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ptrudel
10-18-2005, 11:39 PM
alrite...175 000 kms(just over 109 000miles), and i'm gettin a noise that sounds like the valves ticking...possible?
also, its starting to lose coolant(very slowly, but still) and i'm losing oil pressure in sharp turns(over 25mph)
is my motor dead or what?
pawzbear
10-19-2005, 01:12 AM
motor dead? im no expert or anything close but that would make sense.. these are pretty peppy lil engines but not too tough.. especially at over 100k miles
Mine was rebuilt at about 50k.. only cuz of the previous driver totalling it in some stupid way.
so i dunno =-P im sure someone on here has better info to offer you Patty cakes =)
ptrudel
10-19-2005, 11:27 AM
i've seen these 2.4's hit well over 120k miles with no issues...now, i drag raced and stuff like that, but i wouldn't expect it to die this quick...especially cuz i cant afford it right now ...
jamcllw
10-19-2005, 11:28 AM
your screwed
j/k I know jack crap about the 2.4
ptrudel
10-19-2005, 11:34 AM
Originally posted by jamcllw@Oct 19 2005, 11:28 AM
your screwed
j/k I know jack crap about the 2.4
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lol thanks for that expert outlook on things...even tho you say you know jack crap, you're probly right :Noooo:
DRA-GON
10-19-2005, 12:42 PM
I honestly don't know what could cause the issue but I hope its nothing to serious/exspensive for you. :wacko:
Fast Eddie
10-19-2005, 04:30 PM
Without listening to the car its kinda hard to diagnose the problem. Are you sure its the top end and not the bearings? Does it get faster as RPMs increase?
Are you constantly replacing coolant or have you just recently noticed that the level is low?
How do you know you are getting low pressure in the corners? You could just be low on oil triggering the oil to move to the side of the pan and the idiot light to come on temporarily?
Change your oil and see what it looks like, metal in there is bad, very bad. Is there any coolant in there? If that is ok pull the plugs and see how they look.
Oldsman
10-19-2005, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by 2000_olds_alero@Oct 18 2005, 09:39 PM
alrite...175 000 kms(just over 109 000miles), and i'm gettin a noise that sounds like the valves ticking...possible?
also, its starting to lose coolant(very slowly, but still) and i'm losing oil pressure in sharp turns(over 25mph)
is my motor dead or what?
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valve ticking? i doubt it. maybe lifter noise. does it get louder or go away when you rev it up?
losing coolant since you have the miles you do i would say change you water pump.
losing oil pressure in sharp turns. well since our oil pan is not baffled this can me normal. it is a common problem with the 2.4. best bet is to change the oil and put 5 quarts in it the extra oil help from the sloshing. also it is not wise to take very sharp turns in the 2.4 because this leads to the #3 bearing going out which leads back to the sloshing.
i would recommend change oil, oil filter. add prolong to your oil. put in 5 quarts of oil.
also change water pump, t-stat, and coolant.
ptrudel
10-19-2005, 10:44 PM
wow..thanks guys...as for the ticking, over 2500rpm it disappears..i think...i cant hear it, and haven't had a chance to put something other then burning my hand to see if its still there...
the oil level is up, i'll see what it looks like come oil change time saturday...
thanks again
kwicslvr
10-19-2005, 10:51 PM
Well I have 139,000 on my 2.4 and it has never had an engine problem.
j-work
10-20-2005, 11:12 AM
I have 84000 miles and I am just doing a tune-up before winter... new plugs, boots, and O2 sensor. Anybody recommend percautionary repairs or anything else while I have it taking apart?
Oldsman
10-20-2005, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by j-work@Oct 20 2005, 09:12 AM
I have 84000 miles and I am just doing a tune-up before winter... new plugs, boots, and O2 sensor. Anybody recommend percautionary repairs or anything else while I have it taking apart?
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water pump and t-stat. and when you do that use a new timing chain and tensioner.
Oldsman
10-20-2005, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by 2000_olds_alero@Oct 19 2005, 08:44 PM
wow..thanks guys...as for the ticking, over 2500rpm it disappears..i think...i cant hear it, and haven't had a chance to put something other then burning my hand to see if its still there...
the oil level is up, i'll see what it looks like come oil change time saturday...
thanks again
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another thing to check for ticking is the power steering fluid level. i noticed once mine was low and it made a odd noise. so check that out and top it off.
keepitsimple
10-20-2005, 06:43 PM
y amy engine died at 99000miles spun a bearing, thats why the rebuild, but kinda off topic i want to put a turbo on soon t3 and with my mods what do you think i can run for boost i was hopin at least 13 + and how much hp would i gain?
pawzbear
10-20-2005, 11:03 PM
kinda off topic? lmao
Fast Eddie
10-21-2005, 10:32 AM
Originally posted by Oldsman+Oct 19 2005, 03:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Oldsman @ Oct 19 2005, 03:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-2000_olds_alero@Oct 18 2005, 09:39 PM
alrite...175 000 kms(just over 109 000miles), and i'm gettin a noise that sounds like the valves ticking...possible?
also, its starting to lose coolant(very slowly, but still) and i'm losing oil pressure in sharp turns(over 25mph)
is my motor dead or what?
