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cherrington17 11-05-2008 01:08 PM

that sucks.

CactusWill 11-05-2008 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat (Post 403885)
call this: I accidentally tightened the brake line bolt and the head broke off. (this morning before I had a lot of light, so I was just feeling around) and now I'm letting my brake fluid drip into a cup so I can take the caliper back off again to fix it.



10 ft lbs is the MAX for that bolt... gotta be easy on those

AlbinoMonkeyRat 11-05-2008 01:27 PM

now you tell me. lol

AlbinoMonkeyRat 11-06-2008 12:03 AM

well, now I am waiting for a stealership to get in the banjo bolt...might take a few days. so in the meantime, my Alero rides a tripod in the driveway while I cruise in granny's Charger.

cherrington17 11-06-2008 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CactusWill (Post 403914)
10 ft lbs is the MAX for that bolt... gotta be easy on those


really? mine was so hard to get back on, i broke the socket wrench. i was retightening the thing with a breakerbar, since i didn't have the arm strength to get it to tighten it enough to stop it from leaking...

... and yes, i can do AT LEAST 10ftlbs my hand. :glare: bolt didn't break either.

CactusWill 11-06-2008 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrington17 (Post 404227)
really? mine was so hard to get back on, i broke the socket wrench. i was retightening the thing with a breakerbar, since i didn't have the arm strength to get it to tighten it enough to stop it from leaking...

... and yes, i can do AT LEAST 10ftlbs my hand. :glare: bolt didn't break either.



Sounds like the threads weren't lining up.... Its alot easier to crossthread or damage the threads than it is to break the bolt

zzyzzx 11-06-2008 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat (Post 404177)
well, now I am waiting for a stealership to get in the banjo bolt...might take a few days. so in the meantime, my Alero rides a tripod in the driveway while I cruise in granny's Charger.


You are having a dealership replace your banjo bolt? Or were you unable to find a replacement banjo bolt at a regular auot parts store?

I'm thinking that a rebuilt caliper put in yourself would be cheaper than taking it to the dealer.

Or just remove the caliper then dril out the existign banjo bolt and retap.

billytheman1188 11-06-2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CactusWill (Post 404233)
Sounds like the threads weren't lining up.... Its alot easier to crossthread or damage the threads than it is to break the bolt


tell me about it.....i stripped my bleeder bolt on my back driver side caliper. :( the problem was that i was using a smaller ratchet and i wasnt getting enough torque...... once i switched to the bigger ratchet, they came off nice and easy.

AlbinoMonkeyRat 11-07-2008 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzyzzx (Post 404370)
You are having a dealership replace your banjo bolt? Or were you unable to find a replacement banjo bolt at a regular auot parts store?

I'm thinking that a rebuilt caliper put in yourself would be cheaper than taking it to the dealer.

Or just remove the caliper then dril out the existign banjo bolt and retap.

oh, my car is in my driveway. none of the autoparts stores have the right size banjo bolt. they all have coarse threaded and mine is fine threaded. I already have the broken one out, that's how I know. I'm just waiting for the part to come in at the dealer so I can do the work myself. (the stores can't order the part...they don't carry the right size)

Cliff8928 11-07-2008 01:25 AM

Yep, it makes no sense why they wouldn't carry the M10x1.0 banjo bolt but they don't. Many cars with aluminum calipers require that size.

zzyzzx 11-07-2008 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cliff8928 (Post 404528)
Yep, it makes no sense why they wouldn't carry the M10x1.0 banjo bolt but they don't. Many cars with aluminum calipers require that size.


Let me take a guess here. They have plenty of banjo bolts in stock, but none are metric. Am I right?
:(

zzyzzx 11-07-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cliff8928 (Post 404528)
Yep, it makes no sense why they wouldn't carry the M10x1.0 banjo bolt but they don't. Many cars with aluminum calipers require that size.



From NAPA's webpage:

http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPage...+Mounting+Bolt



Brake Hose Banjo or Mounting Bolt
Item#: UP 83166
Attributes:
Features & Benefits: Coated to Resist Corrosion & Prevent Rust.
Product Features: Designed To Match O.E. Fit
Form & Function.
Overall Length: 1.15"
Thread Size:M10 x 1"

Doesn't give a price though. Just says:
Available at NAPA stores. This part can only be purchased from your local NAPA AUTO PARTS Store.

Did you even try NAPA? They seem to have a whole lot more than everyone else, and their other banjo bolts range from $3-$4.70

zzyzzx 11-07-2008 09:18 AM

From autozone's webpage:

Motormite / Banjo Bolt for a 1999 Oldsmobile Alero



About this product:
Part Number: 313940
Weight: 0.04 lbs.
Pricing: $1.99

Availability:
Store: Normally stocked at your local store.

zzyzzx 11-07-2008 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat (Post 404523)
I already have the broken one out, that's how I know.


Your lucky to have gotten the old one out! How did you do that?

One time I broke off the head of a bolt it was a valve cover bolt that had been soaking in leaking oil, and the top end was sufficiently rough enough for me to just stick a flat head screwdriver in it and turn it to get the bolt out. The last time I broke one, it was on a lower radiator support and it was completely rusted out. I had to drill and tap it. That took a very long time.

zzyzzx 11-07-2008 09:27 AM

Now that I've had more time to think about it, as long as you are going through all the trouble to replace the bolt AND you are willing to wait several days for new bolts, did yu at least think about getting some of those replacement bolts with the check valve in them so that you can bleed your brakes yourself?

billytheman1188 11-07-2008 12:35 PM

^^^^ Thats only for the bleeder bolt.

zzyzzx 11-07-2008 01:36 PM

Isn't a banjo bolt a bleeder bolt?

AlbinoMonkeyRat 11-07-2008 04:36 PM

Banjo bolt is just a bolt with the channel in it to let brake fluid pass through. bleeder bolts have a moving part so you can bleed the brake line without taking it off...kinda like a valve.

AlbinoMonkeyRat 11-07-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzyzzx (Post 404569)
Your lucky to have gotten the old one out! How did you do that?

One time I broke off the head of a bolt it was a valve cover bolt that had been soaking in leaking oil, and the top end was sufficiently rough enough for me to just stick a flat head screwdriver in it and turn it to get the bolt out. The last time I broke one, it was on a lower radiator support and it was completely rusted out. I had to drill and tap it. That took a very long time.

reverse direction drill bits that are designed for just this very thing. I was lucky...and it was pretty easy too. just tap in the bit with a couple taps of the hammer and use a wrench to twist it out. hardly any elbow grease to it...more like knuckle grease lol.

Cliff8928 11-11-2008 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzyzzx (Post 404567)
From autozone's webpage:

Motormite / Banjo Bolt for a 1999 Oldsmobile Alero

About this product:
Part Number: 313940
Weight: 0.04 lbs.
Pricing: $1.99

Availability:
Store: Normally stocked at your local store.


Crazy, the one I work at doesn't (or didn't) have them when I needed them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlbinoMonkeyRat (Post 404691)
Banjo bolt is just a bolt with the channel in it to let brake fluid pass through. bleeder bolts have a moving part so you can bleed the brake line without taking it off...kinda like a valve.


No moving parts on a bleeder screw unless it's a speed bleeder.


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