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jawa 01-23-2012 01:23 PM

trans question
 
I'm looking to change the trans soon. Its starting to slip, I'm looking at a gagt trans. Question is will I run into any issues?

Shiwnath 01-23-2012 01:28 PM

As far as I can see, your PCM needs to be adjusted for the change in gear ratio. Also I remember reading that 03+ 4T45E trannies were upgraded with stronger internals for reliablity or something of that matter.

jawa 01-23-2012 02:04 PM

How do I adjust it

xXManwhoreXx 01-23-2012 02:21 PM

Tuning software like hptuners

I have a gagt tranny in my car's nd the tranny shop did it

zzyzzx 01-23-2012 03:42 PM

Have you tried changing the fluid and filter on your existing transmission?
Have you tried a fluid conditioner?
Is the transmission fluid pressure adjustable on these things?
How many miles are on this transmission?

I have over 206,500 miles on a vintage 1995 Ford Escort automatic transmission, and that's in Baltimore - Washington DC traffic too.

jawa 01-23-2012 06:05 PM

Honestly I'm after the different final drive ratio

Shiwnath 01-23-2012 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawa (Post 607228)
Honestly I'm after the different final drive ratio


Have you driven a GAGT to see the difference? I'd start there first to see it it's really worth the trouble.

jawa 01-23-2012 11:10 PM

Well in found a low mileage lx9. For 200. And I'm looking to put the gagt trans up to that moter

unchained01 01-23-2012 11:11 PM

GAGT ratio is 3.29

jawa 01-24-2012 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zzyzzx (Post 607223)

I have over 206,500 miles on a vintage 1995 Ford Escort automatic transmission, and that's in Baltimore - Washington DC traffic too.



No offence but this is a Oldsmobile were talking about here on a Oldsmobile alero forum, the alero is nothing like the escort that you make reference to quite frequently on this board, they are compleatly different cars, yea the escort is a fine car, so just because it gets better mileage out of some parts because of its lighter weight doesn't make it a good comparison vehical to a heavy alero. Just my input,

jawa 01-24-2012 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiwnath (Post 607213)
As far as I can see, your PCM needs to be adjusted for the change in gear ratio. Also I remember reading that 03+ 4T45E trannies were upgraded with stronger internals for reliablity or something of that matter.


I wonder if I grab the gagt pcm if it would work on the alero

Shiwnath 01-24-2012 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawa (Post 607267)
I wonder if I grab the gagt pcm if it would work on the alero


Not really no... Your PCM has your VIN flashed into it as well so, your car wont really like having a PCM with a VIN other than your own. To be honest your better off getting it reflashed anyways because then you can also fine tune your car and quite possibly gain a bit of HP in the process.

JLw7123 01-24-2012 11:17 AM

pm reddog he has a GT tranny in his alero i am pretty sure.

jawa 01-24-2012 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx (Post 607219)
Tuning software like hptuners

I have a gagt tranny in my car's nd the tranny shop did it


How did you get your trans to work, any noticeable difference?

dbailey 02-22-2012 12:59 PM

When is it slipping? Mine is slipping from a dead stop if I even slightly accelerate hard. I think it is the front tranny mount that has bit it and may be the cause. At least that is what the tranny guy said.

MMGT1 02-22-2012 01:14 PM

There really is so little difference between the two that I would just put another 40 in it... just my 2 cnts. I had the 40 in my se and a 45 in the 00. Comparing the tables, there is really not that much difference.

Redog 02-22-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLw7123 (Post 607281)
pm reddog he has a GT tranny in his alero i am pretty sure.



HAHA No, not yet, but I do plan on putting one in later.

With HPTuners, you can change the gear ratio in about 2 seconds. All the drive gears are the same it's just the FDR.

The nice part about the 4T45 tranny is that they are still using it today! It's used in the New Malibu, the G6, and a few other cars. I know it's also in the G6 4 cyl and the Cobalt with a 3.90 FDR. There is also a 3.61 ratio too.

Fuller has a 3.42 in his car and it's a bit much for a stock engine. He has the next cam up from what I'm putting in. His I believe is a custom job though.

For what I'm doing the 3.29 is a perfect fit. The 3.61 which is next, is too much for my taste :D

mastershake 02-24-2012 08:17 AM

^ so if newer cars are still using the same transmissions, could we swap in a brand new/slightly used one? are they backwards compatible?

Redog 02-24-2012 10:25 AM

^^ That was my point

mastershake 02-24-2012 10:59 AM

right. i was just wondering if they'd be PERFECTLY compatible since they upgrade over the years. then again i'm just dumb xD


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