Nitrogen

[HazMatt24]

Anybody run their tires with Nitrogen? I heard an ad on the radio for a place that fills your tires with nitrogen and it reminded me of hearing that it is lighter than air. Just curious.

[[ion] C2]

It's lighter than air, and escapes less readily than air, so you're tires won't deflate as fast. Not much else to say there..

[cherrington17]

The air we breathe is mostly nitrogen... so i'd imagine it wouldn't make that much of a difference.

do they think filling your tires w/ N2 is going to make you car lighter or something?

[teflone]

Here we go again..


WASTE OF MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nitrogen is used ONLY because it is more stable than air for temperature difference, on the order of 1/10th of a psi to every 25..

The simple fact being, unless your a nascar driver, driving at 300 mph its useless, specially because most normal cars lose 1psi per month anyways.


Nitrogen is more stable because there is no water vapour disolved into it.

Air pressure fluctuates slightly in temperature changes when water vapour is disolved into it..

Nitrogen does not "escape" slower at all.. it will leave your tires at the same speed as regular air..

[strtrydr]

no difference that you will ever notice ... F-16's only use it to minimize the expansion effects of temperature and altitude. dont bother i have tried it and it does nothing different ... except cost more (if you pay for it ... lol)

[diablo]

Originally Posted by cherrington17

The air we breathe is mostly nitrogen... so i'd imagine it wouldn't make that much of a difference.

The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and the rest is small amounts of other gasses. Yes putting nitrous in your tires will make a nice difference (I do it), 1. Longer Tire Life –When it comes in contact with other materials, oxygen causes oxidation. Oxidation can make rubber brittle and cause it to lose tensile strength. In addition, at high temperatures and pressures, oxygen reacts and damages inner tire liners and belt packages; nitrogen does not.

2.Increased Safety – Under-inflated tires cause 90% of blowouts. Nitrogen provides more reliable pressure for reduced blowout potential.

3.Nitrogen in your tires maintains proper pressure, which keeps the recommended “contact patch” on the road longer and reduces rolling resistance, which translates to better fuel economy. In fact, properly inflated tires can improve your gas mileage by about 3.3 percent. That’s a savings no one would scoff at.

By reducing the percentage of oxygen, water vapor and other gases in your tires from 22% to 7% or lower, your tires will maintain proper pressure longer than if you use “plain old air.” For example, with 95% nitrogen in your tires, they retain optimal pressure three to four times longer.

[teflone]

Originally Posted by diablo

The air we breathe is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen and the rest is small amounts of other gasses. Yes putting nitrous in your tires will make a nice difference (I do it), 1. Longer Tire Life –When it comes in contact with other materials, oxygen causes oxidation. Oxidation can make rubber brittle and cause it to lose tensile strength. In addition, at high temperatures and pressures, oxygen reacts and damages inner tire liners and belt packages; nitrogen does not.

2.Increased Safety – Under-inflated tires cause 90% of blowouts. Nitrogen provides more reliable pressure for reduced blowout potential.

3.Nitrogen in your tires maintains proper pressure, which keeps the recommended “contact patch” on the road longer and reduces rolling resistance, which translates to better fuel economy. In fact, properly inflated tires can improve your gas mileage by about 3.3 percent. That’s a savings no one would scoff at.

utter BS

Specailly because of the simple fact that nitrogen is aggressive..

It promotes oxidization when the two are present..


This converstation is relative to

"If I throw a penny in the lake.. does the water level go up? "

[diablo]

Nitrogen in tires maintains proper pressure, keeps the recommended “contact patch” on the road longer and reduces rolling resistance. That translates to better fuel economy and fewer toxic emissions into our atmosphere.

But that’s not all. With more consistent pressure, your tires won’t wear as fast. Theoretically, if everyone used nitrogen we could decrease the demand for tires. Manufacturing fewer tires would decrease pressure on natural resources used in the process, lower toxic emissions coming from manufacturing plants, decrease shipping of tires and…well, you get the idea.

[diablo]

so, nitrogen ISN"T a waste of money

[teflone]

Originally Posted by diablo

Nitrogen in tires maintains proper pressure, keeps the recommended “contact patch” on the road longer and reduces rolling resistance. That translates to better fuel economy and fewer toxic emissions into our atmosphere.

But that’s not all. With more consistent pressure, your tires won’t wear as fast. Theoretically, if everyone used nitrogen we could decrease the demand for tires. Manufacturing fewer tires would decrease pressure on natural resources used in the process, lower toxic emissions coming from manufacturing plants, decrease shipping of tires and…well, you get the idea.

Your missing the point completely

With our cars..

