Hid Conversions

[brim]

curious where people bought em, I've done some checking on ebay but all seller's claim phillips/hella but nada

HELLA still good? Or any suggestions, looking for something decently cheap but with a good output

[FormulaNERD]

hella is HELLA good. lmao.

but no, seriously. they supply all the HID in the high end european (german) systems. top notch.

but -alero- says get a cheap set off of ebay from jetiko or something. we all know how much he knows about cars, so i'd do that for sure.

you looking for bulbs/ballasts or projector assemblies to retrofit into your housing?

[FormulaNERD]

also, just a quick question. if the option was available, would you pay 1400 for hella OEM headlights, with projectors, bulbs, internal ballasts, plug and play wire harness (no jank splicing or ugly wires/ballasts anywhere) with perfect light output and cutoff?

its just a personal question.....completely theoretical, simple yes or no.

[brim]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Sep 12 2005, 07:28 AM
also, just a quick question. if the option was available, would you pay 1400 for hella OEM headlights, with projectors, bulbs, internal ballasts, plug and play wire harness (no jank splicing or ugly wires/ballasts anywhere) with perfect light output and cutoff?

its just a personal question.....completely theoretical, simple yes or no.
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as of right now the bulbs and ballasts

only reason being that converting to projectors would be a waste of cash on this car as of right now, also because I'm 80% sure I'll have a different headlight combination with the next car.

I already know that without the projectors the light output isn't as crisp but I did like the setup similar to what Naich had before he got rid of it.

and a simple yes or no

no =p, not sinking that much into this ho', next car however I'm starting fresh

[brim]

need a relatively decent but price conscious setup (ebay runs $200-350 on avg.), nothing too overkill since I'll probably sell it off when I get rid of it down the line.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Sep 12 2005, 03:25 AM
hella is HELLA good. lmao.

but no, seriously. they supply all the HID in the high end european (german) systems. top notch.

but -alero- says get a cheap set off of ebay from jetiko or something. we all know how much he knows about cars, so i'd do that for sure.

you looking for bulbs/ballasts or projector assemblies to retrofit into your housing?
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yeah cause thats the exact thing i said, damn your professionally homosexual. :lol:

who in thier right mind would reccomend ebay for HIDs? hell ive never even heard of jetiko.

i'd go through phillips if i could. but what do i know....... :glare:

i'd talk to anderbra for the E36 projector style. and look into online companies for HID 9006 kits. but once again what do i know.... :glare:

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Sep 12 2005, 03:28 AM
also, just a quick question. if the option was available, would you pay 1400 for hella OEM headlights, with projectors, bulbs, internal ballasts, plug and play wire harness (no jank splicing or ugly wires/ballasts anywhere) with perfect light output and cutoff?

its just a personal question.....completely theoretical, simple yes or no.
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and no.........you'd have to be one big dumbf*** to do that. c'mon seriously

[FormulaNERD]

dumbf*** for oem hella hids?

on and alero... yeah you're right, you would have to be a dumbf*** to put any money into that worthless moneypitt.

sorry guys.

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Sep 13 2005, 02:21 PM
dumbf*** for oem hella hids?

on and alero... yeah you're right, you would have to be a dumbf*** to put any money into that worthless moneypitt.

sorry guys.
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yeah and i completley agree with you, so why do yo uthink im gonna spend 1300 dolalrs on headlights!?

and yeah 1300 is still over priced, when yo uknow damn well yo ucould piece together your own. kinda like the way anderbra does lights.

also there are shops that do retrofits i thought you knew that.

[FormulaNERD]

i dont care what you say, 1300 isnt overpriced for OEM quality with a warranty. and if our economy wasnt so poopty they'd be cheaper (for the VW). minus import fees and the exchange rate the HID's would be $1057

[-Alero-]

marright

[ImSoBored]

I still wouldn't pay 1057 for them. woopdee doo, Ive got oem hella lights. Im cool now, but I paid over 1k for them. nope, you'd have to be a moron to pay that much.

