DOHC_tuner ALL MOTOR update

[billytheman1188]

Originally Posted by [ion] C2

guess you can't really visualize the amount of flex the vehicle body undergoes

ok....for KW's set up i see why he would want it. if hes going to put out 400+ HP...OK. i guess i just cant see spending a shit ton of money on a three point bar that really wont make a noticeable difference. but to each their own

[-Alero-]

basically your saying it wont make a noticable difference.......but at the same time you dont even have proof to back that up......its like your saying the stb was invented for no reason what so ever

[hok666]

I would buy one if they where out there, but.. I already bought the ones from pfyc black and red I think.. I still gotta install them

[Oldsman]

Originally Posted by -Alero-

ok is there no explanation as to why it has a shine to it?

or this this one of those "dont worry about it" subjects where its too painful to talk about?

99 to mid 01 had the shiney smooth one after that they were dull and rough.

[billytheman1188]

Originally Posted by -Alero-

basically your saying it wont make a noticable difference.......but at the same time you dont even have proof to back that up......its like your saying the stb was invented for no reason what so ever

I just want someone to explain to me HOW a three point is better than a two. Does the front section of your car move that much that you need one more point of contact? I would think those three bars would be good for people who drift or race their car on a track. but for road use, i just dont think the three point will make a difference cause you wont be sliding around and making your engine compartment move. BUT KW does have a crazy motor build in the works, so for him.....yea its probably gonna help some. SOMEONE JUST EXPLAIN IT!

[[ion] C2]

when the vehicle turns, the body flexes. brace it, it doesn't flex (as much).

it's not rocket science.

[Spilner521]

The entire car flexes a lot when turning, especially the strut mounting points (strut towers) since the struts are the main suspension components connecting the wheels to the chassis. The struts aren't connected to each other in any way, so they're free to flex and move independently. Tie them together with a 2 point strut brace (the most common) and it stiffens things up a bit. Only problem is, you just connected 2 flexy strut towers to each other, so now they flex together instead of independently.

Ok so that's a little better than it was with no brace. A 3 point brace connects the two strut towers together, and then anchors the bar to the firewall, which doesn't flex nearly as much as the strut braces since it's a large part of the unibody structure. This pretty much takes any flex out of the struts and lets the suspension do it's job better.

Having a powerful engine has nothing to do with it. The entire car is going to flex regardless of the engine's power output.

[Gr1m]

i was just going to type that up, ya beat me to it

[Spilner521]

Yeah sure you were

[[ion] C2]

winnar

[kwhauck]

chicken dinnar

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

they even made them red to stand out! Those side braces would be nice to have on the Alero......

[kwhauck]

yeah i was thinking about the gtp setup....

[DOHC_tuner]

Originally Posted by -Alero-

ok is there no explanation as to why it has a shine to it?

or this this one of those "dont worry about it" subjects where its too painful to talk about?

Honestly no explanation...hows does others look? I thought they were all like that

[Spilner521]

Originally Posted by kwhauck

yeah i was thinking about the gtp setup....

It's not just the GTP that has those chassis braces, my brother's Olds Intrigue has them too. They'd be a nice addition to the Alero, especially if you already have the 3 point STB

[kwhauck]

Originally Posted by Spilner521

It's not just the GTP that has those chassis braces, my brother's Olds Intrigue has them too. They'd be a nice addition to the Alero, especially if you already have the 3 point STB

now that idea is ftw......

[AlbinoMonkeyRat]

trying to fit the 3-point in an Alero could prove to be a pain in the ass though. current designs line the STB up with the hood seal, and not low enough to bolt into the firewall. if we had somebody to fab up some heavy-duty metal parts though.....

[Spilner521]

Kwhauck, what do you plan on using for a 3 point STB? An existing bar with extra braces added on, attaching to the firewall, or a fully custom made bar?

[kwhauck]

most likely fully custom, i got connections for cnc and aluminum...