ITS USELESS

Were not driving race cars, are tires are not even CLOSE to being designed or able to gain ANYTHING from nitrogen..

And our tires will STILL LOSE pressure REGARDLESS of what you put in it..

You'll save your tire wear better by filling your trunk up with helium ballons..
Or getting as much weight out of your car as possible..

Get it..?


Promoting nitrogen use is bordering on retardism and is well beyond the absurd

Specially because I have heard of people paying upto 100 dollars for it in all tires..

Im sorry but you have been sadly mislead..
Google it..

The first result you'll come up with is a billion people saying its a waste of time first off, and CERTAINLY a waste of money..

Now.. I will not debate the importance of tenths of a psi when you tell me your a nascar driver.

It has never been used to increase the wear of a tire.. ever..

its simply stable by a small percent that is ridiculous to care about for OUR cars..

[teflone]

Or wait..


I always fart in my car towards the back..

if I fart forwards I might slow my car down.. and lose milage

[diablo]

I had nitrogen in my alero (when I had it) and never had a problem, when I didn't have N02 in my tires, the tires deflated alot more (checked tires regularly) and started corosion on the rim, replced rims (a few months after N02 was available, I put it in) after that I noticed I ran longer on mytires and increased gas milage, and only paid $5 for N02 per tire (fair price).....so that means ALOT less time wasted checking F**king air pressre......IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE...people are jerkin you around if they're telling not to do it...I do it in my new car and WOW

[teflone]

Originally Posted by diablo

I had nitrogen in my alero (when I had it) and never had a problem, when I didn't have N02 in my tires, the tires deflated alot more (checked tires regularly) and started corosion on the rim, replced rims (a few months after N02 was available, I put it in) after that I noticed I ran longer on mytires and increased gas milage, and only paid $5 for N02 per tire (fair price).....so that means ALOT less time wasted checking F**king air pressre......IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE...people are jerkin you around if they're telling not to do it...I do it in my new car and WOW

A fool and his money soon part..

Im not going to debate it with you any longer..
Its simply all in your head..

But 5 a tire... LMAO

thats 20 bucks...

Shit, you know what nitrogen costs..?

It costs less then air..



Keep buying your bottled water.. its better for you..



But like I've always said..

Theres two things a man should never pay for..

Water.. and sex..

[diablo]

Originally Posted by teflone

But like I've always said..

Theres two things a man should never pay for..

Water.. and sex..

well the way you talk its obvious your payin for both

[antichrysler]

I've got nitrogen in mine. If you're up in Canada it's better because the tires don't lose as much pressure in the winter. I know on some Aleros the tire pressure sensor goes wonky. On my grandpas 99 we had to switch back to air.

[teflone]

Originally Posted by diablo

well the way you talk its obvious your payin for both

ohhh.. ouch.. that hurt..

I need therapy after that stab..

But since you asked..
I live in a mansion on the lake.. my name might as well be Hugh..

But you can call me by my pornstar name..

Joe Gonet


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Wait for it..

almost there..


Did ya finally get that one?

[cavaliers60]

lol seems like a pointless waste of money and time to me... If it's as good as you say it is, then why don't they promote it more, huh???? I think i'll stick to my free air..

[freakout]

Originally Posted by teflone

ohhh.. ouch.. that hurt..

I need therapy after that stab..

But since you asked..
I live in a mansion on the lake.. my name might as well be Hugh..

But you can call me by my pornstar name..

Joe Gonet


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Wait for it..

almost there..


Did ya finally get that one?

What makes u the expert u can type nitrogen in google? I used to do tires on transports and there is a noticeable difference in wear, casing and rim life. You can tell the difference in between the 2 as soon as u take the tire off the rim. But obviously u know best. If only I could figure out google.

[teflone]

Originally Posted by freakout

What makes u the expert u can type nitrogen in google? I used to do tires on transports and there is a noticeable difference in wear, casing and rim life. You can tell the difference in between the 2 as soon as u take the tire off the rim. But obviously u know best. If only I could figure out google.

Actually I would agree with you..

I forgot about large wheels..

With transports, I could actually fathom a diff..

Extreme usage, heat variences, and the biggie here..

SIZE..

But it all comes together as almost worth it because of the extremes it subjected to.. and the size makes it worth it..

Those tires are 3 if not four times the volume of a cars..

Cant relate the two..


Apples to toilet paper..


And since you asked.. Yes...I am an expert..

[freakout]

With the price of fuel/tires every little bit helps. My Alero, p/u and transport all ride on nitrogen. Just tell me what makes u an expert. I like the fact the rims don't corrode and lose air, but thats just me i'm funny.