10-12-2007, 09:40 PM
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Best Supercharger?
I would like to know what is the best supercharger for the 3.4L. I've got all of the modifications needed to run a supercharger with a decent amount of boost. I was looking at the RSM Racing Supercharger Kit, but all I've heard is negative feedback on that system.
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10-12-2007, 09:44 PM
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636 whp
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none are good that are available for the 3400, do a turbo
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10-12-2007, 10:30 PM
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Its Beer Thirty
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Originally Posted by [ion] C2
none are good that are available for the 3400, do a turbo
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I bet kwhauck would disagree with that.
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And, yeah, I try to keep my expectations & standards really low. That's the only way to guarantee that I'll always exceed them. 
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10-12-2007, 11:04 PM
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636 whp
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i knew someone would say such a thing, however realize i wrote "that are AVAILABLE"
his supercharger was one of very few made, and none that i know of are still readily available
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10-12-2007, 11:11 PM
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Its Beer Thirty
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Very true, no one makes shit for the 3400. kwhauck got lucky to get one from the factory. I have looked everywhere for one and haven't had any luck. I think there were only like 16 3400's made with the supercharger. Im sure GM employees own the rest of them.
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Originally Posted by Daytona
And, yeah, I try to keep my expectations & standards really low. That's the only way to guarantee that I'll always exceed them. 
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10-12-2007, 11:18 PM
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Gone
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i'm sure with some fabrication, something could be lifted out of another engine. but the problem is how much work are you willing to do to get it to fit....
anything can fit anything. its just the (fab time+money)/(willpower + determination) equation you gotta figure out.
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10-12-2007, 11:21 PM
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Its Beer Thirty
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Originally Posted by cherrington17
i'm sure with some fabrication, something could be lifted out of another engine. but the problem is how much work are you willing to do to get it to fit....
anything can fit anything. its just the (fab time+money)/(willpower + determination) equation you gotta figure out.
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Fitting it in isn't the problem, The sell superchagers for the 3.4l that came in the S-10s. Its all the tuning that is the hard part or the costly part.
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Originally Posted by Daytona
And, yeah, I try to keep my expectations & standards really low. That's the only way to guarantee that I'll always exceed them. 
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10-13-2007, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyballs_69
Fitting it in isn't the problem, The sell superchagers for the 3.4l that came in the S-10s. Its all the tuning that is the hard part or the costly part.
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Nah, tuning is easy depending on what kind of fuel mods you pick, especially with a supercharger when there will always be the same amount of boost/airflow at a given RPM.
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10-13-2007, 08:16 PM
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I got new heads, valves, pushrods, supercharger ready cam shaft(stage 2), Stage 3 Upper Intake Manifold, Stage 3 Lower Intake manifold, S&S Headers, New PCM Tuned for a Supercharger and Nitrous, Spark Plug Wires and Platinum 2 Spark Plugs. The RSM Supercharger is just about right for my set up and I'm pretty sure I will be able to run about 13-15lbs. of boost.
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10-13-2007, 09:21 PM
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Its Beer Thirty
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Originally Posted by Spilner521
Nah, tuning is easy depending on what kind of fuel mods you pick, especially with a supercharger when there will always be the same amount of boost/airflow at a given RPM.
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Im sure it is easy for someone who has done it before.
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Originally Posted by Daytona
And, yeah, I try to keep my expectations & standards really low. That's the only way to guarantee that I'll always exceed them. 
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10-13-2007, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by volfenhag_alero
I got new heads, valves, pushrods, supercharger ready cam shaft(stage 2), Stage 3 Upper Intake Manifold, Stage 3 Lower Intake manifold, S&S Headers, New PCM Tuned for a Supercharger and Nitrous, Spark Plug Wires and Platinum 2 Spark Plugs. The RSM Supercharger is just about right for my set up and I'm pretty sure I will be able to run about 13-15lbs. of boost.
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and you forgot forged pistons and rods? good luck with 15 PSI
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10-13-2007, 10:15 PM
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I already upgraded my pistons and rods and my fuel system.
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10-13-2007, 10:29 PM
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sounds like you're all set, why supercharge for the enormous price RSM offers, plus negative reviews, when you can do a turbo setup for far cheaper? talk to BJ!
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10-13-2007, 11:09 PM
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you would be better off turbo'd, you have endless possibilities. with a s/c you are limited.
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10-14-2007, 12:14 AM
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links for a turbo kit for the 3400 ?
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10-14-2007, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyballs_69
Im sure it is easy for someone who has done it before.
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It's easy if you understand how the whole system works and how your fuel system is setup, which honestly you should understand fully if you're going to build and/or tune your own kit.
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10-14-2007, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jabartram
you would be better off turbo'd, you have endless possibilities. with a s/c you are limited.
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I agree.
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10-14-2007, 02:23 PM
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Its Beer Thirty
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spilner521
It's easy if you understand how the whole system works and how your fuel system is setup, which honestly you should understand fully if you're going to build and/or tune your own kit.
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If I ever get to that point with my car Im sure I would learn to do it. No point in paying someone when you can do it yourself.
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Originally Posted by Daytona
And, yeah, I try to keep my expectations & standards really low. That's the only way to guarantee that I'll always exceed them. 
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10-14-2007, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyballs_69
If I ever get to that point with my car Im sure I would learn to do it. No point in paying someone when you can do it yourself.
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i tune constantly at this point, i make small changes drive for a couple days to let trims settle, and tune again, so that when i get my turbo kit, i'll be mentally prepared for what i need to do.
its amazing what tuning can do for power, each car is different, i was still in VE-Tune stage when my friends Mazda 6 couldnt leave me, now i'm working on maf-tune, then timing so on and so on.
Last edited by jabartram : 10-14-2007 at 02:57 PM.
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10-14-2007, 10:43 PM
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I want pics of this build. And who sells "stages" for intake manis?
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