seprate battery

[tomekbrek]

More power, more fun, in SQL is one rule, power never too much- it is PL version, maybe USA is a different, i do not know.
By the way... I added sec. battery and XXL, woofer and sub - control is better, dynamics is better, etc. on sound stage you can see instruments and size up.
e.g. without battery and xxl i received notes for focusing about 16-17/20
right now even 19-20/20

My english is so weak to describe everything about it.

[Fi-Alero]

Just pointing this out:
Capacitors in theory do not give you more "power". They have their place in car audio, and that place is power supplies in amps, and also crossovers.

If you read on your kinetic 600 (the smallest battery kinetic makes,) it has the power of 100 1 farad caps. This shows exactly how weak caps are.

If you want a useful place to place small capacitors, try putting them inline with your headlights. They are a constant power draw, thus making this a perfect use for a cap.

[Afugy]

Your amp is full of caps why would you need one on the out side?

[tomekbrek]

you do not understeand me... i know for what is cap, and i know that kinetik is as a 100 caps 1F, but it is still battery, it could be as a cap or as a battery for engine, cap couldn't be... in this way, maybe you will try to start engine through 1000 caps... maybe i wrote wrong, kinetik give me more "current" ? in PL power is the same as current.
and maybe you should try to check good caps, not china market, and for HI-END SQL systems, not for DB-drag.
I am not one guy who use good caps for better sound, it is demand in HI-end systems, we normally use 1 good cap for one amp.

[tomekbrek]

Originally Posted by Afugy

Your amp is full of caps why would you need one on the out side?

do you know for what are caps inside an amp?

[Fi-Alero]

A cap is not a battery.

Also, a cap has nothing to do with a "high end SQL system" so why is it in demand lol?
I'll tell you what an external cap is, it is a marketing scam that looks fancy. I don't care where the cap is made at.

I come from a scene that tries to keep voltage high for a long length of time. If it's for a SQ run.... or even an SPL run, you will not see a cap.

Where you will see a cap is from the local wal-mart shopper that has about 5 in line with his amp, and says his "boi" makes it be slappin.

[Afugy]

Originally Posted by tomekbrek

do you know for what are caps inside an amp?

Okay I can play your game too.

I will answer your question to a question with 2 questions.

Do you always answer a question with a question?

And are you going to answer my first question?

I once fell for the cap gimmick too, I was very sad when it did nothing.

[Ryan from Ohio]

The great Capacitor debate...

I will just say this.

Whats the Electrical Series Resistance of the Kinetic?

Of the Cap?

Cap wins, hands down. Thus it will provide the current faster to the amp than the battery. Thus during transient note it will better stiffen the voltage rail.

Is it a measurable difference? Probably not.

Is it an accurate statement? You bet.

Are the caps necessary? No they are not.

Do the caps hurt? No they do not.

Are they worth the money? Probably not, but obviously the Polish guy has butt tons of money...

[colonel6632]

lol. thanks for the great cap debate.

but would the smallest kinetic battery be good enough. is a kinetic battery what i need to connect my computer and stereo to?

[Ryan from Ohio]

See the huge problem here is...

Computer.

In car audio unless you got a mega alternator its not uncommon to see fluctuations.

Computers do NOT like power flux's.

So if you dont have the proper alternator, adding a second battery is just another nail in the coffin.

[colonel6632]

ah. well bigger alternators are really expensive. but i guess i'll have to start saving

[Ryan from Ohio]

Well it depends on what you have exactly...

[tomekbrek]

Ryan, i see that caps here (USA) and wire in PL - the same problem, we have a lot of posts on our forums about wires, a lot of them has the same title: wires and influences on sound and tones.


Afugy, i will tell you one thing about my caps, normally are switch off, even 1h-2h, but only one hard beat, and they are on... why? if caps doesn't work and are not needed.

I see and hear the difference with caps and without, the same is with XXL, but... it is not a subject of this post, for me, EOT here.

[Fi-Alero]

Wires effecting "sound" in a car environment? Please explain.

I have a feeling this is going to sound like the THD debate.

[colonel6632]

Originally Posted by Ryan from Ohio

Well it depends on what you have exactly...

well the computer is just a little one. the intel atom processor. and i have that alpine v-power amp at 1000w. and a clarion amp at 150w rms. and that crossover.

[Ryan from Ohio]

Put a voltage meter on your setup and run it at idle then crank the system up.

If the voltage caries or changes your alternator is not sufficient.