12-21-2010, 03:56 AM
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GX Member
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Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Air intake tubing that you should buy
You may be using Spectre's corrugated plastic tubing. I am, and I have it because it's extremely cheap. However, I strongly recommend that you change your setup to this expensive stuff with a couple extras. It doesn't absorb heat from the engine like metal piping does, it won't kink, and it's aircraft-grade stuff that NASCAR, ASA, and SCCA guys use. Actually, NASCAR and other organizations use the single-ply tubing for brake ducting, but double-ply is better because it's smoother on the inside.
Colored Double-Ply Silicone Brake Duct Hose
You can only choose between red, blue, or orange. I think that since the 3" tubing is marked as YELLOW, choosing the colors may not make a difference. The pictures on that site are terrible, so let's look to Amazon for $40-higher prices but with more pictures.
Amazon link
I recommend the 3" ducting since it's easiest to make it work. This stuff is awesome since you just put it on a metal or plastic coupler/throttle body/MAF sensor and tighten it with a hose clamp. It is its own coupler! The price may be a turn-off, but you only need 2-3 feet. With a group buy, we could be set. Do we have enough faith in the forum to do a group buy, and who is normally in charge?
Also, I highly recommend getting a 3" velocity stack adapter.
3" velocity stack adapter
With this, clamp the tubing onto the 3" end and put on an air filter with a 6" flange. Here is a list of 6" flange air filters from K&N, AEM, and Amsoil:
K&N
6" long
8" long
10" long
18" long <- Yes, that's a foot and a half of filtering madness!
AEM
9" long
Amsoil order page
Use the following part numbers:
EaAU6065 - 6.5" long
EaAU6075 - 7.5" long
EaAU6080 - 8" long
Ultimately, this gives you a huge filter, a velocity stack to increase air intake speed, very smooth intake tubing at under $7 per foot (at length), and you should get a few more HP out of this setup than with plastic Spectre tubing. Also, this intake tubing does not absorb engine bay heat like metal piping does. It's in my opinion a superior intake. You will need a small metal/plastic coupler for your vacuum/crank vent/air temp sensor, but I don't have a link for that right now.
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12-21-2010, 04:20 AM
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GX Member
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Well myself I don't like plastic anything. So I used some polished aluminum pipe and just cut and bend to however you like. I would recommend doing it that way to anyone.
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12-21-2010, 04:51 AM
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GX Member
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Aluminum tubing is great and is very smooth, but it heats up. I actually don't mind that part too much, but either way this stuff definitely helps when you don't have a tubing bender. After a group buy, it's really cheap and it can be bent with less than human strength. All in all, this is just one more option and not an alternative to all other ways.
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12-29-2010, 11:33 AM
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GLS member
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Location: Indiana
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One word....... Header Heat Wrap...
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12-29-2010, 11:39 AM
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Gone
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Thats 3 words. Good counting skills manwhore.
I have a WAI. What do I care if my aluminum heats up? 
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12-29-2010, 12:04 PM
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I have thought about this but the physics still don't add up. You may have heat conduction with the aluminum piping, but a piece of plastic tubing would be no more efficient at blocking heat transfer to the air within.
Looks like an interesting concept, but appears to be no more than glorified dryer duct tubing...Does not say much about the durability either in case something were to hit the tubing to maintain pressure and protection.
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12-29-2010, 12:09 PM
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636 whp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by radomirthegreat
Aluminum tubing is great and is very smooth, but it heats up.
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Feel my charge piping tubing. All aluminum. The turbocharger side is hot, after going through an aluminum intercooler, the engine side that goes into the engine is cold. Air intake temperatures are always ambient.
Heat wrapping the intake or using all silicone is not going to make any noticeable difference whatsoever...
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12-29-2010, 03:01 PM
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GLS member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by [ion] C2
Feel my charge piping tubing. All aluminum. The turbocharger side is hot, after going through an aluminum intercooler, the engine side that goes into the engine is cold. Air intake temperatures are always ambient.
Heat wrapping the intake or using all silicone is not going to make any noticeable difference whatsoever...
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True... but if they ask how to keep it cool that is an obvious fix
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12-29-2010, 03:15 PM
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what is an intercooler?
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12-29-2010, 03:23 PM
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AutoCross Alero
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my intake tubing is header wrapped from the filter in the fender to the MAF and i wrapped the MAF for good measure. i did it because i had leftover header wrap.
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12-29-2010, 04:15 PM
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2Screwy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderWiFi
what is an intercooler?
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12-29-2010, 05:38 PM
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GLS member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderWiFi
what is an intercooler?
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Do you seriously not know how to google. Try it next time before you have other people waste their time explaining basic things to you.
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12-29-2010, 05:42 PM
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GL Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XanderWiFi
what is an intercooler?
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are you serious
he's turbo'd an intercooler is something that cools down the charge air from the turbo to the air intake
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Last edited by Alerojester : 12-29-2010 at 05:50 PM.
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12-29-2010, 05:44 PM
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GLS member
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IBFT Whats a turbo
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12-29-2010, 05:51 PM
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2Screwy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx
Do you seriously not know how to google. Try it next time before you have other people waste their time explaining basic things to you.
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What's google?
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12-29-2010, 06:12 PM
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636 whp
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12-29-2010, 06:21 PM
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⌘ Irish Pride
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hahaha i cant stop laughing at that cat
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12-29-2010, 08:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xXManwhoreXx
Do you seriously not know how to google. Try it next time before you have other people waste their time explaining basic things to you.
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Before you worry so much about wasting your time: I didn't make you respond to the question-so you have no one to blame but yourself.
While we are on the topic of wasting time. Why don't you stop wasting my time. Because the vast majority of your comments on here are worthless like this one, or completely wrong since I have seen again and again someone with more experience tell you that you don't know jack. The only difference between you and me in that regard is that I know I don't know jack and don't try to act like I do. I'll take jabbing from kwhauck or ion because they offer correct and insightful advice, and they jab in a humorous or playful manner that still gets the point across and not looking like a douche bag.
I am a medical professional, not a mechanic. And last I knew this was a car forum for sharing ideas and information so there is nothing wrong with the question.
Everyone was a noob at one point, and I can see you bringing down the new guys that come into the fold that know nothing but were hoping to learn. Way to inspire a sense of community. Maybe with less nimrods like you there would be better turn outs to the shows. Because if I was new, and dealt with an attitude like yours (without knowing that no one really cared what you thought ahead of time) I wouldn't stick around.
So have fun with it guys. And hopefully the next time you're in the hospital someone can treat you like a dumbass for not knowing the specifics of your condition because it isn't your primary realm of expertise.
I'll step off the soap box now. And apologies for hijacking the thread. I won't make any more mention of the subject and thank god for the ignore button.
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12-29-2010, 08:31 PM
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/rant 
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12-29-2010, 08:58 PM
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Aleromod part owner
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Dude wants to hook up his car, we were all there at the same time.
ManWhore, that was last week for you 
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