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losing oil pressure in sharp turns. well since our oil pan is not baffled this can me normal. it is a common problem with the 2.4. best bet is to change the oil and put 5 quarts in it the extra oil help from the sloshing. also it is not wise to take very sharp turns in the 2.4 because this leads to the #3 bearing going out which leads back to the sloshing.
i would recommend change oil, oil filter. add prolong to your oil. put in 5 quarts of oil.
also change water pump, t-stat, and coolant.
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If you put in too much oil you start to get froth from the crank whipping it up constantly and the pump will not pick it up. I'm not sure how much fill fit without frothing, but if the crank doesn't churn it, the balance shafts will, if you have them.
Matthewfinlay04
10-21-2005, 07:55 PM
I have 175K miles on mine and I just replaced the water pump, leaking from the weep hole. While in there we replaced the chain, guides, and tensionors. Also replaced the Thermo for the first time ever! Don't know about everyone else but other than regular maintance on my alero I haven't had any real trouble with it mechanically. As for the ticking I think that typical for the quad four engine to be a little ticky at idle. my had done that since we bought it with a little over 15K on the car. But if it gets louder as you rev then there def a problem. As for the leak check the water pump and all your hoses. Do you know approx the leak is comign from?? Passenger side prob the water pump. Driver side either upper raidiator hose or heater hoses, given that you don't have a blown gasket. As for the oil light?????
Oldsman
10-22-2005, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Fast Eddie+Oct 21 2005, 08:32 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Fast Eddie @ Oct 21 2005, 08:32 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by Oldsman@Oct 19 2005, 03:55 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-2000_olds_alero@Oct 18 2005, 09:39 PM
alrite...175 000 kms(just over 109 000miles), and i'm gettin a noise that sounds like the valves ticking...possible?
also, its starting to lose coolant(very slowly, but still) and i'm losing oil pressure in sharp turns(over 25mph)
is my motor dead or what?
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losing oil pressure in sharp turns. well since our oil pan is not baffled this can me normal. it is a common problem with the 2.4. best bet is to change the oil and put 5 quarts in it the extra oil help from the sloshing. also it is not wise to take very sharp turns in the 2.4 because this leads to the #3 bearing going out which leads back to the sloshing.
i would recommend change oil, oil filter. add prolong to your oil. put in 5 quarts of oil.
also change water pump, t-stat, and coolant.
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If you put in too much oil you start to get froth from the crank whipping it up constantly and the pump will not pick it up. I'm not sure how much fill fit without frothing, but if the crank doesn't churn it, the balance shafts will, if you have them.
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by putting in the extra 1/4 of a quart there is no issues with the crank whipping the oil.
Fast Eddie
10-24-2005, 02:42 PM
.25 of a quart no, but you typed 5 quarts, cap is only 4. ;)
Nikatrel
12-09-2005, 09:16 AM
First problem at 51,000k miles - Had to replace ignition coil on cylinders 3 and 2, cost $550
Second problem at 66,000k miles - Had to replace ignition coil on cylinders 4 and 1, cost $550
Third problem at 78,000k miles - Threw a rod bearing and f***ed up the block, replacing with a new 40k mile motor. cost $2500, its still in the shop from this incidence.
I hate my car, its the 2.4L 2001 GL
ptrudel
12-09-2005, 09:29 AM
mine doesn't wanna die i think...113000miles and still rnnin...the little ticking sound's still there, can't find out...i'm thinkin valves...its nothin major yet so i'm not TOO worried just yet...wonder how she'll do at 120k miles...
the leak i had is gone...dunno what it was but its not leakin no more
Super White Alero
12-09-2005, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by Nikatrel@Dec 9 2005, 09:16 AM
First problem at 51,000k miles - Had to replace ignition coil on cylinders 3 and 2, cost $550
Second problem at 66,000k miles - Had to replace ignition coil on cylinders 4 and 1, cost $550
Third problem at 78,000k miles - Threw a rod bearing and f***ed up the block, replacing with a new 40k mile motor. cost $2500, its still in the shop from this incidence.
I hate my car, its the 2.4L 2001 GL
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Replaced ignition coil? @ less than 100K. Was this from the dealer or your average joe repair shop?
Our engine may not be the toughest, but unless you constabtly redline, you really can't throw a rod bearing.
ptrudel
12-09-2005, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by Super White Alero@Dec 9 2005, 11:10 AM
Our engine may not be the toughest, but unless you constabtly redline, you really can't throw a rod bearing.
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pffft...i beg to differ....how many motors you know can take nitrous so well or turbo/SC without costly internal mods(to a certain point...not nothin stupid extreme like 15psi)
i drive mine hard...drag race it and redline shifts aren't uncommon when i'm drivin with my buddies...i have no complaints about the 2.4....only complaint i have is the rotors, hubs, paint, rear defrost and whatever other problems that usually come with the 'ho...
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