alero transmission problems

[zzyzzx]

Originally Posted by Garfield

OK, so he said: "Sounds like a broken low/reverse band but there is a small chance that it is the servo which can be accessed by pulling the pan. how does he get it moving to check the other gears does it move in manual low? It really should set codes and go into failsafe which I believe is 2nd gear."

Did you check for codes? Transmission does don't necessarily light a dash light. On my Escort transmission codes definitely do not (light is mostly for emissions)

[adog420]

It pulled up a code for somthing about a 1-2 seliniod when this first happend it has second and the rest of the gears just not 1st or reverse

[adog420]

All its got is 2nd gear

[Garfield]

Is that after replacing the servo? (2nd gear is the failsafe that it should go into when there is a problem, you might want to check for codes again.)

[adog420]

I just went and got the cervo I'm heading back to the car now and see if that helps

[zzyzzx]

On a different car, but replacing the shift solenoid was reasonably easy (except for removing the crossmember):
http://www.feoa.net/threads/how-to-r...tx-1991.82837/

[adog420]

Easiest way to drop the transmission? I found a hole trans for 150 so I just bought it

[zzyzzx]

It's way easier to replace a solenoid than it is a whole transmission.

[03glgold]

I could be wrong, but IIRC the solenoid on the alero is inside the transmission which is why people usually just swap them.

[adog420]

I swapped the solenoid didn't fix it so now I'm swapping the whole transmission

[Redog]

Originally Posted by 03glgold

I could be wrong, but IIRC the solenoid on the alero is inside the transmission which is why people usually just swap them.

Yes it is, It's a $700-$900 job at a shop, for another $500 I put a used 2003 GAGT tranny in my car with 23,000 miles

[zzyzzx]

Originally Posted by 03glgold

I could be wrong, but IIRC the solenoid on the alero is inside the transmission which is why people usually just swap them.

Yes, which is why you have to remove the transmission pan to get to them, like I did here:
http://www.feoa.net/threads/how-to-r...tx-1991.82837/
Read it and tell me what was easier.

[03glgold]

Originally Posted by zzyzzx

Yes, which is why you have to remove the transmission pan to get to them, like I did here:
http://www.feoa.net/threads/how-to-r...tx-1991.82837/
Read it and tell me what was easier.

Not everything is built the same as your escort that you always try to make an alero. Look it up, it isn't in a spot where it is quite as simple as dropping the pan. It is at the top of the transmission on the 4t45e transmission. While there is a cover, it appears as if you would have to remove the cv shaft, and the splash shield as a minimum in order to replace it with the transmission in car, and that is if you are willing to work around the strut and everything else.

[adog420]

What's the easiest way to get the trans out of the car?

[Nas Escobar]

Usually dropping the whole subframe is the easiest, but that basically requires you to prep the whole engine for removal. You also need to find a way to lift the car from the subframe once the subframe is on the ground.

That is the way another member on this forum is removing his trans.

[03Alerosil]

Originally Posted by Nas Escobar

Usually dropping the whole subframe is the easiest, but that basically requires you to prep the whole engine for removal. You also need to find a way to lift the car from the subframe once the subframe is on the ground.

That is the way another member on this forum is removing his trans.

Yep that's the easiest way. Remove the whole subframe.

[adog420]

How long does it usually take to remove and replace?

[Nas Escobar]

I assume this is your first time doing this, so I assume it will take a day for you to drop it and a day and a half for you to replace it. The "half" portion is because of the time it will take to swap the transmission.

[zzyzzx]

Originally Posted by 03glgold

Not everything is built the same as your escort that you always try to make an alero. Look it up, it isn't in a spot where it is quite as simple as dropping the pan. It is at the top of the transmission on the 4t45e transmission. While there is a cover, it appears as if you would have to remove the cv shaft, and the splash shield as a minimum in order to replace it with the transmission in car, and that is if you are willing to work around the strut and everything else.

That would still be easier than removing and replacing the whole thing!

I see someone here replacing a solenoid:
http://60degreev6.com/forum/showthre...00-swap/page12

They did remove the transmission to do that, but it still would be easier to do in car. I'd rather remove one axle instead of two!



Plus if you know it's just a solenoid and you want to replace a solenoid, why buy a whole new (or used) transmission when you can just buy a solenoid? I even used a junkyard solenoid I paid $6.50 for, and it's been working for over a year. Yes on some cars you have to remove the transmission valve body to get to some of the solenoids, but I'd still rather do that then replace the whole thing. If you already know what's wrong with it, why not fix the problem when you are taking a chance on a used transmission that might not work.

[03glgold]

You also have to consider that with it in the car and it being a side access that you are almost asking for any dirt or other particles that you missed in cleaning to end up inside the transmission. In the time it takes to replace the solenoid you could be most of the way through installing a newer, lower mileage transmission. Any material I can find calls it an 8 hour job.