PM
hell no lol, people will harass you about it for a while but then they'll get over it. If you want one get it, all that would commence is a minor case of cyber bullying, cause a lot of people here like to talk tough over the web

heineck
10-03-2010, 02:59 PM
u wont get kicked out, but after awhile youll get tired of getting lumped in with the Fast and Furious skittles car car scene.

kwhauck
10-03-2010, 03:01 PM
If I do get a spoiler will I get kicked out of the forum? >.<

yes.....

JLw7123
10-03-2010, 03:02 PM
ya they will get over it but some wil not but just ignore them. Give him a break he is just learning about how to mod his car. Let him mod it the way he likes it.

03Sleepr
10-03-2010, 03:03 PM
IMHO its not the rice burner cars that are looked down apon as much as its the drivers, not all of them, just the ones that live around me. the ones that CONSTANTLY want to street race, claiming their wing, stickers, and CAI give them the fastest car on the street. and trash talking towards anyone who doesnt own a honda or integra thats exhaust sounds like a herd of pissed off mosquitos and the tip scrapes when ground while the car is sitting 6 inches from the ground

Ttop191
10-03-2010, 03:07 PM
X2 to that, its 99% about the attitude...for example...I drive a honda...but you don't see me bragging about V-Tec and all that dumb shit. If i did, Kyle would have booted me off long ago hahaha

kwhauck
10-03-2010, 03:09 PM
no i wouldn't, come on, i personally haven't booted a single person off this site.....

Ttop191
10-03-2010, 03:11 PM
I know lol, I just pick on you to give you a taste of your own medicine ;)

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 03:12 PM
This is the kind of car I like.

http://s.bebo.com/app-image/6530556703/6530508241/PROFILE/i.idlestudios.com/img/q/u/08/04/25/Skyline_small.jpg

JLw7123
10-03-2010, 03:16 PM
That is a skyline from the Fast and the furious 2

Ttop191
10-03-2010, 03:18 PM
yes ok lol thats the epitome of ricer, thats Brian's car at the beginning of 2 fast 2 furious lol, Nissan Skyline lol, anyway, If thats what you want to do to your car, go for it, just don't be an outrageous jackass and act like your car is fast just because it looks that way

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 03:23 PM
Haha I don't think ill go that far. Mines just a 2.2 eco.

heineck
10-03-2010, 03:25 PM
Just a 2.2 ECO?!?!?!?!!?!

Ttop191
10-03-2010, 03:26 PM
lol you say that, but with mods Eco's can lay down some pretty good times, its just you need to keep a modest attitude and try to help out others while learning about things yourself, that is what it means to be a part of this community

colonel6632
10-03-2010, 04:21 PM
Just a 2.2 ECO?!?!?!?!!?!

lol, this made me laugh

[ion] C2
10-03-2010, 06:24 PM
This is the kind of car I like.

http://s.bebo.com/app-image/6530556703/6530508241/PROFILE/i.idlestudios.com/img/q/u/08/04/25/Skyline_small.jpg



Awesome.

heineck
10-03-2010, 06:38 PM
ahahaha thats a bad ass car when its all stock, that ones so butchered its disgusting

Cliff8928
10-03-2010, 07:06 PM
C2;558377']Awesome.

Man, i think they stole your old wing.

Vic28
10-03-2010, 07:31 PM
:wtf2:

http://i53.tinypic.com/r20x80.jpg

heineck
10-03-2010, 09:27 PM
^ no joke.

[ion] C2
10-03-2010, 09:48 PM
Man, i think they stole your old wing.
http://www.korossy.org/meme/unamused.jpg

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 10:50 PM
what could i do to my eco to improve performance?

Edit: I guess i should search b4 i ask?

Cashdollar2009
10-03-2010, 10:57 PM
You can has mine?
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/Terrortodadeer/downsized_0730001842.jpg

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 11:15 PM
he has a big wing why dont u flame him :wtf2:

Cashdollar2009
10-03-2010, 11:34 PM
Because I do this:
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/Terrortodadeer/downsized_0801001110.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/Terrortodadeer/2010%20Build%20Log/0622001505-1.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/Terrortodadeer/0904100213.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/Terrortodadeer/0904100128.jpg
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/Terrortodadeer/0904100530a.jpg
Oh and...
http://i389.photobucket.com/albums/oo331/Terrortodadeer/Im_Better_Than_You_-_Dylan_Taylor.jpg
:)
Take care of what makes your car run first, and in the mean time, do not buy a wing. I thought it was a good idea when I was 16. The "badass" feeling goes away sooner than you think. Feel free to do what makes you happy, i'll just say that it'd be nice to go to an audio competition and get taken half seriously when I pull in. C'mon, i'd make fun of myself... lol

Bigshot44
10-03-2010, 11:46 PM
lol will do. Also do you have a second alternator?

[ion] C2
10-03-2010, 11:48 PM
we did flame him hardcore, and as you can see, now he's getting rid of it

Cashdollar2009
10-04-2010, 12:28 AM
lol will do. Also do you have a second alternator?

lol, no. Why would I need a second alternator?

Bigshot44
10-04-2010, 11:37 AM
lol, no. Why would I need a second alternator?

cause you have those extra bats