And don't bother tryn to pull the alero/money pit bull. I don't put any money into this pos

[FormulaNERD]

like i said, if you didnt have a POS like an alero. i dont have an alero anymore, and i would never spend even $200 for alero headlights.

[brim]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Sep 14 2005, 07:19 PM
like i said, if you didnt have a POS like an alero. i dont have an alero anymore, and i would never spend even $200 for alero headlights.
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then you see where i'm gettin at

heh

200-300 kit for better light output

[-Alero-]

Originally posted by FormulaNERD@Sep 14 2005, 03:19 PM
like i said, if you didnt have a POS like an alero. i dont have an alero anymore, and i would never spend even $200 for alero headlights.
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why do you even post here then?

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by brim+Sep 14 2005, 08:05 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(brim @ Sep 14 2005, 08:05 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-FormulaNERD@Sep 14 2005, 07:19 PM
like i said, if you didnt have a POS like an alero. i dont have an alero anymore, and i would never spend even $200 for alero headlights.
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then you see where i'm gettin at

heh

200-300 kit for better light output
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you're not gonna get better light output. there will be no cutoff, plenty of glare, and scattered light, it might be cool for a minute thinking "ooooh, bright" but all in all you just wasted money, and eventually you're going to blind someone in front of you (hopefully a large truck) and they're going to kill you.

[-Alero-]

lol damn.......

talk to anderbra for a projector retrofit. he does great work

[FormulaNERD]

so, projectors... $150-200 (e46, audi tt, e38), shrouds $100, anderbras services? maybe 250 to 500. ballasts for D2S about 100 each. bulbs 40(garbage)-200.

and these prices are all bottom dollar ebay stuff.

so, at the cheapest, you're looking at $780, and max you're looking at 1200-1400.

[FormulaNERD]

oh, and that's not counting shipping on anything.

[b-spot]

As some may know, I did a lot of research on HID's. Here are some points to add to the discussion:

1. FormulaNerd: I would buy those in a heartbeat. Some people may kid themselves and think they could do it for cheaper but they are full of poop. Even if you pay yourself $20 an hour for labour, your costs are going to get WAY up there. Your material costs alone will be close to 1G atleast.

2. What kind of kit to buy: Phillips or Hella. Both are equally as good. Make sure the balasts AND bulbs are both Phillips/Hella. Some places will use poopty bulbs. (Naich's kit). Check www.xenonfactory.com. Full Phillips kits.

3. Retrofits in the alero: Glare isn't THAT bad. They are drivable. You will notice significantly better lighting. I think I only ever got flashed once running this way for about a year. Get 4100K bulbs. Nothing more than 5000K. They all look white anyways without projectors.

4. If you get projectors, get Hellas. Get Eurospec ones too.

[FormulaNERD]

finally, someone with any amount of lighting knowledge chimes in.

[-Alero-]

anderbra qouted me under 400$ for a retrofit if i remember.

he gets discount pricing on hid items

[FormulaNERD]

Originally posted by b-spot@Sep 14 2005, 09:24 PM
3. Retrofits in the alero: Glare isn't THAT bad. They are drivable. You will notice significantly better lighting. I think I only ever got flashed once running this way for about a year. Get 4100K bulbs. Nothing more than 5000K. They all look white anyways without projectors.
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i dont really agree with this, with both silverstars, and then philips vision plus, i got flashed nightly, because of the excessive glare.

i'll have to post pictures sometime of my VW light cutoff, no projector, just stock halogen setup. the difference is like night and day.

[b-spot]

^ I think part of that has to do with inconsistency in the light housing construction for the Aleros. My Drivers headlight had a WAY better beam than my passenger side. Luckily the passenger side was f*cked up in a way that shed less light up (it lit up the road 2 feet infront of the car REAL good... and yes I had it aimed properly).

One of the glare shields on mine was crooked and I had to fix it when I cleared my headlights as well.